Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by coffeesniffer


That's very interesting, you should post that also at quake Watch.

reply to post by coffeesniffer


Let me start by stating that the idea that the moon causes earthquakes is not mine. I only applied it to Yellowstone, and I expanded the idea and developed a hypothesis. Applied Science. The hypothesis was based on scientific research which found the data supported a statistical argument that the moon is having a direct influence on earthquakes. I wasn't the first to observe the patterns of the full moon and new moon. Other geologists have observed this pattern, and a couple of geologists have observed that volcanoes react to the cycle. I'll let you all search for the information, I won't link. What I did was take the research and applied it to the first swarm on Boxing Day 2008. Then I applied that to make a prediction for January 2010. I am amazed no one at the YVO was interested when the second largest swarm followed the same pattern. The pattern- the cycle of the moon, and the cycle of the earth around the sun. I'm not going to bother to dig for the information now, but if you check the start of the January swarm, and then check the eclipse that happened in January, you'll find something amazing. Or coincidental, as those who can't see the obvious would claim. The swarm happen within a couple hours I think, after the last of the shadow escaped the earth's surface.

Coincidence. No. If the moon causes the tides, and if the moon can cause earthquakes, then why can't it affect a magma chamber. The gravitational pull on the Moon of Io from Jupiter causes ejections of molten material into space from Io's volcanoes. Our moon is in an intrical dance with we on earth. You cannot understand the evolution of the earth if you can't understand how much the moon has determined our fortune. Our destiny. Without a moon, the earth would have evolved differently, and, there would be a much more montone evolution. Without the moon, the planet may be stagnant. Billions of years ago the moon was much closer and had a much more dramatic affect on the planet. The moon could be the key for life on this planet. It helps create the ebb and flow of everything. The beating of our collective heart. The pulsing of the tides helps to manifest an enviroment which constantly shifts allowing a diversity of life to exist, flourish, over populated and then become food for the next lifeform to fill in the gap. If you want to understand this principal, think of the tides in the Bay of Fundy. Each creature exploits the changing landscape. The moon is largely ignored when we think of the evolution of our earth. Without it, our world would be vastly different. And possibly, inhospital.

Now here comes the rant. It's been four years. Four years since I set out on my journey. I've tried everything I can think of to spread my ideas. It's not just the moon. It's the dynamic. I've found the key. It's the volcanoes. Without them, the world would be a dead place. As I dug in my garden and turned the soil, I realize that volcanoes were doing the same thing. Turning the soil. My destructive shovelling, worms, soil, vegetation, decomosing vegetation, rocks, molds, bacteria, viruses, all, were being churned back into the earth to start the cycle all over again. I was a volcano. Cool... Or at least, I was understanding how the changing cycles of life and land mix and morph to create the next enviroment. I guess the easy answer is that without change, there would be nothing. Without a moon, without a tilted wobbly planet, it would be uniform, uniformally stagnant, uniformally stagnant and dead.

I see it all. My hypothesis, VME, or Volcanic Mass Ejections, is the Rosetta Stone which links the evolution of our planet, our moon, and life on the planet. It's the interplay between the earth and sun and moon. The other planets have their influences, but the key is these three bodies. My volcanoes, they're mine because I'm the only one on the planet who understands it all, my volcanoes created the moon. Early earth had many Mass Ejections. The earth's volcanoes created the land forms, or continents, and the oceans. My moon squeezed and pulled the earth creating massive tides which stirred the pot of life. The heating and cooling of the earth caused ice ages and warm periods. The cycles started. The ice ages produced massive sheets of ice which covered the continents. Then just short of 500 million years ago, when the earth had mellowed greatly, (less eruptions and a more stable climate) a great eruption happened. The water, and a massive hot spot under which is now called North America, blew pieces of the continent into orbit. The massive eruption caused one of the five mass extinction events. This was followed by other massive ejections. This dramatic cycle has been going on since the beginings of our planet and have shaped our history. Toba. This relatively small eruption had direct effects on our evolution. The extinction event nearly had our species as one of it's causualties. But the few humans to survive were different than those that perished. They were able to adapt. Thier DNA is in all of us. The code and plan to make a human, also had the function to allow us to adapt and reshape the earth in almost any way we dreamed. During the Toba event, we learn that the earth was an every changing place, and if we were to survive and prosper, we needed to understand that change and prepare for it. Once we understood how things changed, we were able to exploit it's power and use it for our own benefit. We began to be the masters of our destiny. This allow us to become the most dominant species on the planet.

So why do I feel like the most helpless thing on the planet? Because I am impotent. I can see the whole damn thing unfold whenever I choose. But it's truly my vision soley. You may see parts, You may have some idea about what I'm talking about, but you can't see it all until you all listen. Then all the pieces of the puzzle can be pulled together to form a complete story. Once it's studied, understoood, and then actualized in a visual form, then it will be easy to see they way everthing works together in a cycle. A continuing cycle. I am saddened, frustrated and bewildered because I can't share this wonderful idea with everyone. I don't want to be selfish, I want everyone to see the beauty and magnificence of our corner of the universe. When you understand this cycle, you begin to see where and how everything fits together and relates to that's passed and that which is still to come. I want to share this because it's the truth and it's wonderful. It could help change the world and make it a better place. At least that's my wish.

Now for a prayer. Please don't respond to this section, it's between me and, and, well there's no real good way to describe God. Other than to say God. Don't advise me on the path to God. I am not a follower of any faith. I have chosen my own path. In my prayer, I will not ask God for divine intervention. I don't believe a prayer should be a request. It should be a conversation where questions are to be asked and where answers may be found in the excercise. The conversation allows you to see. The answer is a vision.

God, why did you allow me this vision if I am unable to share it? You know I've tried my best to seek redemption and find the truth. You know I'm only trying to do the right thing and that accept that I may fail and have to try again. God it's been four years. You know I had no patience at the start of this and now I've learned to realize that all things take time. But please, please, tell me it's been long enough. I really don't want to ask for anything. I really don't. But hell I'm a liar. Because deep in my heart I want this part of the process to be over. Please no more waiting. Please. I confess I am weak. I confess I fail because I'm weak. But I'm trying to be strong. I'm trying to be patient and move on. Carry on. It's just hard. The simple question is why God. Why? Why give me this great vision if I am unable to share it? If that's you God, talking with that little voice in the back of my head, I know you're saying to hold on and be patient. But it's hard, and I'm real tired. Real tired. God, I'm a liar. I am asking for something. Something big. Please let somone with some real influence take this football from me. I want to pass the ball. I'll assist with the goal, but the tackles are dragging me down. I've done the hard part. I studied and put the clues together. I racked my brains and raised the questions and sought the answers. I've re-entered society and tried to share the knowledge that my suffering allowed. I want to give back. And yes I know that they hurt me. I know they hurt me so bad that I'll never heal... But I forgive them because I understand. I understand because I pray to you. I know I've hurt others. I don't want forgiveness. I want to prove that I've learned and that I will do better. I can't forgive myself. Because I never want to make the same mistakes again. I will always remember but I cannot forget it in any way. I want redemption God. I want the suffering not to be in vain. Between you and me, we both know I'm right. But in case I'm misguided, help me find the mistake and I'll forget about my ideas and get on to doing other works for you. I'm sure I could be helping more people if I wasn't off on this wild goose chase. If that's what it is. I'm sure I would be a better father, a better friend if I could stop running around in circles chasing my tail. If that's what this is. I'm trying to share everything I have God. My time, my body and my mind are all engaged in this effort. You know I've prayed to you every minute of my life. Even when I didn't believe. I've tried every moment of my life to understand my life and find my purpose and understand everything and how it all fits together. I've been a philosopher. Nothing but. Even during the most mundane task I've been trying to discover how it all fits together. The good, the bad and the ugly. Please God. Please. You know I have the vision and I'll keep telling my story as long as it takes, but I'm human. I got lots of flaws. And questions. I'm ignorant. Like now instance, is this story going to change that one person, who will then tell another, and then tell another. Until one of those people is a scientist who can think outside the box. Or a young filmaker who puts my ideas into a form that will gain a large audience and start a substantive debate. I would like to even engage those that believe in the bible that at least one the story is almost exactly accurate and the that science could prove the destruction of the city of Soddom and Gommorah is true. Is that you God talking when I realize that science and religion need to reunite. Hawking says that you don't need a God to start the Universe. That it can be all accounted for scientifically. That may be true. But science cannot prove that you don't exist. I know it's hard to prove a negative. But that doesn't change the fact that Hawking cannot say there is no God in absolute terms. That's why I'm agnostic. Until we get on the right path, I will always wonder if I'm doing the right thing and will never take up a faith that has no ability to question the validity of those beliefs.

God I'm sorry for talking so much. My family thought it was hard being around me and called me motor mouth. They have no idea how much they spared when I am in solitute talking to you. Compared with you, they had it easy. God I'll do what you want. Even if it's to wait. Which at this point is one of the few things I'm sure about. I'm I'll be waiting for some time yet. I tried to dismiss my ideas the other day, you know it. You know I would let go of it all if I could. But I got tripped up by the math and logic. What? Am I to dismiss the math and logic, those are the things that helped me understand right and wrong. Truth and disception. I can't seperate those accepts any more. They're the only things keeping me sane and on the right track.


I was just interrupted there for a moment. Had to stop and talk to a visitor at my door. Was that you talking God? It was my friend who said that my neighbours and I could borrow his truck on the weekend if we wanted to go get some loads of manure for the garden.

God you know I'm a rebel. And rebellion is sometimes a good thing. But it's hard always opposing things that are wrong but are entrenched in our society. I understand the function. Rebellion can lead to a change in a way of thinking about the world. I'd lead the rebellion. I'll even stand if it's in vain. Please don't let it be in vain.

Well, I could go on. But life beckons me. Beckons me to do all the little things that need doing. And the bigger things which are my personal burdens. This one isn't about me God and we know it. This is a discovery, a vision that needs to be shared by everyone willing to listen and see what's right in front of them. Everywhere. Nothing is in isolation. We are connected to everything and there is no way to seperate out the moon and sun and volcanoes from our existence. There would be no us if it were not for the Phenoix. Without the firey rebirth and death of the land, there would be no new garden. There would be no cycle. No us. And without me God, there'd be no you. I know you'll accept this as humble.

God I am meek. But the vision is not. If there is truth in my words, please give me a voice that can stretch beyond my abilities and my limitations. Please help me find the path that gives the story real life. Open the door. Open the window. Part the clouds. Whatever you choose. I am sorry for being a hypocrate, but I needs to ask you, please, please, can we take the next step.

I bet if you'd only had an old timey answering machine, the beep would have went off long ago. Bye for now.

Magnitude 4.6
Date-Time Sunday, October 24, 2010 at 17:43:59 UTC
Sunday, October 24, 2010 at 11:43:59 AM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 43.626°N, 110.331°W
Depth 5 km (3.1 miles) set by location program
Region WYOMING
Distances 40 km (25 miles) ENE of Jackson, Wyoming
60 km (35 miles) W of Dubois, Wyoming
95 km (60 miles) NNW of Pinedale, Wyoming
530 km (330 miles) WNW of CHEYENNE, Wyoming

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 3.3 km (2.1 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters NST= 81, Nph= 86, Dmin=39 km, Rmss=1.48 sec, Gp= 32°,
M-type=body wave magnitude (Mb), Version=6
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)


Event ID us2010cua6

Well that was certainly a healthy quake.
Wonder if they felt that one in the park?

Am I right? A real major eruption of Yellowstone would destroy most of America.

reply to post by Robin Marks


unfortunatly you fail to see the amazingly broad spectrum of intelligences on ATS. I for one completely understand a potential cyclical nature of this universal structure. i do see inconsistancys as being a major factor in the varitey of evolved life. Although the purpose of an organism seems to be survival through reproduction... methods of survival will switch from reproductivity to longevity. With the amazing power weilded by man.... it take a long time to move out of the self destruction zone... on a personal level.

Do not let your spite for this world and your own suffering force your potentially infinite mind into the small box occupied by inevitible death.

reply to post by windwaker
Well,. if in fact the entire caldera became unstable enough to unzip all the rim, and expel most of the magma in the chamber,. then yes. most of the country would suffer great destruction in stages.
BUT,... there certainly is no reason to be concerned of that, currently ''

reply to post by Robin Marks


Just keep your eyes on thoses two beautiful children you have, Don.t scare them. Just love them and they will be fine.
I think you have good sense in your thoughts,

reply to post by crappiekat


Let's not talk about me for a moment. The activity south of Yellowstone over the last fews months has been interesting. This is just a hunch, but I think the activity may be a recharging of the magma chamber. It could be an injection as was the case in 2004. The area above the chamber has been relatively quiet and this should be the case because the two major swarms released a great deal of pressure.

From my observations, the moon's influence seems to greastest as it passes and the gravitational forces start returning to more average levels. With this lastest full moon, there has been volcanic and earthquake activity in Indonesia.

And now for the "me" part.

Dont' worry about me scaring my kids. Let me tell you about my youngest. He is only seven years old but already thinks independantly. I've told him my theories on the moon and giant volcanoes. He thinks that Hudson was more likely an asteroid than my volcano. And he thinks that the moon was formed when another planet smashed into the earth. In both cases I've explained my ideas and given him the convention wisdom and thinking. For whatever reason, my son sides with the consensus and rejects my hypothesis.

If any of my thoughts affected my son negatively and was troubling him, I would immediately check myself in before I get carried away. My older son is an adult and has learned just to accept my different way of looking things. He is a stable and mature adult. I did well despite being crazy.

I really don't want this to be about me. It's about volcanoes. My writing here and documenting my thoughts can serve a purpose even if I'm wrong about giant volcanoes forming the moon and such. These outbursts of thought can be a recorded of a man suffering a persistant delusion. Usually my crazy thoughts evaporate after a few weeks or months, not this one. So if I can't help further human understanding of geology, maybe I can give insight into the disturbed mind. My obsession is Yellowstone Hot Spots. And no matter how I try to disprove and deny my ideas, my delusion maintains itself because it is subtle. I may be only a fraction of a degree off of reality. That difference may enough to sustain this wild idea.

If you watch the Terminator, the orginal 1984 flick, the psychologist explains that Kyle Reese is "a loon" and says, " most paranoid delusions are intricate, but...".

Is that what's happenind to me? This is all just a clever deception meant to avoid reality, and meant to feed a hungery, sick ego. That's it.

Maybe if nothing else, these writings will promote an understanding of mental illness and document the course of one man's delusion and obsession.

Well make that obsessions. Yellowstone, the moon, giant volcanoes, swarm earthquakes, Toba, evolution, nature, and let's not forget my kid's, because without them I wouldn't exist to bother you all with my thoughts.


And if I am bother you all, then someone should write a post that explains that you shouldn't encourage me or reply so that I may fade away. Then you all can give it lots of stars so that it may sink into my thick skull.

Oh and by the way, I don't underestimate you all on this thread. In fact, I have a dim hope that someone takes my ideas and runs with them. Or that one of you point the "right person" to this thread and they may find something valid within.

Even if that person is a shrink.

Hmmmmmm.....Yellowstone showing some activity. I realize the larger one is outside the park, but the most recent two seem closer. Check this thumbnail out:

LINK

USGSOkay, USGS just listed it as a 3.3 near, but not in the park:

Magnitude 3.3
Date-Time Tuesday, October 26, 2010 at 04:12:47 UTC
Monday, October 25, 2010 at 10:12:47 PM at epicenter

Location 43.625°N, 110.483°W
Depth 3.8 km (2.4 miles)
Region WYOMING
Distances 28 km (17 miles) E (81°) from Teton Village, WY
28 km (18 miles) NE (54°) from Jackson, WY
31 km (19 miles) ENE (70°) from Moose Wilson Road, WY
340 km (211 miles) NNE (20°) from Salt Lake City, UT

Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 5.7 km (3.5 miles); depth +/- 1.2 km (0.7 miles)
Parameters NST=107, Nph=120, Dmin=10 km, Rmss=0.89 sec, Gp= 40°,
M-type=local magnitude (ML), Version=4
Source U.S. Geological Survey, National Earthquake Information Center:
World Data Center for Seismology, Denver

Event ID usa00044j4

just happened to look at the animation for YS

pretty interesting last couple of days...starts in one area and moves west.

quake.utah.edu...

Ahh, she awakens again.

Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
AS to the title of this thread....
nothing
Nothing is going on at Yellowstone.
But... come back in October.

Hey folks
Just a little toot of my own horn here
Look at Yellowstone for October so far.
Besides all the 2. and below since I posted this on 3/4/2010
we have a 3.3,3.9, 4.4
OMG.. I had made a prediction
I know,... its a stretch but I will take it

Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy

I know,... its a stretch but I will take it

Mm, a 31.75 mile stretch as all three of those are by Jackson Hole and the closest is that distance from the edge of the Park, but yeh, it is close enough for Jazz.

Cumulative for YNP for October 2010 showing a bit of bunching at month end.

Originally posted by PuterMan

Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy

I know,... its a stretch but I will take it

it is close enough for Jazz.

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Ha Ha
OMG
I just got that
when I first read that I thought you were talking about another poster.
Duh,.

Can anyone shed light on this?

HIGH ALERT YELLOWSTONE TO APPALACHIAN EVENT 7:00am MST 11/02

LINK

Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron
Can anyone shed light on this?

HIGH ALERT YELLOWSTONE TO APPALACHIAN EVENT 7:00am MST 11/02

LINK

you need to tell us more about it then somebody can help but so far from what iv seen its normal for ys

reply to post by alysha.angel


All I know is what I posted and this: Eagle, Alaska to New Hope, South Carolina is 4323 miles. Took 20 minutes. That's 216.15 miles per minute or 12,969 miles/hour.

Some sort of a seismic wave?