Whats going on at yellowstone?

recently there was some info posted here about the fracking the energy companies were doing in the yellowstone vicinity. The people of montana and wyoming were getting Methane in their well water.
Well, now they did the same thing in Pennsylvania and people there are having the same issue.
Could be rather interesting if the methane got into the Mammoth springs area of Yellowstone..

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Here's a new report of more combustable water due to gas drilling.

www.cnn.com.../video/us/2010/09/02/wv.water.lights.on.fire.wdtv

Here's a new study which shows a tentative link between all major volcanic hot spots. It supports my hypothesis that volcanic activity is not regionally isolated. They claim pulses affect major hot spots. Could these pulses be from tidal influences? Extreme tidal pressures cause volcanic activity on Jupiter's moon Io.

news.discovery.com...=rssnws1

I believe our moon was as a result of a Volcanic Mass Ejection. (I'm the only person in the world to believe that there are such things as Volcanic Mass Ejections) Could Mars's two irregular moons be from volcanic eruptions. Scientists now believe that Mars's closest moon was not a stray asteroid caught by it's gravity. The moon's compostion suggests otherwise. And how could a planet without an atmosphere snag a roaming body?

news.discovery.com...=rssnws1

Sorry, just pissed off at the world for ignoring me. Carry on.

Step one. Read the following article.

www.uwgb.edu...

Step two. Look at this map.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Step three. On Google Earth, use the ruler and place your first point at Sentry Island in western Hudson Bay.


61deg. 09' 38.73" N 93deg. 52' 01.08" W

Place the next point in the Altantic Ocean mountain range found at coordinates,


35deg. 50' 14.09" N 51deg. 30' 46.17" W

Step four. Realize that center of Nastapoka arc, Belcher Islands, Manicougan Crater, the Gulf of St Lawerence, and a group of volcanoes in the Atlantic all line up. The line spilts Manicougan Crater into two perfect semi-circles. In the article I refered to in Step one, it mentions three land formations in Canada and here I have shown that they are in perfect alignment.

Step five. Not the direction of the line. North by Northwest. North by Northwest has been the predominate direction of the tetonic movement of the North American Plate over the last few hundred million years or so.

Step six. Look at the map in Step two. Note the intersecting circles in Hudson's Bay, which align perfectly with the others, and which also show ground zero. Note the joined ground zeros are running North by Northwest. Together, Hudson Bay, Manicougan and The Gulf of St Lawerence form a chain of caldera. Each ground zero is, when using the rate of tectonic movement, in the right place, at the right time. It real not complex math.

Step seven. Give your head a shake.


If your just out hear to read and entertain yourself, this is not directed toward you. This is damned simple stuff. Those of you that can, should be grasping this and seeing the obvious. This is a damned amazing discovery I've made and you can't see it. Cause if you did, you'd be doing everything you could to promote this and find a damned answer. I don't even care if my hypothesis gets shot to #, I just want some freakin' closure. This isn't some grand delusion. In that article describing impact craters, it states many people have seen the circular nature to Hudson Bay and the Gulf of St. Lawerence. So I'm not seeing things that aren't there. I'm not making something up out of nothing and trying to ascribe meaning. I'm not having #ing delusions of granduer. I understand the absolute importance of what I've found and am completely and utterly frustrated by the lack of interest, investigation that I have found. Sure some people are kind and some are polite. But if you can't see it, then your stupid. Sorry. It's just that simple. There is no way these major, notable landmarks and massive formations can randomly fall in perfect alignment. It just can't be. This is no accident. I like random. But this is something I cannot tolerate as random and I have nothing but contempt for the apathy I've found when trying to get people to grasp what I'm showing them. LOOK. Don't be ashamed if you don't see it I suppose. Maybe it's like the natives not seeing Christopher Columbus's ships because they had no frame of reference. Yes the holes are gigantic and beyond our understanding of what constitutes an eruption, but they're there, so I can't ignore it and I can't get anyone to listen so what the # do I do. Yellowstone's quiet. I went mental last night with the moon and spin Google Earth around and around til I want to have myself committed. I'm not kidding. I was going to lose it last night. Lots of loony thoughts. But these god damn holes are not a delusion. I'm sick of being ignore. And this isn't some egomanical search for attention. I'd not give any care to the fact I was ignore all my life if it wasn't for the fact that I truly have something important to tell you all. And you're not #ing listening.

If you can't see it, I can't help you.

And you can't help me if you don't see it.

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Robin Robin, I have never seen you like this! I went thru all the steps and I do see what you are talking about. I had not even known about that big crater til I saw it on Google Earth. So now you need to tell me your hypothesis. I can see all those craters. What does it mean hon?

reply to post by Robin Marks
Robin, Post more info please,
Interested in your thoughts

reply to post by Robin Marks


Robin, I sincerely hope you got through whatever it was that got hold of you last night. I think you have a marvelous brain and I too would like to hear your hypothesis. Maybe right now you are smacking your head because you have been TELLING us for the past many months, but I think we need it together in one post, if you would?

I agree that in nature, there ARE no coincidences. Standing back and taking in the whole picture is a talent that most of us lack, especially on such a large scale. Yes, there are obviously craters there and I agree that a perfect alignment goes beyond 'random'. Do you think these are the result of a mass ejection? Or a building one?

You have me wondering...

I have been trying to share my discovery for the last four years. I've had a migraine for the last two days. Over the last few weeks, they have become more frequent and my efforts to relieve stress arent' working. I need someone to listen and have the whole world have a real look. Or I'm going to die from a stroke before very long. I have a mental illness and that takes everything I have, and then I have to find extra to raise my kids. I'm doing everything I can to have a stable life. But this obsession is killing me and I can't let it go. It's real, unlike my other delusions. You can see it. It exists. My rational mind cannot release it because there is no way to logically dismiss my ideas. It's math. The circles, the line, the intersecting arcs, the relationship between tetonic movent over time and distance is very precise. These are perfect arcs, intersecting and all in a perfect line.

Simple put, these craters were caused by a Volcanic Mass Ejection. Or a mega-eruption. It is a hydro-thermal explosion. The groundwater starts a chain reaction above the hot-spot plume, creating uplift, fracturing and a build up of pressure. This allows a total breech and in short time there is a catastrophic explosions.

Krakatoa exploded in this fashion. Obliterated the mountain. Santorini. Same thing.

My head's starting to hurt and I only had a moment to get out here. I'll post a few links later to my You Tube channel and there's even another ATS thread where I should direct you instead of writint here.

I'm just sick of this. I want the world to listen. I know I'm right and math doesn't lie and you all saw it.

You saw the craters. You see how they all line up like ducks in a row. I'm not the only one who has seen the arcs. It's a delusion. So it's real. And it's a real scientific discovery and I'm being dismissed and ignored and it's making me crazy and hurting my head and I want it to stop. So disprove it and i can let it go. Lots of people dismiss me but they've never disproven it. Not mathematically at least. I want the world to listen. Now. I'm losing this battle. There has been a handful of people who have tried to help me. But they have limits just like myself. I've tried to gather forces of people to carry on the work, but no one can. No respected geologist will investigate and they seem oblivious. I want to carry on with my life. And I've tried to let this go but I cannot.

Whomever wants to help finish what I started. You'll be famous. Some how. Some way. Get them to listen to me. I'm freaking losing my mind. Make a video with the circles and the lines on google earth and put it on you tube. Get others to listen. Hell, I'll understand if you feel limited, I understand all to well. But this needs to be spread like a virus but I guess I'm not a potent communicator. Or too far out there. Make a movie. Get a friend or a relative who is a computer geek to put my work in images. I can see the whole thing. It make some spectaluar visual effects. I do not know how to use programs. They frustrate me to no end. I know how to write, so I stick to writing. Of course I hate editing. Hope you can read through my many mistakes.


I'm losing my mind people. I need help. You may be thinking I need a shrink. I've tried that. I've tried everything I can think of and more. You need to see and make others see. You need to listen and get others to listen. It will only take one person who has the power of popularity to pick up the cause and others will start listening. Just one person with a degree and a platform and my ideas can see the light of day.

Ug. I should have stop writing a paragrah ago. Four years and counting and still haven't got the scientist to see what you can see. Stop robin stop.


Here's some links. I suggest you read my post throughout this thread. I've explained my hypothesis many times. And if you want to discuss it more you can go on the following thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And here's my You Tube channel. This is a simulation of an hydro-thermal eruption. I've stopped making videos. But my early ideas are all there.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.youtube.com...


I'm sick. Real sick. My migraines aren't going away and my neck feels as though two steel rods have been rammed down through my neck. I want this obsess to be goine. I am not going this for any other reason than I have to. Hopefully I can exorcise the demons. I need to get past this helplessness and isolation. The world needs to listen to me. I don't need the world's attention to fill some hole in my soul. My kids did that. I don't need anything else. These holes in Canada are not mine. I just saw them when I went looking for evidence for some crazy idea I had. I never expected to find them. And sometimes I wish I had never had the idea in the first place. It's become a curse and a suffering I do not want to bear. Once the scientists are debating why and how the craters came to be in a perfect arrangment, then I can rest and breath again and have this unwanted burden gone. I'm begging you all for help. Get the world talking about my circles so I can stop for awhile.

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Robin, I feel for you. I keep remembering the pic of you with the kids on the boat. You have a beautiful family and I understand your struggle to 'keep it together' them. You obviously know that is the most important thing and I imagine helps you carry on. Maigraines are a killer. I have only had a couple but I work in an ER and so I have seen many, many people brought down by them.

If it helps at all, I believe there are some people at least here that are listening to you. I don't have the knowledge, ability to put together some of the data/visuals you have thought of, but I really think that you have gotten enough info out there to get someone who DOES thinking about it. Just wait, a few years from now there will be a nice program on discovery about a 'what if' scenario about a mass ejection erruption! BUT...you KNOW that you have come to a point where you HAVE to pass this on and be done with it. You've done what you can and it sounds like it has become (a self proclaimed) obsession that is interfering with your ability to function. NOTHING is worth that.

Look at your beautiful kids and get back to them, knowing that you have done all you can to get the info out there.

Robin you sound like you are suffering from a psychiatric disorder I say that because of the obsessive thoughts you have and you seem to be on a treadmill of circular though patterns that keep leading you back to where you started

which doesn't take anything away from your research

I have been lead to the very trail you seem to be following and I have to admit I can't read a 600+ page thread


so please take an advil and put up a world map with the sites you are talking about on it for all of us to use that would be helpful

I am interested in your research but you need some intervention or it is all for nothing . Peace

I am wondering if John Seach would be able to help? Just a thought.

www.volcanolive.com...

I know he's a volcanologist but he may have some ideas or can direct us to someone who could help.

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I cannot dispute that fact that I have many disorders. I have admitted that freely on this site and at times described my battles. I've been diagnosed with almost everything under the soul. Intervention has done little to help me, and for the most part, it almost killed me. I have many issues, but denial is not one of them. I have many times entertained the thought that this is a complex delusion. But the math and logical stands strong. That's how I manage my illness. I admit fully that I am obsessive. I battle with addictions as well. I would gladly vanquish this obsession if the oppurtunity arose. Vulcanism and Geology are not even my favorite topics. I wold rather garden or fish. I'd rather be pulling weeds than pulling teeth.

I need intervention. I need others to take my ideas and create and sustain a debate on what the line of craters mean. I don't even care if my hypothesis is disproven and it turns out to be a string of impact craters. Although that seems unlikely considering they found no rebounding when surveying the Belcher Islands. Believe it or not I try not to obsess about Hudson Bay etc, and I only vent out here to expell my thoughts from my head. I don't drive my friends and family crazy about my discovery anymore and barely mention it. However, lately I've been frustrated beyond my ability to manage as well and I find myself very angry.

I would love to post maps and graphics and make a video. The best I got is in the links I provided above. Check out the other thread which is dormant. Look at the maps Penny and Puterman made. Of course they don't include Manicouagan and The Gulf of St. Lawrence. But at least they tried and I am grateful for that. That's why I would love someone to take my idea and realize it in images and maybe that will stir up curiousity.

I've written and visit with geologists over the last four years. They are usually polite if they answer. But they always direct you to some other research and state they don't have time for any other work except their own. I have tried John Search. But what the hey, what's the worst that can happen. So I'm ignored again. You become expert at hardship if you're faced with enough. I battle suicide and won. Well that battle's never really over. But the thoughts are a weakening insurgency which is put down with relative ease. Expect the last time I visited a doctor. She nearly had me jumping off a bridge. Thank God for my kids.

I have some questions and they have to do largely with the physics involved in such an ejection.

1)We're talking about more than 1 trillion cubic kilometers of material ejected pretty much in 1 shot, otherwise as I understand it we would probably have more of a ring than a moon.

2) We're talking about more than 1 trillion cubic kilometers traveling in huge excess of escape velocity. I would imagine the force required to eject that mass and volume at that speed would rip a planet apart. Destroy it I mean. And if not that, would there be any kind of orbital impact on planet earth, any kind of recoil?

3) Are we hypothesizing a plume, or just a giant wad of material going up...like a plug?


I am not being combative, these are honest questions.

Massive volcano 'wiped out the Neanderthals 40,000 years ago'

[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1315520/Massive-volcano-wiped-Neanderthals.html

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Not only do I welcome your sincere constructive criticism, I'm begging for it. If you could prove my hypothesis invalid, I'd be indebted to you. I would love nothing better to get these circles out of my head and let the rest of the world debate the reason for the perfect line of craters. I'm so sick of this being my little secret.

I can tell you more accurately the sequence of events that led to the Hudson Bay calderas. The eruption, or erputions that formed the moon were 4 billion years ago and I'm certain there would be no sign due to erosion and plate tectonics. There many have been several. Once there enough material to coalese into a larger object, the tug of war between the larger object and the earth would pull material one way or another. Some falling back to earth and other material smashing into the newly forming moon. And I don't think it would take as much energy to launch crust into orbit because at that time the earth's atmosphere was much thinner and nearly non-exsistent. The eruptions were forming the atmosphere and creating water. The moon formed very close to earth. That's why I don't think it was an impact. We have been led to believe that impacts make all the impact. With regards to extinction, and climate changes. We've got meteors on the brain. The culprit is not the rocks in the solar system, it's the magma under our feet. Within us. Would an explosion of collosal size blow apart the earth? Not neccessarily. The earth may in fact wobble or spin because what I theorize is like a rocket engine. You mix your fuels and you get liftoff. It may even explain the pole shifts. But I'm not certain of that.

Yes we are talking about a plume. My whole hypothesis depends on it. I have even provided information out here which counters the plume theory just to explore and maybe prove my idea is lame.

Did you try the Google Earth exercise? Did you see the craters in a perfect line? If you did, then I hope you now have these circles in your brain so you can get some to listen to you and hope it becomes your obsession. If someone can show me that these circles don't intersect perfectly and don't line up in a perfectly straight line that mirrors the direction of North Americas movent over the last few million years, I'd sure appreciate it.

Here's my simulation to show how eruption is like a rocket and ejects magma as well as launches the crust.


www.youtube.com...

I would give almost anything end this waiting. One day, someone at some point will pass this information on to someone who is in a position to research it and start the official debate. Forget about my hypothesis. These arcs, which many serious geologists once thought impact sites, all line up perfectly. That alone deserves serious scientific investigation. What gives? That's part of what I can't understand. I often wonder why this particular observation doesn't even raise eyebrows and start the questioning. What happen to curiousity? Is it dead? Are we in a time when we think we know everything? Because that's the way I've been treated by the geologists. Anyway. Migraine was still hanging on this morning. Got cleaning sprayed out all the neighbours raingutters. That helped. Only a dull pain behind the left eye now,but I still feel sick. I'm still mad as hell. I want this out of my head.

And into yours.

My kids have kept me alive and trying. A sense of humour has kept me mostly sane.

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by Robin Marks


My Dearest Robin,

One thing you must understand - Your thoughts are huge!! I get where you are going here - really I do - but, you must face the fact that what you are speaking of re-writes everything on the evolution of the earth, moon - us here now etc. - No wait - a debatable begging of Earth and our solar system formation etc.. It is a Huge Concept - and I understand what you are saying - I can in vision it! I have said this to you before, I will say it again - Your thinking is out there now, You have people thinking on it, and unfortunately, while your Huge Vision is clear in your mind now, it will take many years - for your finding to come into the history book and way of thinking that is heard and taught now. ---- like a true Master Mind/Artist of his time will not be realized until long, long after he's past. Give it all you can Robin while you see it - help them figure this out for "Their" later date realization and Scientific Breakthrough...

On a side note here - Yellowstone :-) - We have all this unusual movement in Alaska and still she rest - for the moment - I think the chamber is re-adjusting and the faults in the area are "breathing" outward of the Park. So, I have the next question - When the "Hot Spot" outlet moves outside of the Park boundary, - what will the new name be???

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Thanks again. I've been trying to think but I hit the wall hard. Still having migraines. But panic attaks stopped because I believe it is as a result of whiplash. I know my ideas are huge. That's why I tried to focus on the line. I tried to simply it. I guess there's always tommorrrrroww.

YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO OBSERVATORY MONTHLY UPDATE
Friday, October 1, 2010 12:31 PM MDT (Friday, October 1, 2010 18:31 UTC)


YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO (CAVW #1205-01-)
44°25'48" N 110°40'12" W, Summit Elevation 9203 ft (2805 m)
Current Volcano Alert Level: NORMAL
Current Aviation Color Code: GREEN

Seismic Summary: During the month of September 2010, 52 earthquakes were located in the Yellowstone National Park region. The largest event was a magnitude 2.4 on September 10 at 11:35 PM MDT, located about 8 miles northeast of Old Faithful. No earthquake swarms were recorded in September. Earthquake activity continues at background levels.

Beginning today (October 1, 2010), the University of Utah Seismograph Stations has reduced the magnitude threshold for public web posting of automated earthquake locations and magnitudes for the Yellowstone region. The new minimum magnitude threshold is M 1.5, reduced from the previous threshold of M 2.5. The new threshold value will allow more earthquake information to be rapidly released to the public and other users. This lower magnitude threshold will be tested during a trial period and may be increased again.

Small earthquakes are common in the Yellowstone region. With the reduced magnitude threshold for web posting of automated earthquake locations and magnitudes, it will no longer be practical for seismologists to continue the practice of reviewing all of this information immediately after posting. Users of these data should be aware that an unreviewed earthquake report can be significantly in error and might even be a false alarm, regardless of the reported magnitude. The University of Utah Seismograph Stations will continue its policy of including only reviewed events in its finalized earthquake catalog.

Ground Deformation Summary: Careful analysis of the Yellowstone GPS data shows that the period of accelerated Yellowstone caldera uplift, beginning in 2004, has decreased toward long-term background levels. A record of recent ground displacement can be found at:
pboweb.unavco.org...

reply to post by Robin Marks


Robin
I beliefe youre right..
but never forget that millions even billions years ago there where volcano's much bigger than we ever can imagine....
quite possible that when the earth was cooling down and the crust was much tinyer than now an meteor struckt youre place and created a giant volcano with losts of mass ejection into space.. perhaps creating the moon..since we know that in that time the moon was very close to earth...(moon is leaving us with 3cm a year)
in years we will find moore places of big volcanic events thanks to google earth and knowlidge where to look for...
ease douwn relax and be happy...:-)

Originally posted by manotick

Massive volcano 'wiped out the Neanderthals 40,000 years ago'

[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1315520/Massive-volcano-wiped-Neanderthals.html

right!
The Campi Flegrei caldera formed following two large explosive eruptions, the massive Campanian ignimbrite about 36,000 years BP, and the >40 cu km Neapolitan Yellow Tuff (NYT) about 15,000 years BP. Following eruption of the NYT a large number of eruptions have taken place from widely scattered subaerial and submarine vents. Most activity occurred during three intervals: 15,000-9500, 8600-8200, and 4800-3800 years BP. Two eruptions have occurred in historical time, one in 1158 at Solfatara and the other in 1538 that formed the Monte Nuovo cinder cone.