Whats going on at yellowstone?

see Foxe with graph and yellow outline on p.68

for the "dip"

Does anyone find it a bit odd that theres quakes and volcano's popping off all over the globe right now? Do a little Google news search, theres like 2 or 3 volcano's erupting in different regions within the past few days. The most recent, Russia. USGS just reported quakes in Chile (5.8), Alaska (4.3), and not to mention, all the quakes across the whole US in just the last 3 weeks. Add all those together with the volcano's erupting and Yellowstone.

Somethings going on, and I don't think its a party.

I am almost 100% positive that most of the shakes on the live camera is wind related.

If the ground was shaking THAT much, do you think the tourists would still be out there for each Old Faithful eruption? (Tourists not the scientists)

Some of the stronger ones? Yeah, maybe. Most of it is just wind (camera shaking, not the graphs)



As for my previous post: I haven't seen that on any other graph or date during this series of events. It stood out to me like a sore thumb. Kind of a precursor of more to come. It was a long and fairly strong (strong compared to what we have been getting) movement, but nothing "oh my god" major. Just a 'raise of the eyebrow' sort of deal here...

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I don't know if it's always like this or not - here's a good visual though

hisz.rsoe.hu...〈=eng

and another biggie in calif towards yellowstone
meanwhile utah is stuck again at 246 - and the graphs show more

and whoa - theres a solid red dip on near 20:15

www.quake.utah.edu...

I posted a lot of links tru, do you mean the ones on page 61??

Im not sure what you are asking. Im sorry.

reply to post by Foxe


I don't think it's wind - but we had the same question arise last time this happened on the 29th

it's on all the graphs - just stronger at mary lake

and by now if they haven't protected these against false wind readings they deserve a spanking - because the last harmonics set off a volcano icon on RSOE so it's probably not wind.

but this is still calmer than 29th

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I'm talking about the web camera, NOT the harmonic reading seismic sensors.

The Web Camera is shaking a lot and people have several times said its the earthquakes. I'm just pointing out, that the camera isn't likely shaking because of quakes.

Here is a little bit of info to help those of us not in the know to better understand the seimographs.





And a little bit of info regarding seismicity leading up to Mt St Helen's eruption someone was asking about. Harmonic tremors are the ones that tell us magma and/or gases are moving underground.

PRECURSOR EVENTS

In 1980, the University of Washington had just completed the establishment of a system of seismometers to help monitor the Cascade volcanoes. The computer feeds for the station went into operation on March 1. The first indications of a major problem came on March 20, when a 4.2 magnitude earthquake was recorded beneath Mt. St. Helens. Three days later another 4.0 M was recorded, and that evening the earthquakes began occurring in swarms centered directly beneath the volcano, at a rate of about 15 per hour. By March 25, magnitude 4 events were shaking Mt. St. Helens at a rate of about 3 per hour. On the same day, several overflights revealed new fractures on the glacier surfaces and a number of avalanches and rockfalls.

In early afternoon on March 27, a loud explosion was heard from the direction of Mt. St. Helens. Although the volcano was shrouded in clouds, a summit eruption was verified by a news team from the Vancouver Columbian. As they circled the summit in an airplane, they spotted a dense column of ash rising through the clouds to a height of about 2000 m. As the weather cleared later in the day, a new crater was visible, with a diameter of about 70 m, and snow on the summit area was covered by a thin veneer of dark ash. The summit eruption on March 27 was typical of several small eruptions that would occur through April and early May. None of these eruptions were magmatic in character, but instead they were steam eruptions generated by the heating of groundwater above a rising plug of magma that had invaded the central conduit of the volcano.

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At 12:36 p.m. on March 27, at least one but possibly two nearly simultaneous phreatic eruptions (exploding groundwater-derived steam) ejected and smashed rock from within the old summit crater, excavating a new crater 250 feet (76 m) wide[5] and sending an ash column about 7,000 feet (2,100 m) into the air.[7] By this date, a 16,000-foot (4,900 m) long, east-trending fracture system had also developed across the summit area.[8] This was followed by more earthquake storms and a series of steam explosions that sent ash 10,000 to 11,000 feet (3,000 to 3,400 m) above their vent.[5] Most of this ash fell within 3 to 12 miles (5 to 20 km) from its vent, but some was carried as far as 150 miles (240 km) south to Bend, Oregon, and 285 miles (460 km) east to Spokane, Washington.[9]

A second, new crater and a blue flame was observed on March 29.[10][9] The flame was visibly emitted from both craters and was probably created by burning gases. Static electricity generated from ash clouds rolling down the mountain sent out lightning bolts that were up to two miles (3 km) long.[9] Ninety-three separate outbursts were reported on March 30,[9] and increasingly strong harmonic tremors were first detected on April 1, alarming geologists and prompting Governor Dixy Lee Ray to declare a state of emergency on April 3

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there was one graph of mt. st. helens - someone - I think it was you - was showing harmonics and there was a gap on the st. helens example - I'll go back and look for it.

what do you think of the yellow outlined dip on p. 68 by foxe?

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ahhh - the camera - yep - very possible

still trying to find you the similar thing from yesterday to your yellow outline

Keep watch people, I'm going to town for some food stuffs.

Oh and, you only really need to start worrying when you hear a really loud bang...


Also a comment: YML is still harmonic, most certainly. LKWY is maybe... I can't tell, its kind of weak but definitely not quiet.

I've made a simple 3d fly-by animation (not time-lapse) of my previous 3d representation of the location of the last 250 earthquakes occurred below Yellowstone lake. North is on top-right of the image (where the two long gray-black cylinders are). Spheres are earthquake locations. The brighter they are, the stronger is the EQ magnitude:

img523.imageshack.us...

YPP went harmonic too.

Would the activity in and around Puerto Rico also be considered a "swarm"?
Montserrat collapsed in July: Montserrat volcano blasts ash into sky

Take a look at this image:

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That area has been doing that pretty steady.
I think of a swarm as something that appears rapidly and intensely.
A perspective of time?

Originally posted by trusername
because the last harmonics set off a volcano icon on RSOE so it's probably not wind

Can you explain what RSOE is? And what particular location are you speaking of?

Originally posted by ressiv
YPP went harmonic too.

Can you provide a source? If you guys are seeing the harmonic signature in the seismographs could you please be so kind as to post the images and mark the area of concern for the rest of us? If the harmonic signature is present that is indeed a very significant thing.

Thanks in advance.

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hisz.rsoe.hu...
Hope this helps

Originally posted by Indy

Originally posted by trusername
because the last harmonics set off a volcano icon on RSOE so it's probably not wind

Can you explain what RSOE is? And what particular location are you speaking of?

Originally posted by ressiv
YPP went harmonic too.

Can you provide a source? If you guys are seeing the harmonic signature in the seismographs could you please be so kind as to post the images and mark the area of concern for the rest of us? If the harmonic signature is present that is indeed a very significant thing.

Thanks in advance.

Here is the YPP chart link:

YPP Live Seismograph

We got yelled at for posting really big graphs. I think YPP definitely shows noise, but NOTHING like all of them did on the 29th. Then it was crazy with some of them going "Pollock". Definitely some "noise" in the system throughout the park right now though. Light winds, but I still DO NOT beleive it is wind. Wind would be showing up all the time.

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We are watching these helio's at yellowstone

www.quake.utah.edu...

www.quake.utah.edu...

www.quake.utah.edu...

Also this to see if it lists yellowstone as a volcanic event again....

hisz.rsoe.hu...???=eng&lang=eng

Enjoy!

ha - I went to ATS home page briefly and the world is coming to an end - this thread is way down on the page although #1 for the week - but the rest of the world is hell in a handbasket today - geez

Yes - YML looks very harmonic right now (YPP and YMR picking up on it too) - and are you watching the larger calif quakes move ever closer to Yellowstone? just had another one

hisz.rsoe.hu...