You tell me why unchild humans, should care about your children?

reply to post by IconoclasticTalamasca

I very much agree with the desire to understand your reasoning/mindset behind your current view. It does seem quite contradictory.


reply to post by deathpoet69

Were you more idealistic previously? Earlier in the year, my domestic partner and I had to deal with a miscarriage. We definitely understand your current view of the poor conduct of parents and children, but I hope that you will return to desiring children. Raise them to understand what you see and they will not manifest as much of our animal nature as is common in the world.

Idealism will be Realism when Ignorance is tended to.

[edit on 10/23/2009 by Dasher]

I am greatly offended by this and not just because I have two children of my own. OP, you should care about other people's children because those children are people just like you. Turning our backs on children is turning our backs on humanity and the future of humanity. I'm sorry that you feel the way that you do regarding children, but I'm sure that if you had children of your own and experienced the deep connection, blessing, pride, and realization of the miracle of just how fragile and precious that life is that you would feel differently. At least, I hope that you would.

If you are going to have a problem with people, have a problem with the adult parents. While it is true that there are parents who have no business breeding and passing their maladjustments down to children, there are also children who overcome and break the cycle of such learned behavior. I am one of those children, and I'm very proud of myself for having the strength to overcome such unbearable odds. I comfort myself in thinking that maybe that was the reason for my unfortunate childhood circumstances in the first place. If reincarnation is a reality, maybe I brought myself here in this time to fix the broken chain in my family tree. Of course, I can't know that for sure, but I take comfort in the fact that at least I'm trying to live honorably and passing stability, goodness, and positive values down to my children in the hopes that they turn out to be good people and good parents to their children (my descendants).

On that same token, those parents you judge were probably raised dysfunctionally themselves and are, unfortunately, passing that dysfunction down. Look at it this way, since children bother you so much, have you thought that maybe they're on your mind for a reason? It's entirely possible that your job this go around in your own life cycle is to be a mentor to a child who needs it. Please, for your own sake and the sake of humanity as a whole, help a child who you think needs it. You may be that child's only hope, and that may be your sole purpose for being here in the first place.


[edit on 23-10-2009 by gazerstar]

Reading through your entire post I don't see as much contradiction as other commentators. However, I am still curious as to how you have reached this point in your life. I understand why, in general, but I am more curious as to how. PM me if you'd like, no worries otherwise.

Poet

Your post fills me with Joy because obviously you are a loveless person and by nature you will eliminate that trait from the gene pool by being unable to love and never reproducing.

That being the DEFINITE result of your belief system why even bother to ask questions about it? It's not like it matters when you pass all that you are will vanish forever.

I've noticed how people with brats- I mean children like to inflict them on people who have none/ are single. These people are the ones who sit them behind you in buses, so they can kick the seat, next to you in restaurants, so they can fling food and scream their heads off. At amusement parks.... Just today, while I am trying to get a snack out of a vending machine, I am having to deal with some woman's kid. The kid's trying to take my change, take my food- and what does the stupid (woman) do? Doesn't even turn around: 'Don't do that, now!' The kid's barely 2. I could have grabbed him and been down the block and GONE before she'd have known it.

I find it completely intolerable. I try to ignore families as much as possible. I could have raised incredible children, but because the universe is unfair and stupid- I have no way to.

reply to post by deathpoet69


Huh? Dude you do realize that at point in time, lemme take a stab in the dark and say for at least 4 years, you WAS A CHILD!

So with your current line of thinking, at one point in time you was disgusted with yourself.

We protect children because they are children. If we don't look after kids who do you think is going to change our diapers when we get older? We may act like animals sometimes but all mammals look after their children chief they are our future plain and simple.

Sarcasm, swift judgment, and condemnation do nothing to help in this case.

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So what you're really saying is you're angry because someone told you what to do, and, because your parents/guardians were mean you would prefer to not deal with the whole issue?

I could be wrong, obviously, so let's try again.

You truly don't like children for some reason. You do know that life continues on this planet because people have children, and raise them safely, but you don't want to be involved yet. Fair enough - don't. How many people actually expect you to take care of their children!??

I sure as HELL wouldn't let you anywhere near my child until you grow up a little more.

Several people have had what to say in regards to my posts on this subject.

I have one thing to say in return.

A healthy young person who rides the bus or in any other aspect of life that can not make room or accept a Woman who has given birth and her children is a disgusting human being.

The poster above admits to sitting on the bus eating and complains about a mom and a 4 yr old?

Like the bus is there for you to put your feet up, have a sandwich and get to your valuable 7.00 an hr life? WALK like a healthy young adult if you don't like it, you or the OP obviously have ZERO respect for your own mothers if you can't respect another mother.

The concept of feeling like your position in life is above a child's and that a child should make room for you? This shows exactly... to a T why America is falling apart.

ZERO Morality

Zero Compassion

A complete sense of entitlement when in reality your semi worthless in action... The world makes Fun of us for being Obese and Teenagers and young adults defend their Right LOL to sit on a bus and Eat, break the rules, take up space rather than walk... and claim that MOM and her CHILD should make way for their lazy fat arse?

Anyone who agrees with this... deserves the Economic condition their life is in, your on the Bus for a REASON and it's yourself.

When you get no SS when your old and you have no kids to support you it will be deserved because you were raised and became slimy Emo sissies afraid to walk and too disrespectful to even make way for WOMEN and CHILDREN in Life and it's pathetic and can only bring pathetic results.

There is ONE singular obvious reason for a complete lack of morals, zero desire to contribute in a meaningful way and a selfishness that runs this deep... Having parents yourself who obviously completely failed at the job

PEDOPHOBIA - is the fear of infants, children, or the time of life known as childhood.
Pedo- comes for the Greek word for child; -phobia is the Greek word for fear. It is related to other age-focused fears, including ephebiphobia, the fear of youth, and gerontophobia, the fear of the elderly.
Outcomes of pedophobia include adultism, which is placing the interests of adults before those of young people, and by extension, ageism, which is any discrimination against any person because of their age.

Scientific analysis
The fear of children has been diagnosed and treated by psychiatrists, with studies examining the effects of multiple forms of treatment

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Wow. I had no idea that this thread would lead me to this. I didn't know that PEDOPHOBIA even existed or even that it's sufferers could be treated.
I learn something new everyday. Hopefully O.P, you have to?

OP.... I am disappointed. You haven't commented since your thread from Feb was brought up....

But, I am in complete agreement with those that just don't give a damn about other people's offspring. They are disgusting. They are completely aggrivating on so many levels. One thing that makes me twitch in anger is people in public... The ones that cannot even control their screaming offspring long enough for a shopping trip. I never understood why parents with such uncontrollable and loud offspring want nothing more than to inflict their bundles of hell upon everyone else.

The only exception is mine. I don't expect anyone else to put up with mine... why do others get off on it? To be honest, mine has come to be everything to me. What really makes me feel sick is other people's obsession of my little one. I never try and dictate how anyone should parent or dress their offspring. Why do "moms" think I want anything to do with them, or their opinion? I don't want anything to do with THEIR offspring, much less dictate parenting on anyone.

Bah. The whole thing just makes me sick. I don't understand people thinking I want anything to do with their offspring, or think I want them obsessed with mine.

I really think that the kidless people would be great parents if they had one of their own. But a bit of reality -- Having your own won't make you suddenly develop a new love for everyone else's.

I'll never understand people who gather around together, dictating to each other how to raise their kids.

People think the status of "MOM" or "DAD" is so holy and special. It doesn't take a special person to breed. It takes a special person to be responsible for their own offspring, and still continue to respect other people around them.

I will also never understand the responses of "YOU WERE A KID ONCE".

Or "YOUR PARENTS CARED ENOUGH TO HAVE YOU".

B.S. response. Our parents wanted children, wanted to raise them. True, we would not be here without them. But we respect that it was their CHOICE to raise kids. You can't force people not into kids, to want or like them, just because they themselves were wanted children.

Same old arguments from people who cannot fathom the possibility that not everyone around them is obsessedly in love with the result of their drunken accident or ripped condom.

When you want and love your own child, you can love and nurture it while respecting that others around you don't feel the same.

thank you for all your comments, i am going to give a very good explanation for you all right now on my opinons, i liked how the parents are reacting because that's what i want because i can show the world what the parents are like today and they DON'T deserve children, good people of this world who havent or don't have children should have children however for some reason, we are not given children and that is why your children are taken away that is why your children are dieing in the streets, because you as parents are suffering and so you should be because your all selfish and bitter.