Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by sad_eyed_lady


thanks - I've been looking at the usgs latest earthquakes in the world page and it only shows 2.5 and over.

but I wonder if usgs isn't just using the quakes.utah.edu info directly - what do you think? they were both off at the same time re yellowstone quakes I believe.

reply to post by LoneInDarkness


I've been mostly watching the Utah University site so thanks for the info. I just noticed that most of the EQ's are labeled as Good, and that one was labeled Poor so I just inferred that the depth wasnt reliable. I appreciate the heads up.

Comrads, I don't think you have anything to worry about up in Yellowstone.

The earthquake swarms there are just a natural process of Nature. Obviously an old underground conduit in which liquid was flowing, failed. Now Nature is trying to find a new conduit through which backed up fluid can flow through; and this may take some time.

As for a Super Volcanic Explosion, there is not any chance of that occurring in Yellowstone National Park for a long time to come. In the first place Yellowstone is a Caldera, which is a crater formed by a past Super Volcanic Event which blew lots of material out from "within the ground at that time" and "lots from the top of the Earth" at that location.

Right now there is not that much material above the volcanic plume under the area, so there is no reason to worry about a volcanic explosion of any great magnitude for any time soon.

On the other hand, yes you could expect "at least one" fairly good sized earthquake to strike before it's all over; and I mean an earthquake in the 5.0+ range.

I personally hope this swarm continues its activity into summer, because it will draw lots of tourists to Yellowstone National Park. People that haven't felt an earthquake might possibly get to feel an earthquake if the swarm keeps up that long.

There will be no chance of a volcanic explosion until after the following has occurred, and it isn't occurring right now.

First of all the ground would have to start deforming upward, and I'm talking about inches per day, not centimeters per year, like what is occuring now.

Then the upward ground deformation would have to change to feet per day in an uplift. The lake would rise in height, and would start to drain down off the sides of the volcanic cone that would be building, and in the end, before the blast in the far far far future, the ground would be rising meters per day.

As you can see, none of this is occurring right now, so lets all hope the swarms keep up, so we can all go to Yellowstone National Park in the warmth of Summer, and enjoy a Yellowstone National Park Earthquake in this great year of 2009.

reply to post by LoneInDarkness


Yeah - give or take 40% - what the heck - it's only life on earth - lets even if it's 20 thats far deeper than anything we've seen since the 27th

Looks like this subject has caught the attention of forumers on none other than Sean Hannity's (Fox News) website, cool.

If anyone want sto see what his followers are saying about Yellowstone, check it out, quite interesting.

forums.hannity.com...

What I find more interesting, is how stories have changed since Dec 29th. This was posted on Yahoo News:

CHEYENNE, Wyo. – Yellowstone National Park was jostled by a host of small earthquakes for a third straight day Monday, and scientists watched closely to see whether the more than 250 tremors were a sign of something bigger to come. Swarms of small earthquakes happen frequently in Yellowstone, but it's very unusual for so many earthquakes to happen over several days, said Robert Smith, a professor of geophysics at the University of Utah. "They're certainly not normal," Smith said. "We haven't had earthquakes in this energy or extent in many years." Smith directs the Yellowstone Seismic Network, which operates seismic stations around the park. He said the quakes have ranged in strength from barely detectable to one of magnitude 3.8 that happened Saturday. A magnitude 4 quake is capable of producing moderate damage. "This is an active volcanic and tectonic area, and these are the kinds of things we have to pay attention to," Smith said. "We might be seeing something precursory. "Could it develop into a bigger fault or something related to hydrothermal activity? We don't know. That's what we're there to do, to monitor it for public safety." The strongest of dozens of tremors Monday was a magnitude 3.3 quake shortly after noon. All the quakes were centered beneath the northwest end of Yellowstone Lake. A park ranger based at the north end of the lake reported feeling nine quakes over a 24-hour period over the weekend, according to park spokeswoman Stacy Vallie. No damage was reported. "There doesn't seem to be anything to be alarmed about," Vallie said. Smith said it's difficult to say what might be causing the tremors. He pointed out that Yellowstone is the caldera of a volcano that last erupted 70,000 years ago. He said Yellowstone remains very geologically active — and its famous geysers and hot springs are a reminder that a pool of magma still exists five to 10 miles underground. "That's just the surface manifestation of the enormous amount of heat that's being released through the system," he said. Yellowstone has had significant earthquakes as well as minor ones in recent decades. In 1959, a magnitude 7.5 quake near Hebgen Lake just west of the park triggered a landslide that killed 28 people.

news.yahoo.com...

But, a day or 2 later, they made sure to say that this was all normal. Yeah, ok.

This whole article, current events at Yellowstone, new quotes from people at the park.....doesn't all add up for me. I don't buy it.



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reply to post by RussianScientists


Not even the scientists have ruled out the possibility of a super volcanic eruption in our lifetime and your telling us that you no it will not happen? Also you do have to remember that just because typical volcanoes cause massive uplift in their last days does not mean this one will. These are a completely different kind of volcano to be talking about.

I am sorry but it seems some of your facts need straightening out. Uplift will happen yes, but how do we know if the uplift that has already happened isn't the peak of it?

reply to post by RussianScientists

As you can see, none of this is occurring right now, so lets all hope the swarms keep up, so we can all go to Yellowstone National Park in the warmth of Summer, and enjoy a Yellowstone National Park Earthquake in this great year of 2009.

Any chance this guy works at Yellowstone?? Maybe looking to boost tourism?


[edit on 1/1/2009 by MadDogtheHunter]

Originally posted by RussianScientists

I personally hope this swarm continues its activity into summer, because it will draw lots of tourists to Yellowstone National Park. People that haven't felt an earthquake might possibly get to feel an earthquake if the swarm keeps up that long.

Yeah, because the possible profit that can me made is worth the risk of losing millions of lives if it goes off. Not only will they get to experience an earthquake, but they'll get to feel a supervolcano blow up under their feet, sweet! Be sure to wear some lavascreen for protection.

First of all the ground would have to start deforming upward, and I'm talking about inches per day, not centimeters per year, like what is occuring now.

Then the upward ground deformation would have to change to feet per day in an uplift. The lake would rise in height, and would start to drain down off the sides of the volcanic cone that would be building, and in the end, before the blast in the far far far future, the ground would be rising meters per day.

As you can see, none of this is occurring right now, so lets all hope the swarms keep up, so we can all go to Yellowstone National Park in the warmth of Summer, and enjoy a Yellowstone National Park Earthquake in this great year of 2009.

I'm normally not one to ask for sources but meters per day I find a bit ridiculous. And I'd like to see a source about yellowstone not going off untill the "far far far future". I find it similar to someone who says, "Its going to blow really really really soon!" No one knows. This type of volcano doesn't form a "volcanic cone" by the way from what I've read...

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reply to post by RussianScientists


Can I ask, are you a geologist?

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Originally posted by MadDogtheHunter
reply to post by RussianScientists

 

As you can see, none of this is occurring right now, so lets all hope the swarms keep up, so we can all go to Yellowstone National Park in the warmth of Summer, and enjoy a Yellowstone National Park Earthquake in this great year of 2009.

Any chance this guy works at Yellowstone?? Maybe looking to boost tourism?

[edit on 1/1/2009 by MadDogtheHunter]

You know I was thinking the samething
But on a serious note didnt we already find the data and docu's that showed it has been rising at a steady enough rate to cause the lake to overflow into areas that used to be its banks???? Under 2 feet of water I believe

Oh and the water flow charts that are showing an increase of discharge even though its like FROZEN

[edit on 1-1-2009 by xoxo stacie]

Originally posted by xoxo stacie

Originally posted by MadDogtheHunter
reply to post by RussianScientists

 

As you can see, none of this is occurring right now, so lets all hope the swarms keep up, so we can all go to Yellowstone National Park in the warmth of Summer, and enjoy a Yellowstone National Park Earthquake in this great year of 2009.

Any chance this guy works at Yellowstone?? Maybe looking to boost tourism?

[edit on 1/1/2009 by MadDogtheHunter]

You know I was thinking the samething

But on a serious note didnt we already find the data and docu's that showed it has been rising at a steady enough rate to cause the lake to overflow into areas that used to be its banks????

Under 2 feet of water I believe

We sure did, like 10-20 pages ago I believe.

[edit on 1/1/2009 by MadDogtheHunter]

www.quake.utah.edu...

hey - what happened here - they took a line away

and is that blue one the 37km deep? it looks odd

hey they took the blue line away so it's easier to see the deep blue, I think

reply to post by LoneInDarkness


Comrad "LoneInDarkness" I'll stand behind what I have stated. Why do you think that other experts aren't worried about a volcanic explosion to occur there in that region in the near future? The answer is simple, because there is no reason to be alarmed.

Mother nature is just repairing herself. The uplift or deformation will have to occur as stated, in order for anything to occur.

its fairly obvious to the casual observer that the earthquake pattern is moving northward.

What also obvious if you look at the fault maps of Yellowstone Park, the earthquakes are headed directly for what should be the most unstable part of the caldera, and I am afraid that this does not bold well.

Within 3-7 days at the current rate of movement, the earthquakes will enter the area with the most faults..... at the least this should trigger even more earthquakes, but we may actually see a significant event before a week is out.

[edit on 1-1-2009 by RickinVa]

Originally posted by trusername

www.quake.utah.edu...

hey - what happened here - they took a line away

and is that blue one the 37km deep? it looks odd

hey they took the blue line away so it's easier to see the deep blue, I think

The blue line above is the missing line
It jumped up like two lines after it shoke a lil

reply to post by RussianScientists


Here's an idea.....several have posted about the uplift in previous pages. Go read what they posted, then bring us your findings saying the opposite. We would love to read your documentation. Thats what this thread is here for, research.



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[edit on 1/1/2009 by MadDogtheHunter]

Back in 2005 I know that they shutdown about 25% of Yellowstone Park because they were afraid it was going to blow. I know this because my mother-in-laws' cousin is a ranger out there. She called us to tell us about what was going on. They also told all their employees to keep quiet because they didn't want to loose tourist. I do not trust them at all.

reply to post by RussianScientists


Yes yes, we know they are not worried about a volcanic eruption right this second but what you said is that it will not happen for a very very long time. Completely contradicting even the scientists. An eruption at YellowStone is a very real possibility, even soon, albeit it might not be a volcanic eruption.

As for the uplift, there already has been major uplift and it has been recent.

somethings breaking again - look at the black line.

www.quake.utah.edu...

but I must be wrong about the deep blue = the 37 - I don't think it matches the times.

Source

January 01, 2009 03:21 PM ET
From:usnews.com
Here is my just-completed email chat with Dr. Jacob Lowenstern of the U.S. Geological Survey, top scientist at the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory:

How would you characterize the recent level of seismic level? Terms like "swarm" are pretty alarming. How would place this level of activity in historical context to what the USGS/YVO have tracked before?

Lowenstern: Swarm refers to seismicity when there isn't a typical mainshock/aftershock sequence. In other words, the events are more similar in size. Swarms are very common at Yellowstone. This one is clearly bigger than normal, and is the largest since 1985. There were also some large swarms in the 1970s, but the seismic network was much cruder at that time and we weren't able to locate earthquakes as well.

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