Bush Memos Emerges: God Wants to "Erase" Mid-East Enemies "Before a New Age Begins"

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
Gog and Magog is nothing more than at best...

self fulfilling prophecy if we choose to see the world this way

There is no Gog and Magog any two enemies that rise against the religion will be seen as Gog and Magog

These things were added to the books long ago to assure in later times the church, synagogue etc would never fall to enemies...

vague abstract names that could mean anything, with a purpose of protecting the faith from invaders and conquers, a tool to be used in a time of need, placed at a time when no one understood one day a Nuclear war would be possible

Gog and Magog exist right now

Only if we choose labels over dialouge

The words Gog and Magog refer to actual biblical time geographic locations just like Jordan and Israel refer to actual biblical time geographic locations.


The prophets did not understand nukes but they did describe exactly what a nuke is able to do. The prophets Isaiah and Zechariah talked about the end times war:

Isaiah 17: Damascus, Syria "will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins" in one day leaving the survivors with "disease and incurable pain." This sounds a lot like Damascus being nuked, then radiation effecting the survivors.

Zechariah 14: Concerning Israel's attackers in this war it says "Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths." This is what happens when a nuclear blast hits a human.

This sounds a lot like some one from ancient times attempting to describe the effects of a nuclear weapon.

Also take into consideration the fact that Russia has been helping Iran with their nuclear projects all along. Their military ties are being strengthened more and more. When the soviet union fell, a lot of people who studied Bible prophecy thought that the prophecy would never happen but now we can see clearly that it is well on its way.



Religion has been used to control man but Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship with Jesus Christ. I would not consider my relationships in life as religions, would you?

reply to post by Miraj


No REAL, TRUE Christian would. Just because Bush says he is Christian does not, I repeat -Does Not- make him one. And I know for a fact that he isn't, ok? It's strange to watch this unfold, I know Bush set up faith based offices and things like that, but it's part of a much sinister plan in my honest opinion. Yes it provides a certain justification for things like this, but it's an evil one. The Holy Spirit doesn't guide these folks, greed money and power do. Whatever name they chose to do it in really doesn't guide the person. "Would a rose by any other name smell just as sweet?" It works the same way for the crap as well.
How soon Christians forget things like the inquisition that we had to strive through, that's why America was so wonderful. Freedom of religious persecution. Now look what they've done. You think with all the power that God Almighty has, he would need that man? I don't.

reply to post by treemanx



You are either a relative of Bush, ill-informed, or dangerously biased in your opinions. Dude, have you seen the state of our world today? Obama has been prez for a 100 days and bush eight years. Um... Speechless.

And for you to deny this story merely because you don't want to believe it is ridiculous.

And for all those that star the post...

AAC

If the almighty God who created the heavens and earth and all things in the universe wanted a few people dead in the Middle East why would he need Bush to accomplish it for him? Why would not he, who has smited Sodom and Gomorrah, simply do it himself?

Why do conservatives think they are the right hand of God?

Religious zealots really worry me. Especially when they try to use scripture to support a wicked and worldly lifestyle.

I find it scary, as well. Bush thinks he is playing God. This kind of thing gives Christians a bad name. There are many differences in the meaning of Gog and Magog. All religions see it a bit differently.

Gog in the book of Islam is: Joj

Gog is written in Hebrew with 3 letters which sounds in English like Gorr

So we have JOJ and we have GORR. We have JOJ and we have GORR. Someone combined the two possible ways, and created the name GEORGE.

But this is a big change from Gog. Magog is the Ancient Scythians - Islamic southern republics of the former Soviet Union with million Muslims.

This territory could include modern Afghanistan.

Someone already gave the answer, as to why France didnt offer assistance. To this day I believe all these middle Eastern wars are considered Holy wars from both sides.

The threat of Islamic terrorism affects Muslim countries as well Western countries. For those who study Bible prophecy, the conflict in the Middle East is no mystery, the final battle according to the Bible, Armageddon, is located in Israel.

In the biblical view, alliances of nations, including Russia (Magog) from the North and Iran (Persia) along with other nations make an alliance against Israel.

These other nations include Libya and Ethiopia both Muslim nations today.

Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by Boogley

 

Yes, they would.

Christians murder all the time, but so do people. I'm being fair, by saying that; people are insane they always will be. Christianity and other religions just give them justification to the masses.. People are stupid and will always be misled someway, obviously the holy spirit inside christians doesn't prevent this.

But I seriously hope these memos are NOT real. We have a serious problem, much more serious than we ever did if they are..

If they are murdering then are they really Christian? To be Christian is to follow the way of Jesus who taught that even hating a person is considered murder and instead we should be filled with love for one another. If they are not abiding by the way of Jesus then how could they possibly be of Him? The Bible teaches a way to see if a person is truly a Christian or not, it is by looking at their works in life. Are they vengeful, hateful, lying, cheating, deceptive, etc? If they are then they are the exact opposite of Christ so I ask how then could they be considered a Christian?

Jesus taught to bless those who curse you and pray for those who persecute you. A true Christian does this but a wolf in sheep's clothing does not.

reply to post by ColdSteel


The united states government's power is derived from the people, not a notion of god.

At it's time it was a somewhat radical idea, and proof that we don't answer to god, because god isn't asking any questions.

Put simply, the bible is wrong. The politicians should ALWAYS answer to the people and not to an invisible man in the sky.

reply to post by Jesusis1337


How many people truly follow the words of Jesus? Not many. How many claim to be christian and actually believe their non-sense? Very many.

If you look at the people in church, they might be happy there. It's a facade. Most people are angry, depressed, hateful, ect in reallity. Being a christian and accepting Jesus doesn't magically fix their problems, it's just another way to help them think their doing the right things in life.

What i think most people are failing to realise is that the President of the United States is no more than a puppet. He does not call the shots. So whether it was Obama / McCain it would have made no bloody difference.

"If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal" - Unknown

Have you guys heard of the "Scroll of Bush"?

www.templeinstitute.org...

www.powerofprophecy.com...
www.powerofprophecy.com...

President George W. Bush, visiting the nation of Israel, was presented with a rabbinical decree, the Scroll of Bush. The Scroll declared that he, Bush, is none other than the prophesied Gog, of the land of Magog; that is, Chief Prince of Meshech and Tubal.

I'm not a religious person but in the Scroll of Bush, the Rabbis declare BUSH as Gog! I don't get it.

Anyone have any ideas how this might tie together?

reply to post by JanusFIN


Good post Janus. Bush was the perfect example of Einstein's "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."

I appreciate that question because I, in the state of Texas, had heard a lot of discussion about a faith-based initiative eroding the important bridge between church and state. - George W Bush - January 29, 2001

This excerpt from an article on Mail Online...

With the former president known for his devout evangelical beliefs, bible passages were printed on the top secret briefs detailing the progress of the war in 2003, it has emerged.

Here's the article...

U.S. Defence Secretary used quotes from Bible to brief Bush

My BS meter is humming a bit here.

I think Bush was the worst president of my lifetime, but if we are to call BS when we see it...This seems far fetched even for him. Pehaps he did engage in a religious conversation in a geo-political context, but I would be suprised if he deadpanned it as his world view and offered it as an explanation of world events. I am far from a Bush apologist, but I am not buying it.

reply to post by xxpigxx


Because the Eiffel Tower would now be a giant antennae for a CIA listening station and the 3rd Armor would be fighting 'Belgian' insurgents in Paris!

If "evil" christianity is the religion of the right, then "liberalism" is the religion of the left.
Both, if left to their extremes are bad, real bad. but condemming someone based soley on their religeous belief has to be carried both ways, the imams, mullahs, rev. Jerremiah Wright, Louis Farakhan, all should be judged with the same criticism of G Bush, if you're going to do it at all.

I hate to throw a mirror up to some of your obvious hatred towards Bush but if you're going to criticize him based soley on religeous belief then don't be so one sided.

00.02

reply to post by mikerussellus


Its one thing to be religious. It's a complete other to start two wars, that cost the nation so much in both human lives and finances because god told him to (again, I doubt the "memos" authenticity on this one)


When you talk to god, you're religious. When god talks to you, you're crazy.

[edit on 26-5-2009 by Miraj]

Personally, I believe Bush was stupid enough to have been duped into believing the war was right because GOD WILLS IT!

DEUS VULT! DEUS VULT! DEUS VULT!

What a moron. The puppeteer (Mr Cheney) made a grand performance with Bush.

So, who was the 'Bohemond' in this crusade? Which other religious fundamentalist lord joined up in the crusade and went out to the promised land? Which other religious zealot with great political ability went out to the middle east and settled in the land he claimed as his own?

Here you are folks - the other half of the Iraq war paradigm - CLICKY CLICKY

TONY BLAIR IS A RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALIST SCUMBAG. Which other offices of government have been infiltrated by religious fundamentlist fools?

I'm British by the way. The war is hotting up over here - the Awakened versus the NWO Old Guard. Reports like this give us beautiful examples of propaganda to use against them.

The Para.

It’s difficult to know if this article is as accurate as we think it may be. The bias of the reporter has to be taken into consideration as well. Bush was a Christian but was he a "religious nut"? Personally I don't trust the word of the former French President, remember he was working on developing nuclear technology with Sadam and I believe that was the real reason he didn't want to work with Bush in taking Sadam down. This is a very sensational bit of news but it will be interesting to see if it actually turns out to be true. It seems there is a lot of second hand information and little actual documentation.

To establish the New World Order...Elites in control most unify
world population with a world religions and islam is the most
biggest competitor...1

reply to post by Parallex


Thanks for that article about Blair! - Yep! he is the same nut as GWB.

I wonder what their God is telling them these days?

Do God still speak to them?

Fake faith and epic crimes - The Brussels War Crimes Tribunal and the newly established Blair War Crimes Foundation are building a case for the former British prime minister’s prosecution

“We pray,” said Blair, “that in acting we do God’s work and follow God’s will.”

www.newstatesman.com...