Spectacular Phenomena In The Sky. What Is It?

reply to post by Wookiep

The exhaust trail can get pretty ratty.
Here's a launch from Vandenberg (one that worked)


Space shuttle:



Had to add this:
www.freqofnature.com...


[edit on 12/10/2009 by Phage]

I don't know what this is but if it's something dangerous I really hope it escaped Earth what I do know though is the LHC hit record energy levels last night 2.36 TeV collisions make of that what you will.

I'm not saying it's linked but it is suspicious.

I think the whole thing is quite a spectacular display, & earlier in the day when I first saw it in here I was wondering if MSM was going to pick it up here in Australia. Well, yes they did, & have declined to offer any explanation--covering themselves, I guess.

After watching the Utube uploads, & looking thru these threads, I've decided that its actually either an elaborate hoax, OR some type of "ART" performed by Uni students or simmilar, & they are waiting for a reaction from the public.


Anyway, it doesn't always have to be "unexplained phenomenon", there may be a logical explanation to come.

Will wait & see................

Is everyone ignoring the fact that there are over one million Norwegians standing catatonic outside in a full state of deep hypnosis?


[edit on 12/10/2009 by Jim Scott]

O.k. and if it WAS a missile launch from Russia, let's also look at something here. This isn't North Korea...

Russia has been launching successfully rockets into SPACE for years, so they fail a simple missile launch test?
We're not talking about 1940 here...
Hmm... does that make sense?

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Wookiep

 

The exhaust trail can get pretty ratty.
Here's a launch from Vandenberg (one that worked)


Space shuttle:



Had to add this:
www.freqofnature.com...


[edit on 12/10/2009 by Phage]

Your first image was interesting seeing how it did show a gap between one stage and another. I really wish we could see one that resembles the OP more conclusively, however. I think what we need to completely conclude this as a rocket, is an example of these 3 stages resembling exactly what we are seeing in the OP. (I'm not asking you to dig that up Phage, it's not your responsibility soley ) I'm confident, that if such a thing is out there, then ATS can do the job.

[edit on 10-12-2009 by Wookiep]

Okay, I have read through about 20 pages, I think I got enough to make a somewhat intelligent response.

Perhaps I am stupid but my biggest problem with the top theory (rocket) is this:

From my very first impression I have thought and still feel that I am seeing something projecting OUTWARD from this spiral leading down to the ground. I know the cloud formations on the horizon look like rocket trails, but could it be that the clouds were being 'pulled' towards the vortex reaching to the ground? Similar to what you see when a tornado is forming. The funnel comes down from the sky and creates a vortex on the ground which then reaches up towards the sky.

I think simple mechanics tells me that the narrowest point is the most recent and the widest the oldest. Also, in the one picture you can clearly see that the blue light encompasses the whole spiral, narrowing more and more as it reaches towards the ground....

This is just speculation, but to me it is the most obvious conclusion for the origination of the 'blue light'.

I will try to find some pictures of tornados being formed to show what I mean.

(no, I am not implying that it was some sort of freak tornado, but that if there was a vortex there it may react with the ground in a similar way)

[edit on 10-12-2009 by westcoast]

reply to post by Brainiac

They've been trying with this one for quite a while. This was the eighth failure out of 12 tests.
There are some unhappy people in Russia.
www.huffingtonpost.com...

Originally posted by judgedrewdy
WTF are you guys blind? look at the freakin video! its A WORMHOLE.... cmon its spining clockwise so that means its going out! I wish I knew which way the central spiral was spinning.

WORM
HOLE


seriously.. If I had a IR camera I bet I would see some sort of craft flying through there.


a rocket?! seriouslly? ... explain the video... how could that possibly happen.. oh and not to mention that the spiral arms are there before the hole expands so its not like it was able to explode 2x in the same place... cmon

Watch these two videos... If its a wormhole then its one heck of a kawinkadink that this keeps happening every time the Russian's test the same missile...



I can't get these two videos to post... so...

Here is the first link

and here is the second link


They are identical... If it was aliens or whatever it wouldn't keep happening to the Russian's during missile tests, this would be happening all over the world all the time... And we all know it is not... Or... Unless of course you want to believe the US is laughing its butt off as they continue to shoot the Russian's missiles down with some type of spiral ray-gun... but I seriously, seriously don't believe that at all, doubt it.


--Charles Marcello


[edit on 10-12-2009 by littlebunny]

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Wookiep

 

Had to add this:
www.freqofnature.com...


[edit on 12/10/2009 by Phage]

Thanks! There is clearly some chaos going on there.

OR, that'll teach those pesky Ruskies to launch over Norway. Norwegians just pull out the blue beam and zap 'em.

reply to post by Phage


yes that first image is the horizon reflecting off of the smoke trail. That explains the orange hue to the smoke at the beginning of the trail.

But what explains the blue luminescence at night?

Guys doesn't the fact that the spiral is always directly facing the camera mean that it was spherical?

Originally posted by mrkurns
Nobody seems to be mentioning that witnesses have described this as a "sphere" and a "glowing ball" and not flat. This also explains why the spiral appears to be directly facing the camera in every photo.

I don't think a rocket can account for a spherical spiral?

It can account for a spherical spiral better even than a flat spiral.

If you imagine that this launch came from a very long distance from the photos' vantage point, and that the rocket probably entered Earth's upper atmosphere or even space, you begin to see that the scale isn't a problem. If the rocket was a test of an ICBM, it would have had a fair amount of unspent fuel as it reached the upper atmosphere, because it still would have a long way to go. So it's guidance goes haywire somewhere close to the horizon in that photo that's been labeled above, it starts into a spiral but it is still moving along its trajectory. Meanwhile, a fuel leakage (or hell, even a condensation trail) begins, and as the rocket spirals onward through its ballistic arc, the cloud gets sprayed out and slowly continues to move outward from the rocket. This continues until the rocket finishes its current burn stage, or runs out of fuel, or explodes, at which point the light of the thruster vanishes, the cloud glows only from the light of the sun over the horizon, and the last new part of the spiral cloud slowly expand outward like the rest of it, resulting in the dark "hole."

The entire thing is most likely extremely three dimensional, but most of the photos taken are from near head on, and from a great distance from the rocket's origin, so the spirals appear to have all been in one plane.

Originally posted by mrkurns
Guys doesn't the fact that the spiral is always directly facing the camera mean that it was spherical?

No. But the fact that there are multiple pictures/videos indicating as such, I think we can say that it looked pretty spherical from many angles.

reply to post by mrkurns


No, it means the town where these pictures were taken was a very long way from the rocket's origin, so the distance between them wasn't great enough to change the perspective. Think parallax.

Originally posted by AshOnMyTomatoes

Originally posted by mrkurns
Nobody seems to be mentioning that witnesses have described this as a "sphere" and a "glowing ball" and not flat. This also explains why the spiral appears to be directly facing the camera in every photo.

I don't think a rocket can account for a spherical spiral?

It can account for a spherical spiral better even than a flat spiral.

If you imagine that this launch came from a very long distance from the photos' vantage point, and that the rocket probably entered Earth's upper atmosphere or even space, you begin to see that the scale isn't a problem. If the rocket was a test of an ICBM, it would have had a fair amount of unspent fuel as it reached the upper atmosphere, because it still would have a long way to go. So it's guidance goes haywire somewhere close to the horizon in that photo that's been labeled above, it starts into a spiral but it is still moving along its trajectory. Meanwhile, a fuel leakage (or hell, even a condensation trail) begins, and as the rocket spirals onward through its ballistic arc, the cloud gets sprayed out and slowly continues to move outward from the rocket. This continues until the rocket finishes its current burn stage, or runs out of fuel, or explodes, at which point the light of the thruster vanishes, the cloud glows only from the light of the sun over the horizon, and the last new part of the spiral cloud slowly expand outward like the rest of it, resulting in the dark "hole."

The entire thing is most likely extremely three dimensional, but most of the photos taken are from near head on, and from a great distance from the rocket's origin, so the spirals appear to have all been in one plane.

Well put

Ok, I'm sated with Rocketboom™ nonsense and am happy to have seen some particularly brilliant photographs today; so much so that I'll even throw one out for the kooks:

Within the city of Tromsø is a place called Dårlig Ulv Stranden. Now Dårlig Ulv Stranden was where the fictional character Doctor Who sealed a gap between Universes so he could say goodbye to his true love Rose.

The act of doing so was pointless because at some point Rose managed to get back across to her original universe. Her doing this splintered realities causing fact to become fiction and the imaginary to become possible.

Now all universes capable of doing so put a base-camp (or doorstop if you will) at that point on their Earths to prevent dilation of reality and invasions from the unknown. Torchwood did it in the Doctor's universe, a radical arm of the NWO known as The Pentaverate did it in ours disguising the place as a pizza restaurant.

Now another universe has a team known as Planetary who regularly play with their reality and by doing so have opened up every dimension possible and the base-camps (or door stops if you will) are now fighting to stop hoards of alternative realities from pouring in upon them.

It's only a matter of time (hours) until the great reaping will take place by having President Obama be possessed by the Anti-Christ and the Wraiths come and hunt us all down.

It's was prophesied by Hugo Rune during the creation of the first tradition, or an old charter, or something.

Grab your loved ones now and forget about work because Doomsday is here and it's here to stay!! You can't see the eyes of the demon, until him come callin'.

-m0r

*This is all completely true and you should take my word for it as being evidence. Seriously, this is the real deal believe me. Failing that though - go look up some of the things I said and see for yourself.

Originally posted by Wookiep

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Wookiep

 

Had to add this:
www.freqofnature.com...


[edit on 12/10/2009 by Phage]

Thanks! There is clearly some chaos going on there.

Yeah that's what I'm talking about. That's the trajectory i'd expect.

Blue Spiral Incident
This phenomena is very clean, it seems like something that would be created by something happening at a very high velocity.

reply to post by Brainiac

It's not really at night. It's at dawn. The missile was high enough to be in sunlight before the sun rose at the surface. It's also possible that there is an ionization effect on the burned fuel exhaust.