None of you have ever seen an extraterrestrial object.

Originally posted by aceace
You should take the time to read about Adm. Byrds adventures in the Antarctic. There might be some answers for you there and why they went there.

So let me get this straight here. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I've actually read up on Admiral Byrd, and your statement here astounds me...

Do you mean to say that you believe that there is an enormous hole at both the North and South Pole, with entrances into the 'underground world' of Hollow Earth Theory?

Because Admiral Byrd's claims (anyone who's seen a movie about the 'Journey to the Center of the Earth' has a vague feel for the general plotline...) are in stark contrast with easily obtained evidence (like satellite photography of Earth).

To suggest such a theory, and to dismiss clear evidence that precludes that theory from being correct, well friend, that's not the best policy here at ATS.

At any rate, I just wanted to give you an opportunity to clarify your remarks. It's possible I'm reading you wrong, and that there is simply just some overall 'life lesson' we were supposed to draw from Byrd's journeys or something...

Please do expand on this, and explain to us how Admiral Byrd's claims in any way should be relevant to this thread's topic matter...

I'm to curious now not to ask...

-WFA

Originally posted by seabhac-rua
reply to post by soul of integrity

 

Am I right in saying that you believe that somebody from somewhere else shaped the coastlines of N & S America to resemble an ape?

That's a theory that I've never come across before.

What about errosion, continental drift etc. I mean you can see shapes of whatever you like in clouds if you try, does that mean that there's some kind of intelligence behind cloud formation? ?

you ask me:
am i right in saying that you believe that somebody from somewhere else shaped the coastlines of N & S America to resemble an ape?

my answer is that the entire coastline from alaska to the southern tip of south america does resemble the profile of the face of a primate .... as for coming to the conclusion whether i believe somebody from somewhere else shaped this, well who is offering to explain it? who is given credit for it, and who is taking credit for it?

if it is a coincidence that thousands of miles of earth's shoreline so closely resembles a primate, tne dominant species on earth, then what are the odds of this being done devoid of intelligent intervention?

you say:
What about errosion, continental drift etc. I mean you can see shapes of whatever you like in clouds if you try, does that mean that there's some kind of intelligence behind cloud formation?

to respond to this i say this:

when crop circles are called crop circles no one argues with these two facts because there are 2 undeniable facts:
1) they are circles
2) they are located in crops

my deductive skills are the same here.
1) the dominant intelligence on earth seems to be the primates
2) on a flat world map (such as the daily show's backdrop) the entire coastline of both south and north america resembles a primate.

which brings me to the question i have:
what is the statistical probability of thousands of miles of shoreline representing the profile of the dominant intelligence on earth being there at all, without any intelligent intervention?

what are those odds?
what variables does one plug into what equasion to figure it out?

[edit on 28-8-2009 by soul of integrity]

reply to post by soul of integrity


"if it is a coincidence that thousands of miles of earth's shoreline so closely resembles a primate, tne dominant species on earth, then what are the odds of this being done devoid of intelligent intervention?"

The odds are stacked aginst you i'm afraid, I dont even see what you're talking about, I cant see a primate there at all, sorry.

The coastline of any country is a battle ground between the sea and land, and is constantly undergoing change. We can see through geology that eg. N America and northern Europe were once the same place(continental drift etc.) and the two continents of S America and Africa fit relatively snugly together.

I dont think that any outside influence is involved, and if there was then you see a primate and i dont, so they wasted their time if you ask me.


[edit on 29-8-2009 by seabhac-rua]

Originally posted by seabhac-rua
reply to post by soul of integrity

 

The odds are stacked aginst you i'm afraid, I dont even see what you're talking about, I cant see a primate there at all, sorry.

really? you can't see it? look at the world map behind jon stewart on the daily show on comedy central .... and you can't see the pacific ocean looks like a gorilla or chimp looking eastward????

no one here sees it?

anyone?????

i'll come back in another 3 or 4 years to see if anything has evolved about ufos/aliens. Quite frankly this is a waste of time watching blurry pictures.

I've seen a ufo, it's out of space alien crafts! (read crap)

Blahblahblahblah yeah yeah
Blahblahblah ive seen it, yeah yeah blahblahblah

sigh.

Originally posted by Conan The Usurper
i'll come back in another 3 or 4 years to see if anything has evolved about ufos/aliens. Quite frankly this is a waste of time watching blurry pictures.

.....

Blahblahblah ive seen it, yeah yeah blahblahblah

sigh.

bye for now. looking forward to seeing you in 3 to 4 years. maybe you'll be more mature and open minded to facts.

[edit on 29-8-2009 by soul of integrity]

reply to post by aceace



I've never seen anyone from the government or in a position of authority represent UFO's as an Alien threat? I'm sure most of us who are interested are driven by curiosity and a knowledge that it is impossible that there is no other sentient life in the entire Universe.

I do think its entirely possible with the evidence we have that most if not all UFO's are just secret military craft. Of course I don't know because they are "Unknown".

I don't think I see any proof that the government is behind any fear people may have. We see people who are prone to paranoia posting their speculation, but that is about it.

Do you have any examples of the government doing anything but denying? Any examples you can link to of them trying to scare us with an Alien threat?

[edit on 8/29/2009 by Blaine91555]

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by aceace

 

I've never seen anyone from the government or in a position of authority represent UFO's as an Alien threat?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by soul of integrity


I'm aware of all those. I still don't see anyone representing the government saying that UFO's or Aliens are an imminent threat. Could you point out one, I don't see any.

you guys are really dumb

he's just saying how do you know a ufo is an alien, not something else.

not saying that ufo's dont exist.

i had to quit readin this thread cos no one had a clue what he meant

and for that matter, i agree. its silly and childish to assume ufo's are aliens. although i think it is a possibility.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by soul of integrity

 

I'm aware of all those. I still don't see anyone representing the government saying that UFO's or Aliens are an imminent threat. Could you point out one, I don't see any.

sure can. it was among the hundreds that esoteric teacher (my previous screen name) listed:


"I think about how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And I ask you, does not this threat alread exsist?"
--President Ronald Reagen UN address

this quote was from president reagan while he was president in the 80's, and addressing the united nations, he was clearly someone in your words:

representing the government saying that UFO's or Aliens are an imminent threat

[edit on 30-8-2009 by soul of integrity]

mr. average here,look its obvious the government knows way more than they let on.i didn't really believe until one night i was out fishing alone,and observed a massive disc [2km dia.],quitely buzzing over my head and moving at 20 knots/1000 feet above me . it blocked out the sky
for 20 minutes.displaying 12 red lights underneath in 4 triangles.along
with the full starship look. so until you see something that awesome,
i say we might be in for contact anytime soon?

Originally posted by aceace
The moon and stars don't count

Claim: None of you have ever seen an extra-terrestrial object.

Fact: Comets are extra-terrestrial.

Fact: Millions of people have seen them.

Conclusion: This thread is dumb.

[edit on 10-9-2009 by NightVision]

reply to post by NightVision


I believe the implied intent was to suggest a non-naturally occurring object. But thanks for advancing the topic, that was most enlightening.

Originally posted by MrDesolate
reply to post by NightVision

 

I believe the implied intent was to suggest a non-naturally occurring object. But thanks for advancing the topic, that was most enlightening.

I respectfully disagree based on the way the thread title was worded. The implied intent was to start up a heated debate based on an old tired, and weak argument. An ATS classic alarmist post based on a position of thought that few legs to stand on in the weight of contradictory evidence. The 'intent' was to gain attention';not to present all the factual data.

I have given this thread too much respect my even responding to it.

ummm yeah ok this post just makes no sense.

how do you explain the MILLIONsS (including myself) of people who have been abducted and had similar experiences?

no, it isnt dreaming. that theory just makes me laugh all the time.

no, it isnt some government operation.

this is coming from someone who has been abducted and knows firsthand that this has nothing to do with the government. its common sense if you have experienced it.

reply to post by Blaine91555


Actually, in comercial aviation, UFOs are considered a threat.

Being the FAA and the JAA associated/representing the governaments, I would assume that they consider UFOs a threat.

I wouldn't put that in the area of "governament acting in favor of our fears", but they are a threat, being a technological threat (EMP disruptions for example) or a psychological one...

There are accounts of pilots taking very dangerous maneuvers to avoid mirages, natural phenomena, ballons or that small portion of cases that are really UFO's.

They many not be a threat that make you say "THEY ARE GOING TO SHOT AT US!", but they can lead or cause dangerous situations, and they are taken seriously, since you can *possibly* be grounded for not reporting a UFO.

[edit on 10/9/09 by Tifozi]

Originally posted by calihan_12
ummm yeah ok this post just makes no sense.

how do you explain the MILLIONsS (including myself) of people who have been abducted and had similar experiences?

no, it isnt dreaming. that theory just makes me laugh all the time.

no, it isnt some government operation.

this is coming from someone who has been abducted and knows firsthand that this has nothing to do with the government. its common sense if you have experienced it.

I think the reason you are laughing all the time is because sheeple actually believe you (and the millions of others), when you state you have been abducted.

If you could explain with factual details and evidence of your abduction I may actually read it with more enthusiasm. Did you write up your "experience" on ATS? If so please forgive, but I highly doubt there is any facts or evidence.

In any case, I could be wrong about your post and it perhaps it was ridicule anyway. Oh wait that's what I did.



Care and luck,

reply to post by aceace

I have yet to see one shred of evidence of Aliens of any sort

I thought you were claiming none of us have ever seen an extra-terrestrial object? Where do you come off holding complete judgement over anything I have ever seen in my life, or anyone else's for that matter? And your main evidence is crap you have watched on the History Channel.


[edit on 10-9-2009 by Marrr]

Originally posted by NightVision
I respectfully disagree

That's all I'm suggesting. If you check my other posts in the thread, you'll see I don't agree with the premise, either. And I agree with you about the thread. But if someone starts a preposterous thread to generate a heated debate, why give him one? Isn't it maybe better in the long run to coolly and dispassionately refute the premise or ignore the topic?

If we can't raise the bar to our level, we probably ought to not participate in those threads. Showing your buttons were pushed only encourages the behavior, IMHO.