Egyptians open fire on Palestinians

reply to post by theindependentjournal


You know what makelaugh you seem to genuinly believe that you are helping but guess what you arent from what i can see you are addament that those people should all die

and for wanting to kill all those terrorists makes me sick still because you are just as bad as a murderer if you kill one

two wrongs dont make a right you know

so please watch what you say because nobody should hear that killing is right in any circumstance because its not

reply to post by masonwatcher

It really is puzzling; while the israelis are murdering the people of Gaza, the zionist here have been gunning for the Egyptians. They seem to want to drag the Egyptians into the gutter with them.

The Egyptians dragged themselves into this by closing their border with Gaza and also refusing to allow aid in. Your double standard is not surprising. I guess it is just easier to blame Israel.

reply to post by theindependentjournal


None. But when it is the country that was being bobmed that breaks the peace that was reached, they are to blame.

Neither side should aim to kill civillians, it is wrong. But right now it is Israel doing so... And they are doing it worse.

[edit on 31-12-2008 by StevenDye]

Originally posted by bodrul
so since you are say you are for killing Mass murders
you agree on going after the Israelis that are responsible for mass murder aswell? or is it one sided for you

Israel aren't mass murderers, but thanks for playing!

A nation defending itself from internal attacks by terrorist organizations is not a murderous lot, it is their DUTY as the Government of a Nation to protect it's people from harm when they can...

reply to post by theindependentjournal


its their Duty now?
so killing Indiscriminatly is their duty

so by your words its Hamas's duty to protect the people of palestine from Israel and the choke hold it has on them

classic

Originally posted by StevenDye
None. But when it is the country that was being bobmed that breaks the peace that was reached, they are to blame.

WHAT? Are you suggesting that Israel broke the peace and started attacking palestine first?

If you are our conversation is done, I can not debate someone who makes stuff up, the facts and only the facts maa'm.

reply to post by theindependentjournal


And yet people condemn Palestine for trying to defend itself. Double standards.


Israel broke the peace, they knew what the Hamas would do. the Hamas are bad yes, but Israel knew what would happen.

I posted a link to a source showing an Israeli raid into Palestine where they killed 6 Hamas members during the period of peace. It's only a couple of pages back by now.

[edit on 31-12-2008 by StevenDye]

Originally posted by bodrul

so by your words its Hamas's duty to protect the people of palestine from Israel and the choke hold it has on them

Well Hamas started this but sure, OK, if Hamas can beat Israel I say go for it, they should go all out and give Israel the reason to wipe them all out...

Great Idea Thanks!

Oh wait... Israel never loses these things, only arab states do, to bad for Hamas.

I find it interesting that so many on here love Terrorists, I wonder if the British government knows it has so many sympathizers of Terror inside its Borders?

reply to post by StrangeBrew


You left a lot out of your "history".

First the name of the territory was Trans-Jordan, not Palestine. The British did want a peacefull solution to the problems there. So, they decided that it would be best to divide Trans-Jordan into two territories, Jordan and Israel. This was done because of the religious AND ethnic differences. Each side demanding its own homeland and threatening to fight unless they got it.

Second, the Palestinians were not innocent bystanders during WWII. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, joined with the Nazis to help wipeout the Jews. The Mufti was instrumental in changing the German policy of allowing some Jews to immigrate out of Germany and Poland, to Trans-Jordan, or to the west.

This Grand Mufti later became an SS general and setup an all Muslim force of SS in the Balkans. He had plans to setup extermination camps in Palestine.

After the war the Mufti came back to the region to stir up tensions between Muslims and Jews. He helps to establish the Muslim Brotherhood, the grandfather of all Muslim terror groups. He helped Yasser Arafat create the PLO.

Third, Israel was created by UN mandate, not British edict. The entire body of the UN voted and the state of Israel was created. The Arab states had their chance, most of them refused to even vote on the issue. Given their behavior during WWII and the aid they gave to the Nazis, they got what they deserved.

Lastly, the Arab states did not "give peace a chance" instead they attacked the state of Israel, one day after it was created. The idea was to wipe it and the Jews off the face of the Earth. By the way, the Arab armies that invaded killed Jews, Christians, and Muslims without regard to who was who.

reply to post by theindependentjournal


I am not defending any terrorists...I am defnding the 5 year old child who fear for his life because a group of terrorists is trying to kill another group of terrorists.

I wonder if your country knows your sympathising with terrorism?

And seeing as our government is commiting acts of terrorism everyday you've probably just got me a job near the top.

The thread I spoke of...

[edit on 31-12-2008 by StevenDye]

[edit on 31-12-2008 by StevenDye]

reply to post by theindependentjournal


Hamas didn`t `start this` and the link to prove it was allready posted


or do you ignore things that fail to support your agenda?

and do you support the Gaza Ghetto?

Originally posted by StevenDye
I am not defending any terrorists...I am defnding the 5 year old child who fear for his life because a group of terrorists is trying to kill another group of terrorists.

5 year olds? I would say those are Expert and practiced haters and terrorists and just as a show of proof that 5 year olds can be terrorist I will show you some Arab TV, but you will have a reason why this is ok too...

I am done responding to the other person who said Israel started this and not Hamas by sending Rockets into Israel for the last month, I can NOT debate people who can not face the truth so that person is Ignored and gone...



HOLY SMOKES SHE IS 3 and 1/2 YEARS OLD and looks well versed in hate and murder, so 5 year olds are definitely PRACTICED and PROFESSIONAL!!!

EDIT - Pay close attention to what the little girl says their god calls Jews, it is awfully also like what Hitler said about them and had a hitlist that showed it...

Apes? Evolution rears its ugly head again. If they are Apes they must be less evolved and therefore it is good for the species to kill off the lower species to make the evolution of the rest faster, JUST ASK HITLER OR DARWIN!

[edit on 12/31/2008 by theindependentjournal]

Originally posted by johnsky
I'm not saying the response from Hamas was necessary... but then again, what feasible options do they have on the table?

What options do they have?? Are you asking that question as a justification for terrorism? They could try NOT firing rockets indiscriminately intending to kill Israeli civilians for starters. Notice that this time around, nobody besides the very dedicated Israel haters are calling for an end to this action. People are sick of this crap, Hamas starting fights, then saying they're ready to talk it out when they start getting their arses handed to them, over and over again.

I do feel for the innocent palestinians who just want out, but if you think about it, that's the last thing Hamas wants, then they run out of shields and they would REALLY feel the Israel's fire then. Hamas could give a damn about their own people, they are religious fanatics bent on fighting Israel, they have NO desire for peace and they just pretend to when they start getting hurt. They are cowards, IMO true freedom fighters do their best to target ONLY military or government, not innocent civilians.

[edit on 31-12-2008 by 27jd]

Originally posted by dooper
Gazans need the Gaza equivalent of their own Reverand Jim Jones.

Man. What a contentious people. That's what happens when you're a group of stupid fanatics.

No one likes you.

You have no real friends.

Life is miserable.

Drink the coolaid.

Im glad thats not how the world views Americans due to G. Bush.
(Or we would all be in trouble.)

Peace

dAlen

[edit on 31-12-2008 by dAlen]

Originally posted by dAlen

Originally posted by dooper
Gazans need the Gaza equivalent of their own Reverand Jim Jones.

Man. What a contentious people. That's what happens when you're a group of stupid fanatics.

No one likes you.

You have no real friends.

Life is miserable.

Drink the coolaid.

Im glad thats not how the world views Americans due to G. Bush.
(Or we would all be in trouble.)

Peace

dAlen

[edit on 31-12-2008 by dAlen]

Anyone writing something like that has murder in his heart. Pure evil and an undeniable zionist mentality.

reply to post by masonwatcher


What do you think should happen to a country that closes its border to the Palestinians and won't allow humanitarian aid in?

reply to post by theindependentjournal


What this 3 1/2 year old is being taught is very sad. WHY don't her parents TEACH her to LOVE? When one is taught at an early age to HATE there can never be any chance for PEACE.

Like I mentioned in my earlier post... Religions teach hatred and killing in the name of their GOD (the DEVIL) Christianity even teaches the same.
Religions corrupt the thinking of mankind.



[edit on 31-12-2008 by Muundoggie]

Originally posted by titorite

Originally posted by xxpigxx


Heh . . . guess no one really wants them around. They should really learn to take a hint, I guess.

Your respect for human life would make both Nazi Germany and the Israeli proud. One can only hope that your a Darwin award winner.

Excuse me, but many senior muslim clerics, political leaders and heads of state have repeatedly stated over the years that they deny ALL jews the right to life. In many countries as soon as Islam gains political dominance they very quickly do their best to exterminate any none muslim sections of that society. Hamas is attacking Israel because HAMS and the Palestinians was to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth and the jews slaughtered. So the pallies can not complain if the Israelis fight back.

reply to post by Northern Raider


apparantly 30,000 Iranian Jews seem to be living proof your talking crap

they have 1 of 3 Jewish only hospitals in the world , in Tehran

they have a fully fledge memeber of parliment - and there rights as followers of judaism are in teh constituation of iran.

but they must be all dead because you believe all muslim exterminate them

reply to post by Harlequin


Perhaps someone could post my link for theindependantjournal to see. I posted it twice in this thread, and she blocks me because I tell her I will post it again.

Ah well, anybody though please, lest we let her sit in ignorance and fight her corner without all the evidence.