Independent Investigation Into Pentagon Attack Yields Alarming Information

reply to post by mmiichael

Originally posted by mmiichael

Originally posted by Jezus
I'm not exactly sure what happened and I'm not claiming anything happened but I have never seen any evidence for the official story...

This thread is a perfect example...lots of semantics and rhetoric but no hard evidence for any claims.

The difference between me and you is I admit I don't know what happened.

All I know that there are no videos that show a plane and that none of the photos look like any other photos of plane crashes...

Unlike in New York, there weren't thousands around to record the Pentagon crash and immediate aftermath. As the US rightfully does not want to supply potential enemies with their security vulnerabilities or clues on 'how to get it right next time' strategic documentation is not released to the public.

But it is without any question Flight 77 took off at 8:20 with passengers and crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37.

michael, don't you see how many people here have questioned that version of events? jthomas, atleast, has the good sense to rarely if ever claim to have proof for his assertions, but by saying "without any question", you are essentially implying you have proof. Do you?

Originally posted by mmiichael
A warehouse of evidence, recordings, testimony - largely from the general public - all demonstrate that clearly and unambiguously.

Nothing beyond speculation and attempts at manipulating anecdotal information to indicate otherwise have emerged in 8 years.

I strongly disagree with the above. Perhaps you'd like to go over some of this alleged evidence?

Originally posted by Jezus
The difference between me and you is I admit I don't know what happened.

All I know that there are no videos that show a plane and that none of the photos look like any other photos of plane crashes...

Originally posted by mmiichael
But it is without any question Flight 77 took off at 8:20 with passengers and crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37. A warehouse of evidence, recordings, testimony - largely from the general public - all demonstrate that clearly and unambiguously.

Without any question?

Saying it doesn't make it true..

Pretending the truth movement comes from nothing is delusional...

There are anomalies and contradictions in the official story.

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I guess when you can't support your claims that the light pole hit the taxi and that I'm a CIT/P4T drone, the best that you can do is to delete your posts.

Still no retraction for either claim, pteridine?

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"You are like a bad headache. STR is for tissue samples that have been exposed to heat or stress. The Pentagon crash scene was hot enough to "blow a hole in the wall with just the resulting fireball." The crash scene also had no tissue samples. You show me one tooth, one fingernail that was found. Microscopic DNA samples will not survive that kind of heat the completely destroys metal, brick, and almost 70 people. STR is real handy, sometimes."
----The heat completely destroyed metal, brick, and almost 70 people? You must be reading those truther sites again. Strange that there are photographs of the bodies that you say were completely destroyed that were identified by the DNA that you say was also completely destroyed. STR is exactly for the type of disaster at the Pentagon. You are 90% bluff, lillydale.

Originally posted by scott3x
don't you see how many people here have questioned that version of events? jthomas, atleast, has the good sense to rarely if ever claim to have proof for his assertions, but by saying "without any question", you are essentially implying you have proof. Do you?

Originally posted by mmiichael
A warehouse of evidence, recordings, testimony - largely from the general public - all demonstrate that clearly and unambiguously.

Nothing beyond speculation and attempts at manipulating anecdotal information to indicate otherwise have emerged in 8 years.

I strongly disagree with the above. Perhaps you'd like to go over some of this alleged evidence?

On this board alone there are tens of thousands of posts providing specifics of the Pentagon crash. Many links have been provided on this thread. There are thousands of relaible sources on the Internet. Few things in history have been reconstructed in such detail.

If people are of the mind to dismiss everything that has documented, then nothing will convince them. You need convincing, you can phone any of a dozen labs that analyzed the remains and DNA recovered and probably talk to an actual person who worked on it.

But if someone wants to accept the Internet circulating disinformation and totally unfounded speculations out there, nothing I say will dissuade them.

If you really are concerned, dip into the mass of data on this event and then provide your personal list of discrepancies. If you really think there's some massive cover-up involving thousands of people, government and private citizens, colluding on mass murder and withholding evidence, you have to show something tangible that substantiates your claim.


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When do you plan to contribute to the thread? Do you have enough evidence to postulate a theory yet or are you a slow reader?

Here, mmiichael wants us to believe that there were not thousands of people involved at the Pentagon and that the US does not want to release documentation.

Originally posted by mmiichael
Unlike in New York, there weren't thousands around to record the Pentagon crash and immediate aftermath. As the US rightfully does not want to supply potential enemies with their security vulnerabilities or clues on 'how to get it right next time' strategic documentation is not released to the public.

Here, mmiichael wants us to believe that there were thousands of people involved at the Pentagon and that the US has produced excessive amounts of documentation.

Originally posted by mmiichael
There are thousands of relaible sources on the Internet. Few things in history have been reconstructed in such detail.

If you really think there's some massive cover-up involving thousands of people, government and private citizens, colluding on mass murder and withholding evidence, you have to show something tangible that substantiates your claim.

The difference between mmiichael's time stamps on both posts is 50 minutes.

That's right - it took mmiichael 50 minutes to contradict himself with two posts taking opposing views.

Originally posted by pteridine
When do you plan to contribute to the thread? Do you have enough evidence to postulate a theory yet or are you a slow reader?

I've contributed to this thread by showing the casual reader that you are not capable of supporting your claims.

You also made a false statement about me, that I am a CIT/P4T drone, and you have not retracted it.

Casual readers to the thread have seen how your word is worthless, since you have been schooled about McGraw after getting it all terribly wrong and you have provided no proof that the light pole hit the taxi.

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Originally posted by tezzajw
Here, mmiichael wants us to believe that there were not thousands of people involved at the Pentagon and that the US does not want to release documentation.

That's right - it took mmiichael 50 minutes to contradict himself with two posts taking opposing views.

Before you start on your accusations, where is your shred of proof Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon with passengers in it?

Are you some mouthpiece for disinformation agents and video salesmen?

This board doesn't need more mindless trolls desperate for attention?



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Originally posted by mmiichael
Don't you just hate mindless trolls desperate for any attention?

mmiichael, perhaps you would like to explain to the casual readers of this thread why you chose to contradict yourself, with two opposing posts, in the space of 50 minutes?

I'm sure lots of people would enjoy reading your 'explanation' about the 'thousands' of people at the Pentagon... no, wait you typed that there weren't 'thousands'... yes, wait... you typed that there were 'thousands'...

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Very weak, tezza....your attempt at diminishing mmichael up there.

I'm am quite certain the majority of people who read his posts understood the context of he remarks, and the intent of his description of event re: the way Pentagon was documented versus United 175 in NYC....

Your cut-n-paste attack jobby-job smells a little desperate...or else you truly misunderstood, in a hasty read?? No, doubt that very much. The effort required to format that post shows your intent, loud and clear.....

Originally posted by weedwhacker
Very weak, tezza....your attempt at diminishing mmichael up there.

mmiichael diminished himself, weedwhacker. I used his words in his direct quotes.

Two clearly opposing posts within 50 minutes of each other. Go figure...

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by weedwhacker
Very weak, tezza....your attempt at diminishing mmichael up there.

mmiichael diminished himself, weedwhacker. I used his words in his direct quotes.

Two clearly opposing posts within 50 minutes of each other. Go figure...

You're not smart enough to differentiate analogies. Taking points out of context is one of the pathetic stratagems people like yourself are forced to rely on.

If anything you further the foaming-at-the-mouth stereotype of hard core Truthers.


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Originally posted by mmiichael
You're not smart enough to differentiate analogies.

A smart person would support their claim that passenger bodies were found strapped to airline seats. You haven't managed to support your claim that passenger bodies were found strapped to airline seats yet, mmiichael.

A smart person would not type two opposing posts, within 50 minutes of each other.

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It is refreshing to finally receive an honest open-minded post from pteridine.

Good job.

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NOT my job to defend him....but I can see the difference in the two posts, and what he was saying. Can't you?

I'll tell you, to make it easier.

The EVENT (actual airplane impact) at the Pentagon was witnessed by FEWER people than the EVENT (actual airplane impact) in NYC of United 175...do you not see why, yet?

THEN....new discussion....fast-forward to LATER that day, and for the weeks and months afterward....THOUSANDS of people were involved in THAT aspect.

You aren't stupid...but you enjoy playing dumb, so you can fool others??? Is that it???

Intentionally behaving that way is disgusting. It is dishonest. It is not funny. Some have likened it to trolling....

Originally posted by weedwhacker
NOT my job to defend him....

Then don't.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
Intentionally behaving that way is disgusting. It is dishonest. It is not funny. Some have likened it to trolling....

I agree. Typing two opposing posts within 50 minutes of each other isn't the best thing to do on a public forum.

mmiichael has to be responsible for his own posts. Maybe he'll learn from it.

pteridine claims that I contribute nothing to the thread, yet here I am schooling some official government story believers by pointing out their logical errors.

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by mmiichael
You're not smart enough to differentiate analogies.

A smart person would support their claim that passenger bodies were found strapped to airline seats. You haven't managed to support your claim that passenger bodies were found strapped to airline seats yet, mmiichael.

A smart person would not type two opposing posts, within 50 minutes of each other.

Information was provided by weedwhacker on this. I commend him for his knowledge and his admirable restraint in communicating with you.

You make no effort to absorb information, data, and insights posted. Just constantly looking for opportunities to find what you consider discrepancies.

I really don't have to say what you are. It's apparent to those reading your comments, if not to yourself.


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Originally posted by mmiichael
Information was provided by weedwhacker on this. I commend him for his knowledge and his admirable restraint in communicating with you.

Point me to where weedwhacker proved your claim that passenger bodies were found strapped to airline seats, please? I haven't seen it.

Why did you make the claim if you had to rely on weedwhacker proving it for you?