Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Naw. I like the side we picked. The other guys would have us in a war every three months.

The other side just doesn't have good sense.

And according to Darwin . . .

This is why I think certain people on these threads have some type of job here...

The proof is right there in front of you....
and now their foriegn minister goes on worldwide tv saying they did not kill any civilians when plasterd all over the net and on your tv, pictures and video of dead civilians!! Oh I forgot, the NLP you spout might be keeping you from actually seeing reality.

Havn't watched tv in about 2yrs. When I find something that is from a TV media group I immediately question why the story was done. I find out who else mentions what the story deals with.

Even then I don't sit and judge the Jewish people, the Israeli people, the Palestinian's or whatever other group might be in the story as "genocidal", simply because they are portrayed as that. The governments are doing this and they are NWO controlled.

So, is a group or peoples from Israel or Palestine doing this? No, the NWO is doing it to sway your opinion towards this group and any other they want you to have hatred toward.


The question never gets addressed..... they say the proof is there on the internet but don't believe the internet... You spout hate towards a group based on lies.
See this for what it is... comments on this and other threads have indicated that people hate certain groups based on thread titles...

How would you react to a thread titled
"China preparing to attack US after killing nearly 300 thousand innocent people". Who would be the first one to post on this thread to say "provide the proof... don't base your feelings and anger towards the US people on false info. Wait for proof first..."

We need to stop judging each other as citizens of a country. I don't believe that more than 10% of US citizens would allow Bush to do what he's done. But the corrupt government officials assist him in his crimes and they are voted in by citizens. Does this mean the US masses agree with Bush's murder??? No.. So, applying this to the Israel, Palestine, Gaza situation... are the Palestinians or Israeli "people" causing a genocide???? No.. The NWO is....

Now, I'm no longer religious.... but some on this thread believe in a god of some type.... These gods all ask you to love humanity.

All our previous tyrants, Hitler, Bush Sr, Stalin, Saddam etc have all quoted their god as being behind them. As humans we should all love these people for being human. You can dislike the qualities and actions but you should love the human.
Actually, my love of humanity has changed quite drastically since ditching the false doctrines of the church. All.... All people are created equal...

Some of your "heroes" will soon fall from there pedestal when their misguidance becomes evident in the near future.

reply to post by AllTiedTogether


LOL!!! I am really trying to hold in my dinner with this one!!

Oh my heroes! Heh! If you only had a clue as to what I truely think about those "heroes" you think I love so much! LOL!!! I could tell you here in the open public forum but then my post would be slapped with a severe verbal violation warning and I dont want to loose my points.


LOL!!!! Man do you have me totaly misunderstood.




Cheers!!!!

[edit on 28-12-2008 by RFBurns]

reply to post by RFBurns

Nice..isnt it. To be shoved up into a corner, then shoved back and forth again and again. Those innocent civilians should be allowed to leave the area, escorted to the west bank or elsewhere, and not used at bonna fodder practice targets by either Egypt or Israel.

It’s a pitiful place to be in, that’s for sure. With 1.3 million Palestinians in Gaza, it would place a tremendous burden on any nation to suddenly have to absorb hundreds of thousands of them, needing food, health and logistical care, and additionally take the risk they might not be granted reentry into Gaza in the future.

The second aspect is most Arab policy has been geared towards forcing Israel to find a solution to the problem Israel created by not honoring the terms of the British Mandate. Poorer Arab nations like Lebanon keep the displaced Palestinians in refugee camps not much better than Gaza on its best days. The only way to defeat the myth that Arabs are responsible for caring for the Palestinians is for Palestinians to stay in the remnants of their former lands and press for that case.

The third aspect is keeping the Palestinians in place and Israel in place along with it, destabilizes the whole region and helps to keep the wealthy oil states of balance.

The fourth aspect is that Egypt is the second biggest beneficiary of U.S. Aide that it secured in signing the Camp David Accords and recognizing Israel’s right to exist. It’s a sizeable check and probably comes with some sizeable attachments that we might be seeing in this additional act of violence on the citizens of Gaza.

Finally if Egypt unilaterally lets itself become the safety valve solution in this crisis, it thwarts the immediacy of any form of sanction or military reprisal being taken against Israel.

Before the Israeli’s say see, see, see, let them open up their own borders to the Palestinians and give them food, shelter, medical aide and refuge to the non-combatants.

It is after all an Israeli created problem, not an Egyptian created one.

reply to post by mybigunit

I was actually hoping the US would nuke Iran.

It's funny. Not funny, but odd. All these centuries, the Arabs and Persians have hated each other. The Persians look upon all Arabs as low-rent camel-smelling trash.

What brings you together?

Islam.

Right now, Iran is playing dumbass Syrians and Lebanese against Israel. Nothing like getting your enemies to fight each other. And the Iranians are laughing their asses off.

The US has already stated that Iran will not be allowed to have nuclear weapons. So has Israel.

I wrote the Isralis and shared exactly how they could solve the Iranian problem, and be assured that no proof of Israeli involvement could be determined. Just like Iran uses proxy fighters and in turn can deny any involvement. In the same manner, large portions of Iran can become part of the world weather system, and Israel can deny any involvement.

Things are really going to be interesting in the next couple years. Maybe next week, but certainly within the next two years.

reply to post by RFBurns


There are more then one video. But you wouldn't know this because you refuse to watch them. The courts found Pallywood is real. You can watch "dead" children waving and smiling at the camera. You can read accounts of camera crews standing around for hours while the Palestinians set up the shot. You could or... You could ignore it because you hate the Jews.

reply to post by dooper


Guy this is no different that 1000 years ago. These factions have been fighting each other for 1000s of years. The Shia, Sunnis, and on and on. But when the infidel christians invade their land they seem to set their differences aside for a "bigger cause" Think of it as you and your brother fighting. You guys fight and you can call him names but what happens when someone else does it? You get offended and you want to defend him.

Like me I dog on my government all the time but I get pissed off when others do it. So now that we know these guys band together and why they do then why do we do the things that makes these guys team up? These people want their holy land. In fact Jews and Muslims actually fought together in some theaters of the crusades thats neither here nor there.

My point is why do we continue to do crap to band these guys together. Invading Iraq for example. Look at Iran and Iraq now they are long lost brothers all of a sudden when before the HATED each other. We continue to back the Zionist movement which once again pisses these people off. Napoleon says divide and conquer but instead we have been whacking the bees nest and standing there. We need to relook our foreign policy because as of now America is bankrupt and our empire is crumbling.

Is anyone else surprised? Egypt kills Palestinians in Gaza and the same people on here who want to exterminate the Jews for doing that have no problem with it. Hmm, the only difference between Egypt and Israel? Egypt isn't Jewish. Second, all nations that don't recognize Israel have either called for the genocide of the Jews or are communist nations. yeah, there's a great list. Third, Any one of you have proof the Jews ever attacked the Palestinians? I don't mean fought back, counter attacked, I mean just attacked for no reason. Fourth, so far every one who watched the many videos of Pallywood and read up on the links I provided agree on it. The people who refuse and attack me? Keep going on against Israel.

Originally posted by GamerGal
reply to post by RFBurns

 

There are more then one video. But you wouldn't know this because you refuse to watch them. The courts found Pallywood is real. You can watch "dead" children waving and smiling at the camera. You can read accounts of camera crews standing around for hours while the Palestinians set up the shot. You could or... You could ignore it because you hate the Jews.

Oh geez here we go again.

There is only 1 video that ever went to a court case. 1. Now if you can show us where these other several went through the same process, then I suggest you quit while your way behind.

Here let me give you a star for not denying ignorance.



Cheers!!!!

[edit on 28-12-2008 by RFBurns]

reply to post by GamerGal


I should also clue you in on the fact that those videos of childrend waving at the cameras and wounded climbing back up into the strechers were not the videos used in that court case. That 1 video that was used was about 1 man and his son curled up against a wall, and that is the ONLY 1 that was ever put through a court proceeding, a French court at that, and dont forget, it had to go through 4 appeals.

So if you dont mind, do tell the story correctly.




Cheers!!!!

reply to post by GamerGal

There are more then one video. But you wouldn't know this because you refuse to watch them. The courts found Pallywood is real.

Which United States Court heard this case? What's the case number of the United States Court that heard it? Who brought the suit and for what purpose?

What I truly find eye opening is the fact that those in this and other threads that call for retaliation or hatred are the ones who are calling the others names such as "racist" and "bigots" . As GG mentions in her last... there appears to be some biased views towards the Jewish peoples in some posts...

Are you guilty??

Oh... we shouldn't say your guilty without first checking out the data first... right????

So, you never answered the question.... what would the response be to the headline of China attacking??

I'm not american... so, should I believe it??

If I saw that headline I would believe it... Only because I know the truth because of my searches for the truth. But even knowing that HAARP, a US weapon, caused the earthquakes and killed all those innocent people, do I believe that they should attack or have justification to kill innocent civilians. No. Americans were not responsible for the killing of innocent Chinese, the Government of these people caused it. Not the people... the policies.

Is my point not making it through all the filters that have been placed between reality and you. The signal may be faint but if you increase the gain and take off the filters you can sometimes hear the whole signal instead of only portions of the signals bandwidth.

reply to post by GamerGal

Egypt kills Palestinians in Gaza and the same people on here who want to exterminate the Jews for doing that have no problem with it. Hmm, the only difference between Egypt and Israel?

I not only have a huge problem with Egypt doing it, but why Egypt is likely doing it.

Who exactly besides the pro-Israelis didn't condemn this action on the part of the Egyptians?

It still doesn't excuse Zionist Terrorism against the British Mandate, failing to honor the British Mandate's terms, and violating human rights, and thefts of property, and murder of the indigenous population.

Sounds to me like you hate Arabs and anyone not Jewish!

reply to post by RFBurns



Thank you!!!

reply to post by AllTiedTogether


There is obvious bias towards the oppressed people of Palestine too...just thought I would mention that in casee you might have missed it.



Cheers!!!!

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Which United States Court heard this case? What's the case number of the United States Court that heard it? Who brought the suit and for what purpose?

It was a French Court of Appeals

The specifics:

CASE NO. 06/08678
JUDGMENT OF 21 MAY 2008

COURT OF APPEALS OF PARIS
11th Chamber, Section A

Read the English translation of the Verdict

Edit correct minor typo

[edit on 12/28/08 by redhatty]

reply to post by GamerGal

Third, Any one of you have proof the Jews ever attacked the Palestinians? I don't mean fought back, counter attacked, I mean just attacked for no reason.

1947: A Year of Terror
Jan. 12—Four killed by Irgun terrorist bombing of British headquarters. Jan. 13—Arab kidnapped and castrated by Jewish terrorists. March 1—Sixteen Britons killed by Jewish terrorists/Britain invokes martial law March 10—Jewish informer killed by Jewish terrorists. March 11—Two British soldiers killed by Jewish terrorists. April 8—British constable killed by Jewish terrorists. April 8—Jewish boy killed by British troops.
April 8—Jew beaten to death by Arabs. April 22—Eight killed in Jewish terrorist bombing of the Cairo-Haifa train. April 25—Five killed in Jewish terrorist bombing of British camp. April 26—British police official killed by Jewish terrorist.
May 8—Three Jewish shops in Tel Aviv whose owners refused to contribute to Jewish terrorist groups burned down by Jewish terrorists. May 8—Jew killed near Tel Aviv by Arab terrorists. May 12—Two British policemen killed in Jewish Jerusalem.
May 15—British policeman killed in terrorist ambush. May 15—Two British soldiers killed in terrorist Stern Gang attack. May 16—Two British police officers killed by terrorists. May 18—One Jew killed, one wounded by Arab terrorists. June 5—Jewish terrorists introduce letter bombs in Middle East. June 28—Four British soldiers killed in Jewish terrorist raids. July 3—“Anti-terrorist” Jewish families beaten up by Irgunists.
July 18—British soldier killed by Jewish terrorists. July 19—Another British soldier killed by Jewish terrorists. July 20—Yet another British soldier killed by Jewish terrorists. July 23—65 Jews killed when Haganah sinks immigration ship. July 26—Two British soldiers killed in booby trap. July 29—Three Jews executed by hanging. Jewish terrorists retaliate by hanging two British soldiers. Aug. 5—Three British police killed by bomb; plot discovered to poison the water supply of non-Jewish parts of Jerusalem with botulism and other bacteria. Aug. 10—Four Jews killed in Arab terror attack on Tel Aviv café. Aug. 12—Five Jews, four Arabs killed, others injured, in spread of violent incidents over three days. Aug. 15—Twelve Palestinians killed in raid by Haganah troops. Aug. 18—Shops of five Jews in Tel Aviv destroyed by Jewish terrorists.
Aug. 23—Five Arabs of one family—two men, a woman and two children—killed by Jewish terrorists. Sept. 7—French foil Stern Gang plot to air bomb London.
Sept. 21—British messenger killed by Jewish terrorists. Sept. 26—Four British policemen killed in Irgun terrorist bank robbery. Sept. 27—Illegal Jewish immigrant killed by British. Sept. 29—13 killed, 53 wounded in Irgun terrorist attack on British police station. Oct. 4—Two Jews killed in ambush, two Arabs killed in retaliation.
Oct. 13—Two British troops killed by Jewish terrorists in Jerusalem. Oct. 26—Jewish settlement policeman found killed near Gaza. Nov. 3—Jewish policeman killed, reportedly by Stern Gang after refusing to reveal secret police matters. Nov. 12—21 killed in British-Jewish clashes. Nov. 14—Jewish terrorists kill 4 Britons in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv Nov. 30—Violent riots erupt throughout Arab world following adoption of U.N. partition plan. In Palestine, seven Jews killed and eight wounded in the first day. All told, during the first week at least 159 persons were killed in the Middle East, 66 of them in Palestine. Dec. 2—Palestinians begin 3-day protest strike; 20 Jews, 15 Arabs killed. Five Arabs and seven Jews were killed the next day during a six-hour battle on the Tel Aviv-Jaffa border. Dec. 13—35 Palestinian civilians killed in Jewish terrorist attacks. Dec. 14—14 Jews killed by Arab Legion in retaliation. Dec. 18—Palmach (“assault companies”) kills 10 Arabs, including 5 children, in nighttime raid on northern Galilee village of Khissas. The following day Haganah troops blew up the home of the village elder of Qazaza in central Palestine, killing several inhabitants. Wrote The Times of London: “While the Jews are suffering mainly through sniping at their road convoys, the Arabs have lost many lives through Jewish assaults on their villages.”
Dec. 20—Haganah raid on village of Qazaza kills one Palestinian. Dec. 24—Stern Gang member killed for betrayal of another member. Dec. 25—16 Arabs, Jews and British killed on Christmas. Dec. 25—Palestinian landowner killed for selling land to Jews.
Dec. 26—Ben-Gurion proposes major offensive to reduce Arab population. Dec. 26—Jewish terrorists get $107,000 in heists of diamond plants. Dec. 29—14 Arabs killed by Irgun bomb in Jerusalem. Dec. 29—Irgun flogs British major and three sergeants.
Dec. 30—41 Jews, 6 Arabs killed in riot sparked by Stern Gang. Dec. 31—Irgun claims to have killed 374 Arabs and British during year.—D.N.


Yes in fact proof they killed British, fellow Jews and Arabs.

Originally posted by RFBurns
reply to post by AllTiedTogether

 

There is obvious bias towards the oppressed people of Palestine too...just thought I would mention that in casee you might have missed it.

Thanks for admitting you have a bias.... although you seem to think that you have an equal bias within your comments posted within this and other threads, I don't see them. And it appears that others questioning your comments/leanings have the same opinion... hence the reason for them trying to instill some sense into you.

There is alot of hatred being displayed in this thread against people undeserving of it. I believe that is all we are saying.

Israel bombs university in Gaza

Israeli air force jets have bombed the Islamic University in the Gaza Strip, a significant cultural symbol for Hamas. Warplanes also struck Hamas government offices as air raids aimed at forcing Palestinian militants to halt rocket fire into southern Israel continued. Palestinian medics say nearly 300 people have been killed in the air raids that began on Saturday. Israel has threatened to launch a ground assault and is now calling up 6,500 army reservists.

BBC SOURCE



A university.

They just intentionally leveled a university.

I WAS unbiased on this recent wave of violence.

But now I'm just disgusted at Israel.

Home-made rockets are a justification to obliterate a whole university complex?!

Cowards. If you want to eliminate Hamas, then target Hamas members, don't destroy a university in the hopes of catching a few in the blast.

What the hell did those students do to deserve that?!

reply to post by redhatty


I am sorry I live in the United States of America and French Courts have no standing nor juristiction.

The French do not have the same standards as American Courts do.

It sure seems a funny day when people who live in America look to countries like Israel and France for their standards and morals.

Get back to me if an American Court should ever be so compelled to decide on such a matter.

In the meantime the Zionists broke the British Mandate accords through terrorism that enabled Jews to legally imigrate into Palestine and have yet to honor them, spawning a 70 year terrorism problem, because of broken treaties and thefts of other people's lands and property and murder.

The British Mandate awarded one half the land to the Jews, if the Jews are on more than one half the land they are in Violation of the accord.

That's the root of the terrorism problem.

No court has legitimized that theft, in fact it's been condemned by the United Nations and the only thing that has prevented sanctions from being carried out is a U.S. Security Council Veto, unfairly cast.