Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by westcoast


Looks like wind saturation, but I dunno. Keep in mind that is set to 1333 microvolts, so that is pretty "insensitive." Meaning, that might not be wind saturation. Sounds like a job for PuterMan- analysis.

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
reply to post by westcoast

 

Looks like wind saturation, but I dunno. Keep in mind that is set to 1333 microvolts, so that is pretty "insensitive." Meaning, that might not be wind saturation. Sounds like a job for PuterMan- analysis.

I agree. That's why it caught my attention, you don't usually see much 'noise' there due to the high setting.

Puterman? Engtech.....how about the sound?

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heres the local map in retrospect to YS.


and a list of all recent EQS




Update time = Thu Apr 15 18:34:34 MDT 2010
Here are the 30 most recent earthquakes and all M>3 earthquakes on this map...

MAG DATE LOCAL-TIME LAT LON DEPTH LOCATION
y/m/d h:m:s deg deg km

4.9 2010/04/15 17:59:38 41.708N 111.100W 0.5 9 km ( 5 mi) NE of Randolph, UT
1.9 2010/04/15 04:49:16 37.509N 114.723W 4.0 6 km ( 3 mi) NE of Helene, NV
3.2 2010/04/15 04:48:36 38.042N 111.105W 3.8 31 km (19 mi) ENE of Boulder, UT
0.4 2010/04/15 04:32:48 44.474N 111.049W 11.8 21 km (13 mi) SSE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.5 2010/04/15 02:25:50 44.546N 110.964W 5.2 17 km (11 mi) SE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.7 2010/04/14 21:53:42 37.188N 115.519W 4.0 37 km (23 mi) WSW of Alamo, NV
1.8 2010/04/14 21:24:37 39.433N 111.211W 2.5 24 km (15 mi) WNW of Huntington, UT
1.4 2010/04/14 16:54:53 39.435N 111.205W 0.1 24 km (15 mi) WNW of Huntington, UT
3.0 2010/04/14 16:39:52 38.052N 111.116W 0.5 31 km (19 mi) ENE of Boulder, UT
3.9 2010/04/14 12:58:45 38.029N 111.104W 3.9 31 km (19 mi) ENE of Boulder, UT
3.9 2010/04/14 12:58:45 38.029N 111.104W 3.9 31 km (19 mi) ENE of Boulder, UT
3.3 2010/04/14 11:16:14 45.327N 112.606W 10.2 13 km ( 8 mi) N of Dillon, MT
1.2 2010/04/14 11:03:52 37.538N 113.032W 3.0 13 km ( 8 mi) E of Kanarraville, UT
1.2 2010/04/14 08:09:53 44.971N 111.768W 5.4 38 km (24 mi) SSE of Virginia City, MT
1.6 2010/04/14 06:44:23 37.927N 118.238W 5.0 40 km (25 mi) SSW of Tonopah Junction, NV
1.4 2010/04/14 03:50:49 37.929N 118.228W 7.0 39 km (24 mi) SSW of Tonopah Junction, NV
1.3 2010/04/14 03:50:21 46.987N 112.725W 3.4 5 km ( 3 mi) NW of Lincoln, MT
0.1 2010/04/14 01:32:17 39.623N 110.424W 1.5 8 km ( 5 mi) NNW of Sunnyside, UT
0.4 2010/04/14 01:22:10 39.420N 111.204W 8.2 23 km (14 mi) WNW of Huntington, UT
1.7 2010/04/14 00:58:41 44.727N 111.176W 5.2 9 km ( 6 mi) NW of West Yellowstone, MT
1.3 2010/04/13 20:01:35 47.224N 112.640W 20.0 30 km (19 mi) N of Lincoln, MT
0.6 2010/04/13 16:24:57 44.745N 111.198W 12.6 12 km ( 7 mi) NW of West Yellowstone, MT
1.0 2010/04/13 14:05:40 45.361N 112.564W 10.8 17 km (11 mi) NNE of Dillon, MT
0.8 2010/04/13 13:32:05 44.475N 111.050W 8.4 21 km (13 mi) SSE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.3 2010/04/13 13:25:12 44.477N 111.042W 10.3 21 km (13 mi) SSE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.7 2010/04/13 13:21:58 44.476N 111.046W 11.0 21 km (13 mi) SSE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.6 2010/04/13 12:15:58 37.892N 118.470W 9.6 41 km (26 mi) NNE of Toms Place, CA
1.3 2010/04/13 09:50:37 39.713N 110.750W 3.9 10 km ( 6 mi) ENE of Helper, UT
0.7 2010/04/13 09:34:04 39.652N 119.785W 2.0 4 km ( 2 mi) ESE of Lemmon Valley-Golden Valley, NV
1.2 2010/04/13 03:07:45 46.904N 111.637W 10.5 35 km (22 mi) NE of Helena Valley Northeast, MT


[edit on 15/4/10 by alysha.angel]

nevermind ....

I dont know how to cancel a post once I change my mind

Casing

reply to post by westcoast


I am guessing clearance again. Sorry I don't have time today to go and get the sound files to have a listen. Maybe EngTech can oblige? Looks pretty normal though.

Today's trace looks windy. What a beaut the 4.9 in Utah shows up as! YHB.WY..EHZ.2010.106

By the way there is an HHZ channel available for the recorder as well. YHB.WY..HHZ.2010.106

Like the new avatar.

Is anyone aware of a new geyser at Yellowstone? I was looking at the real still-time images of Old Faithful and noticed what looks like to me a geyser of some sort (way in the left background).

I don't know about new, but there are many geysers in the Old Faithful area, some go off more often than others. There's one in particular that erupts sometimes behind the treeline (when viewed from the webcam) and looks really spectacular.

www.nytimes.com...

This statement in the article jumped out for me, "“Certainly the fact that the eruption is going on underneath the ice sheet is likely to have an effect on the explosivity of the volcano,” Dr. Macpherson said.

He likened the situation to putting a hot pan under the kitchen faucet — as the hot magma hits the cold water it rapidly creates steam. If the steam is contained by rock, the pressure can build up and a localized explosion can occur."

Newton said that the same forces that occur on earth, occur in the heavens as well.

The geologist in the article illustrated a eruption scenario using a cooking anology. It was a cooking mistake which led to the developement of my mega-eruption hypothesis. Except my simulation uses hot oil and water.

This type of steam explostion is called a Phreatic eruption.

en.wikipedia.org...

Note that Krakatoa is believed to have been caused when sea-water breached the magma chamber. On a small scale, the geysers of Yellowstone work in a similar fashion.

Fire and ice. Here's my simulation which I believe is more dynamic that the frying pan example in the article.

www.youtube.com...





[edit on 16-4-2010 by Robin Marks]

reply to post by westcoast

Sorry for the delay. Was traveling form Oregon to Idaho. Listened to the
sound and that stuff on the 15th from 20:00 to 22:40 UTC sounds like
snow removal noise. On the 16th at around 13:30 to 13:40 UTC sounds
like a car rolling up in a gravel turnout?? I have heard it before at YHB
and it happens a couple more times. On the 17th at 00:18 UTC that
sounds very strange and afterward there are some soft pops like the
micro quakes that have been happening there that I think might be
caused by the tidal pull on the ice covering Hebgen lake. I spoke to
the ranger there and he said often wind gets under the ice and helps
break it up. Wish I could go over there and take a look at what is
happening when some of these unusual things show up on the
seismometers

I am on vacation with friends so won't be on much for a while.

reply to post by PuterMan


Thanks for the links and for taking a look at it. Always good to get a more complete view.

My avatar pic is one I took last month. It was from my backyard...incredible rainbow!

Thank you Engtech...Now that you mention snowplow, I remember they had some snowfall this past week, must have been it!

Moving magma???

www.deseretnews.com...

reply to post by Robin Marks


You do understand that is a large report from a news paper and with statement from Bob Smith. I am quiet surprised that this article was published or allowed to be published. Nice find Robin!

What is the problem with the webcams at Yellowstone? First it was Old Faithful Geyser Live, then the Mt. Washburn webcam and now the Old Faithful Webcam. I am a newcomer, so I do not know if all three of these webcams have been down at the same time in the past. Is this normal? Yesterday morning, it seems as though every geyser within the view of the Old Faithful webcam was going off at the same time and Old Faithful was emitting horrible dark smoke. I took a screenshot of this, but have not figured out how to upload it yet.

[edit on 17-4-2010 by siyahkiz]

Originally posted by siyahkiz
What is the problem with the webcams at Yellowstone? First it was Old Faithful Geyser Live, then the Mt. Washburn webcam and now the Old Faithful Webcam. I am a newcomer, so I do not know if all three of these webcams have been down at the same time in the past. Is this normal? Yesterday morning, it seems as though every geyser within the view of the Old Faithful webcam was going off at the same time and Old Faithful was emitting horrible dark smoke. I took a screenshot of this, but have not figured out how to upload it yet.

[edit on 17-4-2010 by siyahkiz]

The streaming webcam appears to be working at the moment. (The intro page says it may work intermittently.) I can see people walking around. A darker shade is normal depending on the position of the sun and the weather, it's just the way the light is refracting off the water particles at that particular moment in time. It's not "smoke."

Yellowstone is a very popular national park, and Old Faithful is one of the most popular spots to visit inside the park. I really doubt anyone could successfully hide dangerous activity there. (That is to say, more dangerous than the park's normal state.)

There's been very little seismic activity there over the course of the past few days. (Despite the action in the intermountain west.) Don't worry about the webcams, they go down often.

Originally posted by Robin Marks
Moving magma???

www.deseretnews.com...

Ummmm......is this a credible source? Because he is saying some VERY significant things.

It is one of the most volatile sections of land in the western hemisphere, and seismic activity there has been so common in the past two years, scientists are wondering if quakes like the one Thursday are portending "the big one" of a different sort — not a massive earthquake, but a volcanic eruption in Yellowstone that would make the Mount St. Helens eruption in Washington look like a a postprandial burp.

AND:

"So, we're getting stress release in these earthquakes and displacement of just millimeters," said Robert Smith, a geophysicist at the University of Utah. The earth is always in motion and plates slip and shift under the constant pressure deep below the surface, said Smith. What is causing the recent spate of seismic shudders can't be known, he said, but he believes they might be spawned by magma building up just below the surface of the land. So, along with fueling the famous geysers, it may be setting off tremors throughout the region.

To the general reader, that may not seem significant, but to those of us who have been reading multiple statements from geologists for the past years pick up on the alarming coments mixed in amongst the other 'facts'.

I'm suprised too that this was published....I hope the writer took some statements and mixed in his own opinion, rather than the picture he was trying to paint.

reply to post by westcoast


Well my impression is that it is reliable, in the sense that it appears to be a fairly typical 'regional' style on-line newspaper and does not seem to contain sensationalist headlines on the lines of some of the main UK on-line papers such as the Daily Mail.

So if it is not given to sensationalism, and this interview has been factually reported, then I join you in some concern about the content.

Don't like to post mere impressions without facts, but...

It is starting to feel a bit creepy these days... Just a lot of global activity. IF (AND IT'S A BIG IF THAT'S MOST LIKELY THE RESULT OF CURRENT EVENTS) there were some kind of event brewing that would trigger increased volcanic activity around 2012 (for whatever reason -- planetary alignment, pole shift, brown dwarf) I imagine you'd start to feel its effects around now.

What's got me a bit spooked is that we are seeing symptoms of something...

I'd love to shrug off the whole 2012 cataclysm thing, it would be far easier to do so if I could merely say, "If we were two years from disaster, I think we'd be seeing more precursors." If we are building towards something, an argument could be made that those rumblings have started to build.

But like I said, could be my mild paranoia.

[edit on 18-4-2010 by pantangele]

[edit on 18-4-2010 by pantangele]

reply to post by westcoast


Deseret News is a well recognized news source for Utah. It is the second largest newspaper in Salt Lake City. The Salt Lake Tribune is the largest.

I believe Deseret News is the oldest, longest running newspaper in Salt Lake City.

Robert Smith from University of Utah is, I believe, a recognized authority on geophysics of the Intermountain area. As long as he was quoted correctly and in context the information provided should be taken as reputable and accurate. Of course it is only a small snippet of the entire story so should not be used to make grand conclusions. Interesting none-the-less.

Good find Robin.

reply to post by Arluk


Would you happen to have a link you could post for the Entire article?

I am obsessed with Yellowstone. And I am haunted by volcanic craters. I just saw the scariest of all.

www.universetoday.com...

Source article.

www.universetoday.com...





[edit on 18-4-2010 by Robin Marks]