Whats going on at yellowstone?

Just a portion of what news reports:


Alaskans brace for Redoubt Volcano eruption

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ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Hardware stores and auto parts shops scored a post-holiday run of business this week as Anchorage-area residents stocked up on protective eyewear and masks ahead of a possible eruption of Mount Redoubt.

Monitoring earthquakes underneath the 10,200-foot Redoubt Volcano about 100 miles southwest of Anchorage, scientists from the Alaska Volcano Observatory warned that an eruption was imminent, sending experienced Alaskans shopping for protection against a dusty shower of volcanic ash that could descend on south-central Alaska.......


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[edit on 30-1-2009 by Mushussu]

reply to post by Rumbottlerenovator


Interesting idea! Wonder if it would work? I would imagine for it to be effective it would have to cover a wider area than just the one recorder.

Would this be a sort of Tesla machine?

Originally posted by JustMike
Don't suppose you could drop a hint as to what it is? Or U2U me or something?

lol, I never said I knew what it was. I don't. But I can tell you for sure that it is not naturally occurring. And it has to do with observations of vertical and lateral channels of those events in GEE.

Also, my bet was not directed at you.

Does anyone think that this eruption in Alaska could set off a series of EQ's all long the west coast? Am I wrong to believe that this EQ in Seattle is a direct result of Redoubt?

reply to post by Hx3_1963
Hi there and thank you and PuterMan for confirming that AVO is overloaded. I for one will not attempt to access the site for the time being -- only fair that people who are in the region have a chance to learn what they really need to know.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Miss out on $1000? Have I missed something here?

Do tell!!

reply to post by TrueAmerican


I will not wager with you whether or not the caterpillars are man-made. But I will disagree with you.

On November 23rd 08 there were no caterpillers. On Nov. 24 around six hours after a major earthquake (can't find lists back more than 30 on list USGS, need help) the caterpillers begin. At first small and fainter, and continue at irregular intervals until the next siesmic event on the 25th and they disappear. And then are random and it's hard to follow because the LKWY has a gap during Christmas break.

The caperpiller signatures seem to start in August. They are smaller and more frequent. I've just breezed over the months, I got to run errands. This signals are variable. Look at the readings on Jan 15 that follow the 7.2 magnitude earthquake which started the most recent cycle and are larger and more erractic than today. If it were man made, seismic avitivity would not stop or start it's activity. If it were man made, why would it's signature be effected by an earthquake across the ocean?

At present I wanted to get some good info on the Rebout event. But they can't handle all the interest and they've limited their website. If, or when, there is an eruption at Redout, watch the caterpillers to see if they change. That will be a real test of my hypothesis. An eruption in Alaska should create waves which can effect the watertable under the park.

theinterveners.org...

When Alaska had a major EQ a while back, it changed the geysers at Yellowstone---I have a feeling this YS Swarm is part of--somewhat part of; the Redoubt Event coming.

Thing to look for is a complete end of swarms after it erupts..
If it cannot release pressure one place, it WILL find another route.

It'll be intresting to see..

reply to post by sickofitall2012


The whole earth is one organism.
One event does not mean a trigger for another per-say.
It is a collective pressure and release system.

reply to post by TrueAmerican
Darn, I misunderstood you! Sorry about that. it's one of my failings I'm afraid; I thought the Great Pipecleaner Mystery was solved. Gee I wish I had a functioning GEE...

But as you're pretty definite that's it's not natural then I'm happy enough to accept it, at least for now. It'll save me an awful lot of time writing down all the stats.

PS I know your bet wasn't aimed at me but no-one had responded, so...

reply to post by sickofitall2012
There are frequent quakes in the PNW region, and it appears that the ones nearer to coast or offshore are related to activity in and around the Juan de Fuca plate and its subduction zone with the Nth American plate, as well as some less-worrying activity on the Pacific plate side. A large event in AK might set off other quakes in the PNW or even well beyond.

As another poster said in so many words, we have to allow for the interconnectivity within this planet; it's accepted by scientists in the field that quakes in one region can even cause ones on the other side of the world, even though there is no "surface" connection between their plates or faults. This is called "remote triggering". My own feeling is that it's not so much a case of if larger quakes or volcanic events in AK could trigger ones in the PNW (or Yellowstone), but how significant the follow-on effects might be.

Well...I predicted about a week or so ago that we would have a larger quake up here in the pnw, along the WA coast. We just had a 4.5 in puget sound...36 miles deep. This has to be a fault quake. (not common)

This does not qualify as a large quake, but I think it is a pre-curser to a larger one. Keep an eye on us up here for the next day or two. I think something bigger is coming! Of course, we are all tied together, so I believe this could have an impact on YS also. We shall see!

Also....I woke up around 5:20 this morning, and the quake occured at 5:25. I don't remember feeling it, but people here are talking about how their animals went crazy. I'm thinking my dogs must have woke me up for it! Disapointed I didn't feel it.

I'll keep you posted.

reply to post by Robin Marks


Are you referring to the aspects of this site?


www.iris.edu...

Looks like there's something showing up on the NE-E side @ YS...wonder if that's Telesim's or what...kind of long period...

Been away!

OK, I've had a lot to do with work of late, and have not even looked at this site for quite some time. It'll take a while for me to catch up with everything.

But I see that Puterman has not shrunk from the task, and has created a program to extract audio files from the data. Bravo, and thanks for the efforts.

It's like I say: If you want a job done right, just leave it to someone else ;-)

I'll attempt to read and catch up from where I last posted, but having listened to the excellent audio files (thanks again Puterman), I still maintain that the so-called "pipecleaners" are man-made. And I'm even more convinced that they are being caused by a pump or motor than ever.

I still think the explanation offered by one of the experts on-scene that it's likely to be an air sampler of some sort sounds quite plausible.

You can hear the initial start-up, the brief ramp up to full speed, and then the very uniform amplitude and frequency until shut-down. It's exactly what I'd expect, and the whole excercise does show the validity of converting the seismic data to audio so that people can more easily analyze things.

The ear-brain is a fantastic system for recognizing patterns. What us tech-weenies with years of starting at o-scope traces might recognize easily or be able to interpret well visually becomes child's play for virtually anyone once it's converted to audio.

Again, Bravo, Puterman for the fine work on all of this. I also see that I've had a few messages via this board that I've also ignored over the last week(s?).

Lots to catch up on if I want to read everything I've missed.

But for now, the two instruments I've been working on for the last week and a half are finally up and running and I need to go back in and get things lined out so we can get some paying work done with them. Sorry for twisting off like that, but duty called/calls!

reply to post by Robin Marks


Man, I got to be honest. You've done some pretty neat videos. I saw all you did regarding YS, and you have some pertinent ideas. But unless you've been putting in the hundreds of hours I have now watching every waking moment of this since it started, both on GEE and on webicorders, you are going to be at somewhat of a disadvantage taking my bet on this.

Everything you just mentioned in that post is explainable due to man made events or causes. Meter recalibrations and all kinds of stuff could explain all of it. If I could offer anything to you given what I've seen so far from you, it would be to suggest you continue on the global analysis. Please do not let whims distract you when it concerns these recent pipecleaners.

And specifically, I am talking about what we've seen in the last few days. Those are specifically what I will bet anyone on. I don't know much about the ones before the swarms (Dec 2008- present), and don't care to really, because I have seen all I need to see to tell you with a high degree of confidence that these, specifically, are not natural. I don't know about the other ones (before these recent swarms), and regardless they don't affect these particular ones.

You are brand new at ATS Robin. Chill on this one, brother! But please keep us updated on your great work. We've got your back. (GOD I am a condescending A-hole! I know, but sometimes I just gotta be one. Please forgive.)

reply to post by VX-7R


Sorry if this is a one liner but in the inetersts of civility and decorum as decreed at the top of the page I have to say welcome back, we have missed your input!

One thing I have observed from watching nature: quakes and volcanoes happen

Fox News reported this morning that the last time Redoubt went off the ash spread as far as Montana leading to aircraft warnings.

Welcome back VX-7R it has been a few...

By the time you catch back up to this point you'll probley notice posts are slowing down as is activity at YS.

I don't expect this to continue as Coco/Pacific Plates are stressing SoCal & Juan De Fucia/Alaskan Tectonic Ridges...I'm looking for increasing activity all along SW/W/NW probley short of the "Big One" but with Mt Redoubt about to go ballistic it should ruffle feathers in Wash/Ore/YS...

BTW: Anyone see/hear Sageturkey lurking out in the Bushes? Wonder what happened? Did He fall in a Mush Pot going to clean the Cams at YS?

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Just some helpful links to monitor Mount Redoubt.

Alaska Volcano Observatory

Even though it is dark in Alaska right now, here is a webcam in Anchorage pointed toward Mount Redoubt.
Mount Redoubt Webcam in Anchorage