Independent Investigation Into Pentagon Attack Yields Alarming Information

reply to post by Lillydale


You said "there were no remains in this crash."

Prove it.

Originally posted by tezzajw
mmichael, before you concern yourself with the CIT scam, you better address your own scam.

On page 21 of this thread, you made a claim that passenger bodies were found strapped to airline seats.

You have not proven this true.

Please do so, or issue your retraction.

Get a life.

Links were provided with summary information on the findings of the clean-up and forensic personnel. Names of labs and organizations that dealt with the deceased are there. Check them out. You can inform all those people you think there were no passenger bodies and that they are part of the BIG cover-up.

They won't be as willing to humour you as contributors here have to.

For starter - where is your detailed explanation and evidence of what happened between the plane and passengers taking off at 8:20 and crashing at 9:37? You can't answer that, you have nothing to talk about. Fantasies not accepted.

At times the desperation to cling to any hope of maintaining these self-deceptions can be funny. At other times it is just plain disturbing.


Mike



[edit on 27-9-2009 by mmiichael]

Originally posted by pteridine
This makes lamp post collision semantics moot. Even you might be able to figure that out.

Casual readers, again pteridine refuses to support his claim that the light pole hit the taxi.

He continues to try and avoid, deflect and spin his way out of his responsibility to support his claims.

Originally posted by mmiichael
You can inform all those people you think there were no passenger bodies and that they are part of the BIG cover-up.

mmiichael, like other people in this thread I am waiting for you to support your specific claim that there were passenger bodies found strapped to airline seats.

You have not done this.

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by mmiichael
You can inform all those people you think there were no passenger bodies and that they are part of the BIG cover-up.

mmiichael, like other people in this thread I am waiting for you to support your specific claim that there were passenger bodies found strapped to airline seats.

You have not done this.

Casual readers will note.

You just can't read. All you know how to do is bash away incessantly asking the same questions for which there are answers when and if you choose to look for them.

When I read your highly predictable and transparent avoidance posts I'm torn between amusement, irritation and sadness.

I often think the US government developed a computer program to flood the Internet with absurd claims and idiotic questions on 9/11 to deflect from the public seriously examining some very real issues.


M





[edit on 27-9-2009 by mmiichael]

Originally posted by mmiichael
You just can't read. All you know how to do is bash away incessantly asking the same questions for which there are answers when and if you choose to look for them.

Please provide your proof that your claim that passenger bodies were found strapped to seats is true.

While you're at it, you might as well show me where pteridine's claim that the light pole hit the taxi is true.

I've yet to read either of you prove these claims. Therefore, I have to bash away at the both of you, so neither of you forget your responsibility to prove your claims.

Originally posted by tezzajw
Please provide your proof that your claim that passenger bodies were found strapped to seats is true.

While you're at it, you might as well show me where pteridine's claim that the light pole hit the taxi is true.

I've yet to read either of you prove these claims. Therefore, I have to bash away at the both of you, so neither of you forget your responsibility to prove your claims.

You really are a computer program. Ignore everything. Just repeat the same requests hoping it will somehow validate your inability to cope with reality.

Sources for the information you're looking for have been supplied a dozen times here.

Because you're incapable of comprehension or effort is only your problem.

I recommend shutting off your computer and going for a long walk. It might help you think clearly.


M

reply to post by mmiichael


Mike, thats because you said bodies were found strapped to seats. You never proved this, me and another person posted pictures and links to bodies found at the crash site. Even you provided a link to pictures, not a single one was straped to the seats. So unless you can prove this, you guys are just going to go in circles and nothing will have mattered. You expect the "truthers" to prove everything they say, when you can't even back up your claim. JUST BACK UP YOUR CLAIM!

[edit on 9/27/2009 by TheAntiHero420]

Originally posted by mmiichael
When I read your highly predictable and transparent avoidance posts I'm torn between amusement, irritation and sadness.

That being said, I am also waiting for the proof you have of passengers strapped into seats. You would not be guilty of using the same transparent avoidance techniques now would you?

reply to post by Lillydale


You said "there were no remains in this crash." You have not shown how you know that there were no remains. You have not even shown an eyewitness statement saying "there were no remains of passengers in this crash."
You have also not shown how you know that the fire would have destroyed all DNA evidence. It might be more durable than you are guessing it is.

You should hold yourself to your own high standards as an example to us all.

reply to post by mappam


What hit the pentagon was an A3 Sky Warrior dressed up to look like an AA plane. Google A3 Sky Warrior for pictures. It's a large fighter plane but it has the `look` of a passenger plane. A person on the ground, looking up at that plane, flying over you at hundreds of miles an hour, would be hard-pressed to tell how large it was. If you look closely at the pentagon pictures and the surrounding debris, you'll see a portion of a cockpit window. The window is identical to what is on an A3 Sky Warrior. This spook plane was painted and constructed on a Colorado military base. Several military witnesses have told their story about seeing Raytheon military contractors painting an A3 to look like an AA plane. These same Raytheon contractors died on 9/11 (see passenger manifest).

Originally posted by amance
reply to post by mappam

 

What hit the pentagon was an A3 Sky Warrior dressed up to look like an AA plane. Google A3 Sky Warrior for pictures. It's a large fighter plane but it has the `look` of a passenger plane. A person on the ground, looking up at that plane, flying over you at hundreds of miles an hour, would be hard-pressed to tell how large it was. If you look closely at the pentagon pictures and the surrounding debris, you'll see a portion of a cockpit window. The window is identical to what is on an A3 Sky Warrior. This spook plane was painted and constructed on a Colorado military base. Several military witnesses have told their story about seeing Raytheon military contractors painting an A3 to look like an AA plane. These same Raytheon contractors died on 9/11 (see passenger manifest).

Thats kool man, think you could post some links for me?

Originally posted by mmiichael
Sources for the information you're looking for have been supplied a dozen times here.

No, mmiichael. You have not proven your claim that there were passenger bodies found strapped to airline seats.

You have failed.

reply to post by TheAntiHero420

www.usatoday.com...
WASHINGTON — On Tuesday, Army Staff Sgt. Mark Williams witnessed a combat zone for the first time in his 11 years of service. He never imagined it would be inside the Pentagon. One of the first recovery personnel to enter the crippled headquarters building after a hijacked Boeing 757 smashed into it, the urban search-and-rescue specialist found a gruesome sight. "If anyone has ever burned a pot roast, they'll know what the victims looked like," Williams, 30, said Thursday after another 12-hour shift of searching for 190 bodies — those of 126 missing Pentagon personnel and the 64 aboard the doomed jetliner.....
When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him....

reply to post by amance


The A-3 was a carrier based bomber.
It has a bubble cockpit, is much smaller than a 757, has a refueling stinger, and no passenger windows. It just doesn't look like a passenger jet.

Originally posted by TheAntiHero420

Mike, thats because you said bodies were found strapped to seats. You never proved this, me and another person posted pictures and links to bodies found at the crash site. Even you provided a link to pictures, not a single one was straped to the seats. So unless you can prove this, you guys are just going to go in circles and nothing will have mattered. You expect the "truthers" to prove everything they say, when you can't even back up your claim. JUST BACK UP YOUR CLAIM!

WHAT!!! WHAT!!!

Someone has to prove to a Truthers anything they question as if this is a trial. You haven't supplied a photo of the passengers on Flight 77 anywhere else than in the Pentagon wreckage. Where are your pictures? I repeat, where are your pictures?

This one looks like a burnt to a crisp body in a seat

netdet.ninjasquad.org...

You want more, you will actually have to go through this thread for the links of the sources and contact them.

Truthers have trotted out this pathetic line of argument of no pictures of passengers as it offers them a glimmer of hope they're not totally out to lunch. Well you can forget it.

Ordinary sane people have cumulatively provided credible eyewitness testimony. DNA evidence confirmed the same passengers who left on the flight ended up in the wreckage. Nothing conflicts with that except lunatic fringe droppings.

Either you can provide solid evidence and a detailed methodology for the plane with passengers disappearing from the radar and another looking just like it crashing into the Pentagon - or you're just throwing around fantasies.

reply to post by pteridine


Thanks pterdine, star for you, not to sound bitter but you should have posted that about 30 pages ago lol. I wonder if the journalist was a witness to the crash, I seem to remember there being a handful of witnesses from USA today.

[edit on 9/27/2009 by TheAntiHero420]

reply to post by mmiichael


Ok Mike, the man(?) does appear to be sitting, but the thing he is sitting on is clearly not a seat from an airplane. And I did post a link to that picture. Some lunch sounds great, you buying or no?lol Have you seen me make any claims on my theory of what happened? I don't know what happened, but I know there is some that does, s# it could even be you. On that note I do claim not to believe the Official story, because of its contradictions. Even you must have realized some of them.



[edit on 9/27/2009 by TheAntiHero420]

Originally posted by amance
reply to post by mappam

 

What hit the pentagon was an A3 Sky Warrior dressed up to look like an AA plane. Google A3 Sky Warrior for pictures. It's a large fighter plane but it has the `look` of a passenger plane. A person on the ground, looking up at that plane, flying over you at hundreds of miles an hour, would be hard-pressed to tell how large it was. If you look closely at the pentagon pictures and the surrounding debris, you'll see a portion of a cockpit window. The window is identical to what is on an A3 Sky Warrior. This spook plane was painted and constructed on a Colorado military base. Several military witnesses have told their story about seeing Raytheon military contractors painting an A3 to look like an AA plane. These same Raytheon contractors died on 9/11 (see passenger manifest).

Very Interesting...I have not investigated this before...
Do you have a link and/or source to point me in the right direction?

Originally posted by TheAntiHero420

Ok Mike, the man(?) does appear to be sitting, but the thing he is sitting on is clearly not a seat from an airplane. And I did post a link to that picture. Some lunch sounds great, you buying or no?lol Have you seen me make any claims on my theory of what happened? I don't know what happened, but I know there is some that does, s# it could even be you. On that note I do claim not to believe the Official story, because of its contradictions. Even you must have realized some of them.

We can do lunch poring over those pictures of bodies and parts. My treat.

At least you admit not knowing everything. A solid indication you're capable of learning.

This Official Story is another Truther invention. The same publishers have put out stuff based on government sources and wild conspiracy pieces.

Yes, there are some pretty terrible things behind the scenes of 9/11. Serious independent journalists have gone to great lengths to uncover them. The information is there if you're looking for it.

But no one has come up with anything substantial that seriously conflicts with the basic events of the morning of 9/11. 4 planes were hijacked and willfully crashed killing all onboard.

Along with warehouses of evidence, we have the testimony of ordinary people and a few confessions of active participants. What we know has been compiled from hundreds of sources in a dozen countries.

Those in the admin and intelligence agencies allowed it to happen through complicity or gross negligence need to be brought to justice for their crimes.

But the inescapable fact remains, there was a massive attack on American civilians planned and successfully executed by Muslim terrorists. When some fail to address this and instead try to blame their own government for this, it only makes these people look foolish. It also gives a clear message to those who want to cause destruction and kill innocent people that they can do whatever they want without fear of suffering consequences.

Mike