Bush Memos Emerges: God Wants to "Erase" Mid-East Enemies "Before a New Age Begins"

Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
How can you question Bush's beliefs? How do you know what he believes in his heart? You accuse him of not being a true christian, but you have no way of knowing that. Only God and President Bush know that.
To quote The Christ; Judge not, lest you be judged.
You may judge his actions, but you have no way of knowing what he really believes.

Does this, perhaps, have anything to tell us?

Matthew 7:20 "So then, you will know them by their fruits.

Matthew 12:33 "Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for the tree is known by its fruit.

reply to post by JanusFIN


This just goes to show the swords that are given to opposing religious sides to embrace war of the physical world.

It's the true test that humans need to understand, that it is 1% truth and 99% perversions that fill main stream religion. Purposely.

It is to keep people from focusing on themselves but focusing instead on less important physical entities.

Focus on yourself for that is the true task at hand.



[edit on 26-5-2009 by Psychonaughty]

Originally posted by Fremd

Originally posted by liveandlearn
Geez, an I thought he was just stupid. This is over the top as far as I am concerned.

...and what's worse is a majority of this country elected him


....twice

Not the second time and maybe not the first.

Originally posted by Manouche

apart from France and Germany, most european countries did join the Coalition in Iraq actually. Only the very mean ones stood out

And we know now France's President Chirac and a subsidiary company of his a highly favourable deal on deep discount oil from Iraq. Germany was feeding at the same trough. Likely both had paid advances on shipments waiting to go to the refineries.

Both countries were pushing Saddam to start dealing exclusively in Euros. Neither were happy to be paying retail price again for oil.

The US could afford to pay top price and shop around, Europeans work on a tighter budget. It's not just about guaranteed supply it's also about the pricing.

Taking out a regime and reparations cost a fortune. Sometimes it's easier to leave things the way they were without the added cost. Still the US went in.

Mike

I've said it before and I don't mind repeating, because it is empirical to the formula, we, the USA, are in the Mid-East to protect the 'Euro's source of oil. Most of our oil comes from our own hemisphere, and its cleaner crude, why do youse think ours is cheaper?
We lose the Euros, we lose alot, get over the BS of this, that and the other thing,, we are there to to clean up the mess the Euros can't find their own broom to deal with.
Oh, and the broom analogy, a new broom sweeps clean.

Isn't it interesting to see the trickery!

In 2003 while lobbying leaders to put together the Coalition of the Willing, President Bush spoke to France's President Jacques Chirac. Bush wove a story about how the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East and how they must be defeated.

Skull & Bones' initiates are assigned or take on nicknames. And what was George Bush Senior's nickname? "Magog".

Sure Magog was at work in the Middle East.

These people are lunatics for sure, but they are tricky buggers - have been for thousands of years. I include Chirac et al too btw

Bush explained to French Pres. Chirac that the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Mid-East and must be defeated.

wait, so we must defeat Great Britain now?

Gog and Magog symbolize one of many links between the modern business institutions of the City [of London] and its ancient history. This is but the most recent of their various re-births, which have long been symbolised by the phoenix on Magog’s shield, representing return after fire. Today, the words of Thomas Boreman in his “Gigantick History” of 1741 summarise the Londoner’s view as well as ever:

“Corineus and Gogmagog were two brave giants who richly valued their honour and exerted their whole strength and force in the defence of their liberty and country; so the City of London, by placing these, their representatives in their Guildhall, emblematically declare, that they will, like mighty giants defend the honour of their country and liberties of this their City; which excels all others, as much as those huge giants exceed in stature the common bulk of mankind.”

"The Lord Mayor's Show 2009: Gog and Magog"

Towards the head of the procession you will see two stern but benevolent wicker giants. They are Gog and Magog, the traditional guardians of the City of London, and they have been carried in the Lord Mayor’s Show since the reign of Henry V.

...

Another version of the story has it that these two giants were the last two survivors of the sons of the thirty-three infamous daughters of Diocletian, who were captured and kept chained to the gates of a palace on the site of Guildhall to act as guardians. However they got there, we do know that by the reign of Henry V, there were carved giants guarding the gates of Guildhall. In 1554 they appeared in the Lord Mayor’s Show, and in 1605 the Pageantmaster of the day alluded to the giants who appeared in the Procession on Lord Mayor’s Day as Corineus and Gogmagog.

Later in 1672, the Pageantmaster Thomas Jordan referred to them as “two exceeding rarities”, and stated that “at the conclusion of the Show, they are to be set up in Guildhall, where they may be daily seen all year and I hope never to be demolished by such dismal violence as happened to their predecessors.” He was referring to the destruction of much of the City by the great fire in 1666...

i saw this thread earlier, but now this just got much more interesting...

Originally posted by LAUGHING-CAT

we, the USA, are in the Mid-East to protect the 'Euro's source of oil. Most of our oil comes from our own hemisphere, and its cleaner crude, why do youse think ours is cheaper?

We lose the Euros, we lose alot, get over the BS of this, that and the other thing, we are there to to clean up the mess the Euros can't find their own broom to deal with.

Oh, and the broom analogy, a new broom sweeps clean.

You're talking about the New Broom Order. Someone around here must be able to find some speech somewhere that the phrase is used. And that will be proof of some conspiracy.

The Europeans get a Free Pass on anything involving their security. Incessantly bitching and moaning about the Evil Empire, America.

But unwilling to confront the Middle East oil producing regimes that love to walk all over them and wholly dependent on the US keeping the Russian wolf from the door.

The US ends up playing policeman for the world because no on else wants the job.


Mike

Wow, And people wonder why I like horror movies. They don't scare me half as much as this. What really scares me I knew this kind of person in the church I was brought up in. There are a lot of them out there which really freeks me out. Really gets my fur up! Hisss!! I will vote for Pinhead every day

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Bush sr, in conjunction with other notable neo-cons was running the show the past eight years.

I think that's right, it all points back to Sr. Hasn't he actually been at the helm since '81?

On a lighter note, Hannity trotted out Jeb a couple of nights ago. I didn't see the show but I'm sure it was hammer BO and start setting the stage for Bush III. I've said before, the reason for the various Christian denominations with the Bushes is to capture different demographics when they run. Who better to attract the soon to be disgruntled Latinos than a Roman Catholic? Faith of our fathers my keester.

Originally posted by drwizardphd

Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac: "This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins".

This is absolutely frightening!

Not only is Bush revealed to be a psychopathic religious nut, he's also blatantly referring to a new world order.

The story has now been confirmed by Chirac himself in a new book, published in France in March, by journalist Jean Claude Maurice. Chirac is said to have been stupefied and disturbed by Bush's invocation of Biblical prophesy to justify the war in Iraq and "wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs".

No wonder the French didn't want to help us in the middle east! While we called them pussies and waxed idiotic about freedom fries, they were really the sane ones looking at us as a bunch of religious wackos.

He's not Psychopathic !!

the title is

this is what we get - in dense, shallow stubborn man who thinks he is in communicade with gods will...

What fools...

He kept us safe

"hey you... George W Bush kept you safe!!!!"

ya our $ is now safe in the sewers of Hades

reply to post by mental modulator


This is the most brilliant post I have seen thus far in this entire thread.

Great job! The California Education System is churning out some miracles if you ask me. Who needs God in their life when there is Big Government?

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reply to post by mmiichael


Oil for food program scandal is mainly about bribery and illegal fees. More than 50 countries are involved. Many have joined the Coalition by the way.
France was the second largest purchaser of oil under the program and is accountable for a lot of criminal activities. As far as I remember, german companies participated only in small amounts. If you feel like, search Bayoil, a Texas-based company indicted for the payment of illegal fees to Iraq.
You should know the Oil for food program was created because of a UN resolution that forbade the sales of Iraqi oil to UN members.
There is no basis on the claim that Chirac benefited personally and there is no subsidiary company of his. It is a controversy fabricated with a very clear goal.
Of course, as head of state, he was fully aware of the deals, everybody knew from the start including the US administration.
Strategic markets like oil, arms, aeronautics are no fair competition. Corruption, occult commissions, pressuring, lobbying, exchange of "favors" are everywhere.
Reducing France and Germany position on such a complex issue as the invasion of Iraq to a mere conflict about some oil contracts is simply overlooking the larger picture.
Chirac is as believable as any politician though.

Originally posted by Manouche

Reducing France and Germany position on such a complex issue as the invasion of Iraq to a mere conflict about some oil contracts is simply overlooking the larger picture.

Chirac is as believable as any politician though.

Je m'excuse.

I went on memory on this. Thinking back, there was also a major scandal involving Kofi Anna, head of the UN, and his son in the Oil-for-Food program.

But I did read something seemingly well researched from what I considered a reliable source, that Chirac himself was complicit by involvement with a company that was prospering enormously on Iraqi oil deals. It was intimated that revelations could bring down the him and his government.

I have no particular agenda against Chirac or France, in fact have lived there part of my life. It's possible there was a smear campaign or overzealous journalist. I may check into it.

I thank you for informing me of my misunderstanding and lack of perspective on this matter.


Mike

Originally posted by Manouche
Strategic markets like oil, arms, aeronautics are no fair competition. Corruption, occult commissions, pressuring, lobbying, exchange of "favors" are everywhere. Reducing France and Germany position on such a complex issue as the invasion of Iraq to a mere conflict about some oil contracts is simply overlooking the larger picture.

Yes there must have been big conflicts of interest in the second gulf war to cause the drift! Since sadam was going to be toppled a lot of agreements would have become null and void. The smaller countries in the eastern block had very little to lose and thus joined in...me2...me2

I guess we will never know the exact reasons but in the end it barely matters. During the last decade the EU has become strong and need not take orders from america. A lot also depends on what government is currently in power. Right helps right, left helps left Blair was the exception to the rule but since usa and britain have always been close there was no way they could have said no. Same is/was true with australia.

My 2 cents worth

[edit on 27-5-2009 by EarthCitizen07]

reply to post by liveandlearn


Oh he is stupid to actually let religious beliefs drive any of his motivation as president. But alas he is a puppet and what better puppet to TPTB than a dumb gullible hick? Yet another feeble mind twisted and skewed all in the name of his personal religious beliefs....

Wow. This is contradictory. There's a YouTube video of Bush being interviewed (I think it was a late-night talk show. I'm at work and don't have time to look for it) but the host asked Bush, Jr. if he took the bible literally and Bush wrinkled up his nose, squinced his eyes and said, "Nahhhhhh."