Egyptians open fire on Palestinians

Originally posted by LiquidMirage

If they are not shipping in food because they want the terrorists to fire at those damn evil Jews then they really don't give a damn about the so called "starving" palestinians now do they?

No. Certainly not as much as they want rockets fired at Israel. This is not even relevant to our discussion.

Furthermore, (I'll ask the question again since it got by that half a brain of yours) why is the palestinian leadership not pleading to the world for food if they are worried about their people "starving"?

The food is being stopped at the border, which means food supply, medicine, red cross, and other necessities. The weapons are being smuggled in through tunnels by Israel enemies.

And please don't ask me why the red cross and the trucks of supplies don't through the tunnels. Just look at both sides objectively before you have an opinion. It is an intelligent protocol.

It seems that "half a brain" is not serving you to well now is it?

Is it embarrassing to be you? You should hold off on these remarks until you find out if your conjectures were relevant. Once again, they weren't.

Source please...

10 to 1 before 2008

And the 76 to 1 was the ratio to the latest conflict presently going on.

It doesn't seem like you are worried about those damn pesky Jews being killed by surprise rocket attacks and suicide bombers in civilian areas.

I am saddened by any innocent death, no matter who it is. Once again, your assertion is irrelevant and offending that you accuse me of being heartless when I am arguing about the heartlessness of Israeli policy. So ironic...

At least when Israel kills palestinian civilians

You need spiritual help. There is no vengeance in love & light.

it is a consequence of destroying rocket launch sites and bomb making facilities that are purposely located as close to civilian areas

Um... You've seen the map of palestine's land being taken over the years, right? They are practically boxed in. 2 million of them. You aren't even a logical thinker.

..and stupid people fall for it every time.

You should be upset with your family for teaching you heartless lies. You fell for it.

The palestinian terrorists target civilians on purpose !

No. When Israel kills palestnian civilians they pull that retort from their rhetoric roladex. Again, they were BOXED IN.

But then again, what else shall I expect from left wingers that make up history as they go?

These are facts. Prove me wrong. I challenge you!

[ The day is rapidly approaching when you are going to find our just how wrong you are!

Prove it.

AAC



[edit on 31-12-2008 by AnAbsoluteCreation]

was i naive to think that people on this forum would not so easily label each other by the location that they came into existence?
surely not all 'americans' are represented by their 'leader'. or all 'israelis' or 'palestinians' or 'british' or... whatever.... are resposible for the actions of others born or living near them?

seems to be very broad generalisations flying about on this site. very disappointing.

an army.. shooting toward, above or at any people fleeing in fear for their lives.. gets 'tacit?' support from some posters because of some other individuals actions (whoever they may be). what is this about?!

looking at the situation with what i see as logic.... let people flee... regardless of perceived history, regardless of ... whatever. borders exist only in human imagination.

people similar to you are being attacked. explosions falling from the sky. what would you do? where would you go? forget the media, forget the 'law'. forget race, religion, 'terrorism'. be realistic. be scientific. be human. i so badly want to swear but ....... i will resist.
this whole situation is madness.

remember when you speak about 'israelis' or 'palestinians', or 'egyptians' or 'americans' or 'jews' or 'arabs' or ...... etc. you are missing the point. 'IMO'



have a happy new 'year'

"You've seen the map of palestine's land being taken over the years, right? They are practically boxed in. 2 million of them. You are even a logical thinker."

Boxed In...

reply to post by Exuberant1


Thank you for that. However, I believe this person's belief's are stitched too tight to see what is fair. But thanks again!

AAC

reply to post by Keyhole


There's also the unfortunate behavior of Palestinian refugees in other Arab countries - the attempted takeover of Jordan by the PLO in the early '70s, the fun and games in Lebanon after that.

Can you really blame Egypt for not wanting to be #4 (counting Israel itself as being #3 for having been swindled on the "land for peace" deal after the Oslo Accords)? Going by historical precedent, letting the Palestinians settle in the Sinai would eventually result in an armed camp being established within their borders. The Palestinians wouldn't accept the pointed hint of an armed and fortified border, forced their way through... and were fired on.

What's the difference anyway?

The West has over a Billion people and countless land...

Islam has 1.5 Billion people and dominates a couple dozen nations...

No one some how has a place for either group.

And it is, it's their own Holy BS on both sides that causes it,

NWO vs ISLAM, it's a bad wrestling match, neither group of manipulators whatever agenda they have is that bright or efficient at getting anything done, the players involved in the Middle East are Superstitious people who get caught up in this insanity...

You know I always asked myself

Why don't the Eskimos who don't like the Snow move south... maybe in the case of the Palestinians at the moment they can't

But you'd think over the last 60 years more of either group would get out of dodge... I'm Jewish, I say it in here all the time, If g-d promised me that land HE will deliver it not England, proud do be a Jewish American my whole life, i'd never fight for a place my life sucked in. My family had the brains to go to America, where we were wanted...

The holy land and and we were here first thing is moronic...

I seriously think the UN should establish a "WORLD ZONE" in the region and take it over entirely a huge area around the region designated as a Global religious sanctuary or something and disarm it entirely

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation
Scum of the earth pallys....Even hated by their own arab brothers. They are truly the lowest of low, like mold that creeps in and tries to take over, like rust on a car, like a bad rash. It is about time someone applied some ointment to that disease. Truly sickening group are they.
Go Israel, we support you 100%...I wonder if I could enlist to help them.

Originally posted by Muundoggie
reply to post by theindependentjournal

 

What this 3 1/2 year old is being taught is very sad. WHY don't her parents TEACH her to LOVE? When one is taught at an early age to HATE there can never be any chance for PEACE.

Like I mentioned in my earlier post... Religions teach hatred and killing in the name of their GOD (the DEVIL) Christianity even teaches the same.
Religions corrupt the thinking of mankind.

[edit on 31-12-2008 by Muundoggie]

The brand of Islam shown in the video is a cult of hated, suicide and death. That is what they teach to their children.

Not all Islamic people believe that trash.

Christianity does not teach hatred. It teaches the way of Divine Love, spiritual regeneration, renewal, enlightenment, sanctification, transformation, illumination and unity of Spirit with the Diviine creator who is God.

[edit on 31-12-2008 by John Matrix]

Any one have pictures of Palestinians eating grass? Does any one have pictures of grass in Palestinian area? Any one have video of Palestinians being killed? Or are you just taking their word for it?

reply to post by GamerGal


"Any one have video of Palestinians being killed? Or are you just taking their word for it? "

I use liveleak, and youtube.

But since you will just say "OMFG Pallywood!" - I won't bother to post any videos.

Pink doesn't suit you.

The map that is posted recently here does not conform to anyything geographically or demographically ever recorded.

Doing a chart with fabricated data does not make it real.


MF

reply to post by mmiichael


"Doing a chart with fabricated data does not make it real."

Correct.

good thing the map posted is accurate, but only until 2000.

Israel has taken much more territory on the past 8 years.

But that is cool, they are God's Chosen People. And how can they steal what God Himself gave to them?

They could even kill you or I and it would a be a privilege for us just to die at their hands - The hands of God's Chosen Race.

Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by GamerGal

 

"Any one have video of Palestinians being killed? Or are you just taking their word for it? "

I use liveleak, and youtube.

But since you will just say "OMFG Pallywood!" - I won't bother to post any videos.

Pink doesn't suit you.

The terrorists use civilians as shields. Of course some civilians will die.

Pink looks very pretty on her. The purple streak accent is very lovely as well.

reply to post by Jessicamsa


"The terrorists use civilians as shields"

You are right.

The Israeli Terrorists do use Human Shields...

*Israeli Soldiers tie a 13 year-old to their Vehicle to act as a Shield and to deter attack.

[edit on 1-1-2009 by Exuberant1]

Originally posted by ivycutler
was i naive to think that people on this forum would not so easily label each other by the location that they came into existence?
surely not all 'americans' are represented by their 'leader'. or all 'israelis' or 'palestinians' or 'british' or... whatever.... are resposible for the actions of others born or living near them?

seems to be very broad generalisations flying about on this site. very disappointing.

an army.. shooting toward, above or at any people fleeing in fear for their lives.. gets 'tacit?' support from some posters because of some other individuals actions (whoever they may be). what is this about?!

looking at the situation with what i see as logic.... let people flee... regardless of perceived history, regardless of ... whatever. borders exist only in human imagination.

people similar to you are being attacked. explosions falling from the sky. what would you do? where would you go? forget the media, forget the 'law'. forget race, religion, 'terrorism'. be realistic. be scientific. be human. i so badly want to swear but ....... i will resist.
this whole situation is madness.

remember when you speak about 'israelis' or 'palestinians', or 'egyptians' or 'americans' or 'jews' or 'arabs' or ...... etc. you are missing the point. 'IMO'

have a happy new 'year'

Extremely well put, if only a certain two trolls would stop for a second and simply consider this rather than feeling the need to meet their uncontrollable need to take a 'side' when taking sides in this thread really is missing the entire point.

So much for the supposed clarity one seems to feel the need to mention so frequently, something suggests to me insecurity on ones own part.

Each man has short comings AAC, perhaps it's time to realise and reflect silently for a moment on your own concerning this very thread, it isn't about sides - simply about injustices that mankind are undertaking.

It's unfortunate the situation is beyond our means to help any of the innocents, or is it?

GamerGal

you like to see humans eating grass? nice ..real nice...


Gaza crisis critical with supplies of food and fuel perilously low

Foreign Reporters’ Group Fights Israeli Prohibition on Entering Gaza

Israel's 'Crime Against Humanity'

reply to post by johnsky


At last someone talking some sense, i agree get the civilians out.....

Originally posted by xxpigxx


Heh . . . guess no one really wants them around. They should really learn to take a hint, I guess.

Wow, that's a pretty sick thing to say. And even worse than people agree with you. Totally disgusting. Women and children are being slaughtered because they had the misfortune to be born Palastinian. Ever heard of the holocaust? Well show me the difference buddy.

Take a look at how much land these people have now, Israel have taken it all nearly, because they are greedy self satisified people, because they believe they are the chosen people of God.

This is just too sick, God does not sanction indiscriminate killing, and I reject any bible or text which says so.

There are some crazy people on this board, and it makes me sick to my stomach to see them revelling in slaughter, totally utterly disgusting and barbaric.

I dont hate anyone , but the facts in plain sight of the world speak

During November, an average of 4.6 trucks of food per day entered Gaza from Israel compared with an average of 123 trucks per day in October. Spare parts for the repair and maintenance of water-related equipment have been denied entry for over a year. The World Health Organization just reported that half of Gaza's ambulances are now out of order.

Israel's 'victories' in Gaza come at a steep price

Israel’s siege of and attacks on Gaza are not without precedent. The U.S.-initiated U.N. Security Council sanctions against Iraq (1990-2003), a well-nigh comprehensive trade and financial embargo against the government of Saddam Hussein, is widely reported to have caused the deaths of some 500,000 Iraqi children under 5 years of age by 1996. But not since Adolph Hitler’s Nazi war machine laid siege to the Warsaw ghetto has the world witnessed such a persistent and systematic attempt by a military force to starve and punish a captive urban civilian population as in Gaza.

Though the Israeli blockade of Gaza is reminiscent of the Nazi attempt to eradicate Jews in Warsaw, the circumstances differ significantly. For instance, when Nazi bureaucrats established food rations insufficient to support life among occupied peoples and captive populations, Germany was at war and trade was severely restricted. According to Charles G. Roland, author of Courage Under Siege: Disease, Starvation and Death in the Warsaw Ghetto, “Germany itself had a serious shortage of food. Even in the capital city, Berlin, the heart of the Third Reich, food was scarce as early as the end of 1940.”

Warsaw Revisited

During World War II, wartime censorship and the fog of war largely hid from public view the atrocities Nazi Germany committed against Jews in Warsaw. Chillingly similar Israeli policies in Gaza are no secret, but only because Israeli censorship and an Israeli public relations campaign, which renders submissive and complicit U.S. mainstream media organizations unable to report on events in the Middle East in an unbiased manner, have been insufficient to completely obscure and decontextualize Israel’s efforts to prevent 1.5 million captive Gazans from obtaining sufficient supplies of food, medicine, and fuel to support life.

Originally posted by GamerGal
Any one have pictures of Palestinians eating grass? Does any one have pictures of grass in Palestinian area? Any one have video of Palestinians being killed? Or are you just taking their word for it?

I may be dumb, unable to contemplate the greater picture or whatever - who knows. But, could you please explain to me what on earth that post is about?