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Livecam from Gaza

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posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 12:50 PM
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It appear to be the same view as CNN except brighter. I can hear the bombs and drones again. The mic must be inside.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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Time to make conclusion...



One hour of prime time news in Middle East has gone... I kept looking>

- PressTV (Iran)
- Ramattan (Gaza)
- Al Jazeera (Doha)
And CNN "ramattan" feed

In tree news channels we get 1 report from Al Jazeera, broadcasted from basement studio, they show CNN LIVE feed for 2-3 second.

1. Ramattan dont use their "own" Live cameras at all / no interviews
2. PressTV dont interview their corresponders at all / no live pictures
3. Al Jazeera speaks only to studio / no live situation pictures
4. We saw artillery fire in distance, then camera moves out from that angle

- Do we need more evidence to make conclusion > Gaza is Blackout?



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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reply to post by TheKingsVillian
 


FROM WHERE YOU GUYS ARE GETTING AUDIO?



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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The ustream link a page back.

I agree its a blackout, ill tune in later today and hopefully gaza is still there.

All the best Hamas.

Later guys im going to bed.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:00 PM
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Actually, the audio on upstream.tv cut several minutes back. Now it is just an image of the operator typing at a terminal, with the feed on a monitor in the foreground. (Earlier audio was too choppy to be of use anyways).

[EDIT] Main cam just came back online (no audio).

[edit on 1/12/2009 by clay2 baraka]



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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What I seen of the upstream.tv feed earlier showed a perfect undamaged Gaza fully lit .... ALL lights on with an occasional explosion or sounds of war.

In my opinion what I seen had to be old recorded material from the live feed. Gaza hasn't had that many lights on for several days now.



[edit on 12-1-2009 by Walkswithfish]



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:10 PM
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Okay the sound on the ustream feed just came online (very choppy).

I have been watching CNN and the independent feed and I am convinced that we are looking at 2 cameras. Earlier, I saw them pan around independently and later sync up their views.

It was very odd.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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It is live, the cnn feed has a 1 minute delay compared to the upstream tv one. I just saw that ambulance go past on cnn while I saw it 1 minute ago on the other.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by Walkswithfish
What I seen of the upstream.tv feed earlier showed a perfect undamaged Gaza fully lit .... ALL lights on with an occasional explosion or sounds of war.

In my opinion what I seen had to be old recorded material from the live feed. Gaza hasn't had that many lights on for several days now.

That is NOT a live feed.


In that case, the feed to CNN is fake as well. I hope you are wrong, but there is no way to know if this "live" footage is being manipulated without extensive review of old footage. My earlier observation of the "same" cam feed makes me a little suspicious of the authenticity of these "live" feeds.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-
reply to post by Walkswithfish
 


It is live, the cnn feed has a 1 minute delay compared to the upstream tv one. I just saw that ambulance go past on cnn while I saw it 1 minute ago on the other.


I actually saw both cams pan around and focus on the same position (side-by-side browser windows). Something is odd with the feeds.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:19 PM
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A truck just went past on the us stream, now watch it again on cnn, in approx 40 seconds

*edit, the delay on cnn is approx 20 secs

[edit on 12-1-2009 by -Rugged Shark-]



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:21 PM
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I see that now, thank you. Was that small-arms muzzle flashes in the street?



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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reply to post by clay2 baraka
 


I agree.

Same guys are not working with these cameras than yesterday... They dont want to support this scam what has taken place!

Isnt that odd, that Ramattan News them self are not using own footage?

Isnt that a fact how can know, that CNN is making joke with truth now with all it means?

/// Delay is in Ustream - CNN comes first, about 10 sec.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by JanusFIN]



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:26 PM
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Mate, you'd better check CNN again. They're showing the bombing aswell.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:27 PM
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posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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Thank god for the aid trucks. Hamas have stated Israel has taken a beating and retreating out of Gaza in denial - no idea if that's true or not. Do any tech people have a satellite we could use to bounce Ramattan directly? Here's the link: www.ramattan.net...

Update: IDF using WP again! Animals...



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:30 PM
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We should all be a little skeptical that this might be earlier footage. At least entertain the possibility. There are no frame of references as to date/time or corroborating footage. .

I am going to work under the assumption that it is real, live footage however.

By the way, all of the white phosphorus a moment ago dropped in the middle of the dense city area. There are likely many dying civilians because of this right now. Sad.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:31 PM
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Watching, but too much has been happen already...

Voice is coming now from Ustream>
www.ustream.tv...
Put that running behind. Its not camera mic, but can hear drones, bombs



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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Yah I just saw that also, dropping more white phosphorus. The flares lit up the sky pretty good at the same time. Did anybody record that? I just woke up and turned my recorder on after it happened. If anybody recorded it please add it to YouTube and post the link here.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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I've been following this for well over 48 hours, this is not a repeat of anything I've seen so far - also this is about the 10th payload of WP I've seen dropped on Gaza city today alone. It's so wrong.

*EDIT*

No I'm not able to record at the moment as I'm on a laptop which is lacking in everything.


[edit on 12-1-2009 by Goathief]




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