Livecam from Gaza

reply to post by -Rugged Shark-


Without reason... It has been uncut for over 5 hours!!! This is media war... They will launch something now. This is way they work, they gather all the viewers, and then shut their eyes---

www.hiwarforum.com...

PressTV is rolling footage - we need the link!!!!

[edit on 12-1-2009 by JanusFIN]

Its still showing on CNN, on edition.cnn.com... !

reply to post by JanusFIN


I guess that Chicago is more important to them than Gaza. Nothing you or I can do about it. Just relax and the Gaza feed will be back shortly.

i was watching the CNN feed and the ipresstv at the same time. cnn went to Chicago so Im watching the ipresstv feed.

dont know if this will work but this is what I am watching.

ipresstv
[edit on 1/12/2009 by KitKat81]

[edit on 1/12/2009 by KitKat81]

It's here: edition.cnn.com...

[edit on 12-1-2009 by Goathief]

reply to post by -Rugged Shark-


Yeah, we are back!

But picture is totally black... - You know, I just hate those full smiling anchors speaking "all saving Obama is coming" messages - thats just so crazy... US news are so unreal, I usually dont watch those because I hate that "everything is ok" and btw, "if its not, we still keep smiling" - attitude...

Something to consider, it has been alleged that Hamas is the proxy of Iran, and that in order for Israel to launch attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities it must "deal with the Hamas problem beforehand" and all of this must take place BEFORE Barack Obama's inauguration.

This finial push in Gaza is an all out effort to eliminate Hamas, this the Israelis do not deny, and obviously they will now attempt to accomplish this goal at any cost. which would explain the heavy civilian casualties.

Once this is complete, or Israel has stated that it has achieved its goals in Gaza, and the above allegations are true, then Iran could be targeted, and that should likely happen also before Obama's inauguration.



[edit on 12-1-2009 by Walkswithfish]

Body count anyone?

GAZA (Reuters) – Israel won renewed support from its key ally the United States on Monday when President George W. Bush said a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip depended on Hamas ending its rocket fire on Israeli towns.

As the Palestinian death toll passed 900, including many civilians, troops tightened their grip around urban areas in search of elusive guerrillas and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Israel would pursue the 17-day-old war as long as it took.

Troops and tanks, backed by warplanes and helicopters that mounted more than 25 air strikes, probed into guerrilla defenses around the city of Gaza, wary of snipers and booby traps. Hamas fighters kept largely out of sight, firing several rockets into Israel and bracing for an all-out assault that may yet come.

As international diplomats worked with Egypt on a truce plan, an Israeli military spokesman said the army had yet to launch a much-heralded "Phase 3" of the war, following the initial air campaign and then ground advance.

www.yahoo.com

Over 900 dead as of the time of this report.

They will either eliminate Hamas or so severely reduce the risks from Hamas that they will not be a problem when the attacks on Iran begin.

Are any of the streams working?
Seems none are working for me.

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
Something to consider, it has been alleged that Hamas is the proxy of Iran, and that in order for Israel to launch attacks on Iranian nuclear facilities it must "deal with the Hamas problem beforehand" and all of this must take place BEFORE Barack Obama's inauguration.

This finial push in Gaza is an all out effort to eliminate Hamas, this the Israelis do not deny, and obviously they will now attempt to accomplish this goal at any cost. which would explain the heavy civilian casualties.

Once this is complete, or Israel has stated that it has achieved its goals in Gaza, and the above allegations are true, then Iran could be targeted, and that should likely happen also before Obama's inauguration.



[edit on 12-1-2009 by Walkswithfish]

Why do you think that this is the case? That israel want rid of hamas so they can strike iran before inaguration. Is this just your opinion or do you actually have a source.

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It is my informed opinion based on my own research. It is NOT a conclusion, or fact..... yet.

I believe this is the most likely scenario, based on my own findings.

Israel cannot attack Iran while without launching these strikes in Gaza aimed at the destruction of Hamas.

They are eliminating Iran's ability to retaliate on Israel through Hamas.

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
reply to post by Truther

 

It is my informed opinion based on my own research. It is NOT a conclusion, or fact..... yet.

I believe this is the most likely scenario, based on my own findings.

Israel cannot attack Iran while without launching these strikes in Gaza aimed at the destruction of Hamas.

They are eliminating Iran's ability to retaliate on Israel through Hamas.

Im not disagreeing with you, its very possible, after all didnt israel get info that iran could have nuke bombs by feb 2009? And also obama said he was gonna try and find a more diplomatic way with the iran situation, and i dont think israel wants that do they..

If they do attack iran before inaguration, bush will hold on to office, " National emergency" remember.

Want Ramattan feed? Here's another one from my Israeli sources. No sound though.

switch434-01.castup.net...

Now if we combine the vid feed with the sound fid...

Long live the IDF.

Live feed available from www.hiwarforum.com...
I think it is pressTV

reply to post by Truther


You are getting the picture, there are facts out there if anyone wishes to inform themselves, otherwise just sit back and watch the show, you'll find out one way or the other soon enough.

FYI, Bush has no intention of holding on to office, he will leave regardless of whatever happens in the Middle East. So do not worry about that happening.

Joe Biden did warn the American public that Obama would be tested once in office, we still have yet to see what that test will be, perhaps this will be it?

[edit on 12-1-2009 by Walkswithfish]

speculation is what stupid does

I am watching onhe following channel and they are showing live feed intermittently but I cant make out where the feed is coming from.

www.islamchannel.tv...

Uhh.. The border with Gaza is guarded by remote controlled turrets, which actually scored some kills during the first few days of the conflict.

An attack on Iran is a conspiracy nutters wet dream as I understand it. If it went that far, carpet bombing the whole area wouldn't be a problem, because all eyes would be directed elsewhere.

Originally posted by Goathief

the innocent civilians caught in the cross fire because of cowards hiding in their midst?

/snip

What I have seen is WP being used as a tool of concealment and as a tool of Incineration

So the logical action when you take out targets who are using civilians as cover is to incinerate the lot of them using WP?

That is immoral, disgusting and probably illegal. What a lovely human being you are! Combine this with talk of propaganda when there is none and accusations of conspiracy and we have to conclude you are a pro-Zionist mouthpiece aiming to disrupt the thread.

Back on topic somewhat, has anyone been listening to the Bush speech? What does he have to say?

Wow, who peed in your bonnet. I said I respected your view. I was pointing out how "I" felt about what "I" was seeing. You do not have to agree. This is a discussion forum and I thought thats what was happening. I know its hard to translate peoples intentions by looking at Fonts, but I assure you, I ment it in no unkind way. If it sounded as an attack on your beliefs, then that is something you need to live with and over come, for that is not my fault.

I am Pro-Israel Pro Innocent Palistinians. No one wakes up in the morning as says "I want to Burn a bunch of Babies today!" except for a very few sociopaths.

My view is, this is propaganda and I thought I showed why I thought that. The statement you just made, I could easily say that your were a...(intentinilly left blank). But I didnt, instead I tried to take the higher road and I thought the conversation was going well.

I have limited experience with warfare, limited. I know a few things that maybe you dont about it. No, I have never seen combat, but I have been trained for it.

Do not be so ready to take the word of some Joe Somebody on this coveted Live Stream or other media for their word. It's so easy to spout "ITS AGAINST THE GENEVA CONVENTION" when those words are totally false and are propaganda in themselves to get people like you who might believe anything they hear, because 1, they are to naive to know any better, or 2. They are too darned lazy to actually research it...And GOOGLE is not a research.

Again, I will make this attempt. I respect your view. You see it differently then I do. GOOD FOR YOU!! That means something important, now its up to you to find out what it does mean, to you.

This live feed has been interesting to say the least. Yes, it shows whats happening, but through a Straw's perspective. Don't know what that means? Look through a Straw and see how much of the world you actually can see.

They point the camera where they want you to see. Ever think of whats happening where the camera is not pointed?

hey the cnn feed has sound now