Alien Domes On The Moon? Let’s Set The Controversy to Rest!

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow

In short Internos, do you believe in ET existence, because I have never seen you admit that?

wZn

In short yes, i do believe in the existence of more intelligent forms of life. This is NOT news for all the people who ACTUALLY know me. You did put in my mouth something that ive never said, like

So basically you're dismissing the mayans, Egyptians, ancient cultures and beliefs and artifacts, whistleblowers, insiders, ex-astronauts, historians and their findings and theories, galactic intelligence beyond 'our' Earth, and endless accounts of abductions, sightings and contactees?

Now please show me where and when i did dismiss all this stuff: fairness is a prerequisite needed in order to talk with me, you have been NOT fair hence you fall in the category of people deserving to be ignored, sad but TRUE. You decide: apologize or get ignored. Don't try again to put in my mouth some stuff: you would always be wrong: I know what i mean, not you: if there's something not clear in what i say, please ASK.


[edit on 25/1/2009 by internos]

Originally posted by internos

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow

Don't try again to put in my mouth some stuff: you would always be wrong: I know what i mean, not you: if there's something not clear in what i say, please ASK.


[edit on 25/1/2009 by internos]

The way I read it, that was excactly what he did, he asked. I don't understand why you get so upset about it.

[edit on 25-1-2009 by sebarud]

Originally posted by sebarud

The way I read it, that was excactly what he did, he asked. I don't understand why you get so upset about it.

The point is that i didn't dismiss the claims , but the WAY they were posed: some anonymous claiming something adds NOTHING to the discussion, not to mention the off topic facet. For example, i could claim something in agreement with you, but if i do it in some way, that adds nothing to the reliability of the research. One comes, anonymously, and makes a lot of claims providing zero evidences, some of his claims may even be matching the truth, but what is their value? And where are the boundaries between truth, theories and otrageous claims? THIS is the point of my post. If the anonymous guy has NOT the time to register to ATS, then he shouldn't bother to make posts like that: that is NOT the anonymous post purpose.

reply to post by internos


I see that my last post turned out to be a mess, I did something wrong when quoting you.

Just to clearlify: I was talking about your answer to "watchZEITGEISTnow", and why you seem to get upset with him. He just asked you a question, that's all.

(I did not refer to the anonymous poster. I seldom bother to read those posts.)

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sebarud: just let me to clarify, i'm not upset: the only problem is that my request of provide some corroborating evidences to the anonymous poster was taken as dismissing the theories and facts he mentioned, each one has its own story, some of them i know even very well, some of them i completely ignore: the post (anonymous) in question is a list of claims with zero corroborating evidences, and i repeat myself, i really don't see the reason to remain anonymous: to compile a post like that requires ten minutes, to register requires one minute, now please tell me why to remain anonymous then: register, start a thread, share your evidences and then we can discuss, what's the problem with that, fear of men in black? That way, he gets the opposite result, because (of course) no one can take seriously what he claims, even if he claims something real

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OK, I see what you mean, I guess we misunderstood each other.

And I agree with you about the anonymous poster, why not join if you have something important to say? You are just as anonymous with a member name and an avatar...

reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow


i am sorry to butt in here

internos is one of the best people on this site when it comes to posting Real info about E.T.'s and UFO's ... period !

take my advice and don't question it. just pay attention when you see posts from internos ...i have learned alot. trust me



[edit on 25-1-2009 by easynow]

check this out ...


camo dome ?



www.boomslanger.com...



ventilation shaft or lookout post ?






www.boomslanger.com...






no idea what this could be...doesn't look natural to me


www.boomslanger.com...
www.boomslanger.com...





[edit on 25-1-2009 by easynow]

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Hey there. This may be true, yet I have yet to see that user define clearly what they believe to be ETs (from other worlds/galaxies/dimensions).

I have however seen this user debunk just about everything UFO or ET related. I will question everyone and everything whenever I feel the need to understand what is being put up for suggestion.

I still have yet to find a post where that poster talks about disclosure of the mentioned topics (such as artifacts and ruins on the moon). That poster to my observation 99% of the time debunks what is clearly in front of him/her. Why?

Or is this poster just here to sway audiences away from probable (and real in my opinion) existence of ETs/UFOs that have been around a lot longer than all of our lifespans togeather.

If an anonymous poster wants to make a statement, who is anyone to dismiss them like that? Afterall if anonymous posting is just that, you can't discard them due to their anonymousness. This is what bought my attention to the initial question at that poster, if he/she knows it all - then what are they here for?

wZn

[SNIP]

Back on topic: There are/were domes on the moon (as well as ruins and artifacts), and may of the pictures on this thread proove this. The question is why are 'they' so determined not to show these? Perhaps it will leave disinfo people out of a job?

wZn


Mod Edit: NO PERSONAL INSULTS PLEASE!

[edit on 26-1-2009 by Gemwolf]

reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow


More importantly why build a dome on the moon. Thats stupid when you can dig into the moon get protection from the sun. And its much easier for heating purposes and well as creating an artificial environment. Putting a dome on the moon would be a waist of time and energy.

PLEASE STAY FOCUSSED ON THE TOPIC!

Also note:
Civility and Decorum are Required

Thank you.

Originally posted by easynow

ventilation shaft or lookout post ?

www.boomslanger.com...

I think this example is an example of pushed pareidolia.
Beeing an extraordinary claim, it have to be much more undeniable and clear. But it isn't. More, it contains mistakes.

Here is a much more common solution:



Note: because image is truncated, see here : img177.imageshack.us...


So, it may very well be some kind of valley (downhill), not necessary circular as i draw it. It's slope (angle) may be above the angle of the sunlight, so right part of the valley is in shadow.
The ridge in the right of the image cast shadow to the left.
There, the two shadows may combine, giving the result.

This is NOT an extraordinary claim. So the anomaly may be with good probability just in our head, if we search them.

In fact, we just need more information, more pictures, from different angles, from different light angles etc.





[edit on 26/1/09 by depthoffield]


[edit on 26/1/09 by depthoffield]

reply to post by ArMaP


Thanks ArMaP! Check out the sun's direction in your image below:



It is from the NE direction. So that 'crater' seems to be convex and not a concave shape, as the sun's reflection is on the Eastern side. So is it dome shaped?

In a previous post, internos had very nicely brought out an animation that shows the shiny part to be another crater within the bigger one. This is a good optical illusion if ever there was one!!

Cheers!

Originally posted by dragonridr
More importantly why build a dome on the moon. Thats stupid when you can dig into the moon get protection from the sun. And its much easier for heating purposes and well as creating an artificial environment. Putting a dome on the moon would be a waist of time and energy.

You got TWO STARS for this post? Gee I really get a kick out of the researchers here working so hard to 'deny ignorance' when a simple hunt around LPI can tell you so much...

A waste of time? Really?

LUNAR AND MARTIAN FIBERGLASS AS A VERSATILE FAMILY
OF ISRU VALUE-ADDED PRODUCTS

by Gary "ROD" Rodriguez, Systems Architect, sysRAND Corporation

Lunar Regolith consists principally of silicates, in some cases as volcanic or impact glasses. We continue to contend that silicon is more versatile in application than all of the other Lunar available elements combined and shouldn't end up in Lunar slag heaps and instead should be the fundamental building block for a wide range of value-added products in a CisLunar economy. Fabrication of silicate glasses are conventional industrial processes and anticipated tensile strength of glass made under hard vacuum is an order of magnitude greater than glass produced in atmosphere containing water vapor.

The logic employed in our reasoning includes the fact that any In Situ Resource Utilization (ISRU) effort is going to yield copious masses of silicon oxides which can be used in bulk as conventional glass products or, after further separation, can be synthesized as Silicon and Silicon- Carbide Fullerenes for more exotic applications. Additionally, mechanical wrapping of Silicon Webbing could prove to be more practical and durable and a lot less brittle than attempting large scale hot glass molding of structural components.

Identified fuel production ISRU efforts yield partially heated masses of metal oxides as waste byproduct – rich in silicates and metal oxides useful in bulk as conventional glass products. Fiberglass manufacturing increases effectiveness of prior ISRU fuel production by taking advantage of mineral benefaction and elevated process exit temperatures. The resulting structures would be spheres and cylinders with various configurations that could apply to human support systems, along with structures useable as storage tanks for the very Oxygen liberated in ISRU applications.

ISRU can manufacture more than fuels: even spacecraft are feasibly and affordably manufactured on Moon based upon fiberglass "tankage" integrated with fiberglass keels. Second generation structural components may take advantage of Silicon Nanotubes for additional composite strength. Diverse products for human systems support are manufacturable in-situ using glass fibers and fabrics, and CNC-type programmable manufacturing delivering state-of-the-art flexibility of remote design and parts manufacture. These concepts suggest extensibility and evolutionary capability derived when machining tool parts from fiberglass.

Contemporary Terrestrial industrial composite fiber products range from pressure vessels to lightweight sporting goods. A large number of products related to human systems support can similarly be manufactured in-situ using fiber fabric made from lunar silicate glass. Building structures using spun glass would be similar to those currently employed by Raytheon Aircraft or Scaled Composites to build composite aircraft. Pressure containers, structural components, woven fiberglass fabrics, molded and machined solid objects, glass fiber and filament are each large classes of value-added products.

Now there you have it in BLACK AND WHITE from a symposium paper (this is merely the ABSTRACT) on Lunar Colonization from LPI (Lunar and Planetary Institute) the guys who are planning the current return to the Moon and Mars initiatives.

Get your heads out of youtube or whereever else you have them stuck and try just a little real research before shooting from the hip.

As to Internos... I too would like a definative answer on where he stands because when I first met him at the beginning he seemed 'gung ho' on the believer side... but lately it appears he has become a more hard core debunker... *snip*

So I for one, as a friend, would like to know where he stands publicly on this issue without it resorting to name calling and personal attack

How about it Internos? We love ya but we need to know


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Mod Edit: Off topic comment snipped. Discuss the issues, not the Member, please.

[edit on 1/26/2009 by Badge01]

NASA fiberglass portable inflatable Moon houses



From Jack Arneson - Pegasus Researcher at Boomslanger.com Jack is ex military and an image analysist



The two objects on the right and left are found near Tsiolkowsky Crater

Original Hi-Res image here AS15-94-12741H

Originally posted by zorgon

From Jack Arneson - Pegasus Researcher at Boomslanger.com Jack is ex military and an image analysist

The two objects on the right and left are found near Tsiolkowsky Crater

Original Hi-Res image here AS15-94-12741H

this is ridiculous!
Why putting scratches on the film as "evidence" for lunar "misteries"?
This has to go to the comic channel.
Are you laugh at us, Zorgon?