Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

reply to post by poet1b

Muhammad was a bloody killer. Islam brings violence where ever they go. I have named numerous places invaded by Islam. Obviously by choosing to continuously repeat a question that has been answered several times, you prove that you do not care for the truth.

My friend all I see so far is bigoted cowardice here in your participation.

The issue is Palestine, specifically Gaza, being attacked by Israel.

You haven’t yet to say one credible thing in regards to that or even spoken of anything regarding anything post 1897 when Zionists began to immigrate to Palestine.

Your indictments of entirely off topic peoples, religions and historical events that have no even remote tie in are sadly something that denigrates any chance for a greater understanding or peace.

You simply want to instigate arguments to keep people off the topic of the genocide being committed by Israeli forces against the imprisoned people of Gaza.

Your attitude and demeanor I fear is something that would make Hitler blush with all that venom.

Are you capable of adding something of substance to this chat or should you simply be placed on ignore?

Let's really see this for what it is suppose to be everyone!

Ok. First the thread name is " Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza" which is a headline for a news article. It's got IMPACT! Really drills it home. Now the point of these threads is to provide proof as to it's legitimacy before you quote as fact... At least on ATS I thought.

If you google "faked tv news" you will get approx 500k of matching hits. I only viewed within the first 20 pages and found very well documented and reliable sources.

You will also find networks admitting they have faked footage.

Their is evidence that the media may have been involved in the 9/11 staged event that was portrayed to us that tragic day.

British military were caught staging attacks on civilians and blaming it on another faction.

The RCMP in Canada has been caught making up allegations about a group of youths, mostly of Arab descent I believe, talking of their terrorist intents in Montreal.

There is evidence that the CIA may be within the top positions of the IRA and its opposition and may have been there for quite some time within the IRA.

With all the threads on ATS. All the stories in the news about the current events happening around the globe. The threads have forecasted alot of what is happening; are these people psychic or prophets? No, they just read the signs that these things will happen and the news makes them happen.

In that google search you find links to documents about CNN working with the CIA just prior to the 9/11 staged event. Probably fixing up the graphics for the big day.

Someone earlier commented on another's profile listing her dislike of racists and bigots I believe? We're bringing up the wrong questions people! Our distrust should not be of those on ATS but those that control us, the media and ATS included.

Example
"GamerGirl, are you truly as ignorant of reality as your posts suggest? Your posts mark you as being so utterly clueless as to be dangerous to civilized society. Your brand of uncompromising support of Israel's terrorism of the Palestinians only encourages more of the same inhuman barbaric conduct by the Isreali regime."

I havn't seen indication in this thread that GG supported terrorism. Your view is guided by her asking for you to provide proof of this other than the media. All we ask is proof.

Well I personally feel it wrong for someone to slander another group saying "we have to..... they're killing the children" going by evidence that has been proven to be false in the past on frequent occasions. You are inciting aggression against them not knowing the validity of the data.

Some keep questioning the "timeline" and it's accuracy. The timeline is changing as we speak. Not only through physics but through manipulation of our history and text books. When a school finds a discrepancy inside a history book and says use the newer version, that changes history. There is evidence of this also on google; which is promoted by both sides of the argument by the way.

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reply to post by AllTiedTogether

Continued from previous post

I'm not saying that people are not dying in this unjust war. I'm saying that they want you to believe certain things and you go off spouting history. Well history is wrong and the cover-up of JFK, 9/11, OKC bombing and the Twin tower attack years before which was proven an FBI staged event are good examples of the level they will go to make you think their way.

You can decide on your own using the evidence that is provided on the internet or you can decide using the data that the NWO feeds to you through the propaganda machine. It's your choice. And, I'm sure that all reading this will make the correct choice since they all seem to be members of ATS, a website devoted to weeding out corrupt, invalid data and showing that which is good.

Put this into perspective RF. We should feel angry because one group you say is killing innocent children. Using that same statement how should we all feel about the US killing all the children over in China when they caused the quake in Sichuan? According to Chinese sources the US murdered Chinese. there is evidence to back up these statements by the way on ATS. But.... do you believe the Chinese government who willingly falsified the Chinese spacewalks?? They obviously didn't learn any tricks from NASA on how to fake space footage.

Do you really believe in terrorists? I mean really? With all the false flag ops and stories that have been proven made up you still believe that Al-Qada wasn't created by the CIA and the FBI? The 7/7 bombing in London.... another proven false flag. the Madrid bombing 3/11.... proven state sponsored. Watch the "nose out video" for 9/11 this will show how the media is part of the military machine.

A more reasonable thing to do would be to have the story verified by someone that may be local. There seems to be ATSrs from all over.

If you believe this headline then you why NOT the one saying that a false savior will show himself for a Christmas miracle??? that's being repeated in major newspapers as a breaking story. I had forecast this to happen about 8months ago. Am I a prophet??? No. Just know how to read the data that numerous individuals have spent thousands of hours putting together. Don't believe everything; your mind is an incredible filter and will aid in knowing what is right and wrong.

And RF, its not just one video posted on SEVERAL websites, it's SEVERAL video's and SEVERAL document on SEVERAL websites. Like you suggested to someone earlier, google it.

Rgds

Originally posted by pavil
reply to post by masonwatcher

 

Please do tell us, I am sure it is a who's who's of Democratic Ideals. Enlighten me.





What a shocker there.

There you go, all those countries don't even recognise Israel.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Maybe your problems is not how much ou have studied history, but your choice to color it with your own bias.

You claim that the founding fathers of the U.S. supported slavery and racism, clearly a biased view. While some of the founders of the U.S. harbored those beliefs, most, and the major players, did not, but you were too eager to slander the founding fathers of the U.S. to acknowledge the truth.

AS far as the Native Americans and their land, which tribes owned what land? Maybe you might want to study more, and then you will find that most took their land from another tribe. It all falls back to the desire for some to claim that they have the rights to a portion of the Earth for all time, when most took it from someone else earlier. AS soon as Europeans arrived in America the native Americans were quick to acquire their weapons and use the superior weapons technology to conquer their neighbors to the East. Had the British not began to colonize N. America, it was only a matter of time before the Spanish would have, and the Spanish, many of Arab descent, were far more brutal to the native Americans than the English were, but that is another part of history you probably do not care to recognize.

Either you know nothing about Serbian history, or you once again choose to ignore the parts that you don't like.

Well, time to go do fun things, I'll teach you more about history later, if you have any desire to look clearly at its realities.

Originally posted by cal7man
Seems like alot of people forget the Jewish people have been the target of extinction for a long time by many different factions, so to those of you spouting off about the US and jewish lobby group being in the wrong

go back to school. we have been the only solid ally to the jewish state, whilst all other want them abolished, who's in the wrong??

But what do the Palestinians have to do with threats of 'extinction' to Jews. Shouldn't the culprits loose their land instead of the innocent party.

You know there are more Jews in New York than Israel? New York state is quite large and not as populace as Manhattan. They even have the Hampton there for rich Israelis; you could resettle Israeli nationals there with no problems. The benefits are that US taxpayer's money wouldn't have to travel so far and Yankee zionists could love'em up real good.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
BBC. Just reported 600 tanks 10,000 IDF mobilised and ready on Gaza border now. Olmert states "fighting in Gaza will be long and hard." Looks like the Israelis are going in tonight proper style gloves off straight to the Med.

reply to post by bodrul

To wipe Islam? wont go down that path

Sadly yes, part of the Zionist agenda is to wipe out Islam.

Zionism has four specific goals.

1. The establishment of an Israeli State.
2. To dominate all the lands from the brooks of Egypt to the Euphrates.
3. To build the Third Temple on the Ruins of the first two.
4. To rule the world from it with a repressive dictatorship.

To build the Third Temple they have to tear down the Dome of the Rock, which they know requires stamping out most of Islam first.

Tragically the Zionist inspired and authored Christian religion extorts Christians to be the Hebrew’s partners in this, which is why we have to endure all the anti-Islam tirades and propaganda, and how the Islamists are going to come storming over the Alps on their Elephants to sack Rome.

Horribly the world wide economic crisis has been orchestrated to play to people’s fears and angers, to impoverish and enslave them, and prepare them for the military service required of them to this end.

It’s why disinformation agents like Popeye the Sailor Man here are paid to roust religious sentiments and try to keep off the actual topic and the real history and actions leading to the conflict they intend to never let die until they are either destroyed in the process or the Third Temple is erected and most Muslims and Christians are killed fighting one another in a war they desperately want to instigate, justify and validate even though its as insane as it is barbaric, counterproductive and destructive.

It’s better to understand what’s actually at stake, and what’s going on than to get bogged down on the tangents these religious zealots and disinformation agents have as talking points.

They would prefer to imbalance you with anger, discredit you though that, and keep credible arguments from reaching actual inquisitive minds, while identifying trouble makers and malcontents.

The issue here is Gaza, and Israel attacking it, the reasons for the strife and the goals.

Most people not affected by religious zealotry or a Zionist agenda actually do see Israel as a pariah nation and a wide spread and constant human rights violator and a perpetrator of genocide. Naturally Popeye would not like us to talk about that.

I think we should anyway

reply to post by masonwatcher
Old propaganda literature there. More Jews now Israel than the whole USA.

Originally posted by AllTiedTogether

Put this into perspective RF. We should feel angry because one group you say is killing innocent children. Using that same statement how should we all feel about the US killing all the children over in China when they caused the quake in Sichuan? According to Chinese sources the US murdered Chinese. there is evidence to back up these statements by the way on ATS. But.... do you believe the Chinese government who willingly falsified the Chinese spacewalks?? They obviously didn't learn any tricks from NASA on how to fake space footage.

I did say both sides are at fault in this issue, a good number of times.

Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
Do you really believe in terrorists? I mean really? With all the false flag ops and stories that have been proven made up you still believe that Al-Qada wasn't created by the CIA and the FBI? The 7/7 bombing in London.... another proven false flag. the Madrid bombing 3/11.... proven state sponsored. Watch the "nose out video" for 9/11 this will show how the media is part of the military machine.

I was around watching the Iran/Contra affair and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan while Bush Sr. head of CIA, was active in support of and funding Al-Qada and Bin Laden AND Saddam during those years. What I do believe in is irrelevant. What is relelevant is the puppets on strings world we all live in. We are the puppets, they have hold of the strings, and some of us have cut those strings a long time ago and dont fall into their manipulation trap. Unfortunately I cannot speak for everyone, nor do I intend to. I only speak for myself and how I see things. If some do not like that well thats their right to not agree..as it is my right to agree in the opposite direction.

Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
And RF, its not just one video posted on SEVERAL websites, it's SEVERAL video's and SEVERAL document on SEVERAL websites. Like you suggested to someone earlier, google it.

Rgds

I never said there wasnt any more videos from several websites. What I DID say was that only 1, ONE video out of those several went through a court..a French court that had to go through 4 appeals before being delcared a fabrication. If there are more that went through a court proceeding by all means lets see that documentation.

Just becasue there are several videos on several websites does not mean that these videos are provable evidence to anything when only 1 of them went through the court processes. And again, these several, and even the 1, does not speak for the thousands of others since the year 2000. This is 2008 going into 2009.

Right now the "do no wrong" Israel defense minister is splattering more video on tv news and no doubt, youtube, that there were no casualties in Gaza druing this assault.

You believe that? Do you believe that these almost instant images and videos out of Gaza are fake too based on 1 video that went throught a court in 2000 declares the rest as fake and this next video from the defense minister of Israel is not fabricated maniuplation?




Cheers!!!!

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


All I am doing is using your own techniques against you. You don't like what you see in the mirror, than do something about it. Instead of accusing everyone else in the world for these events, you might want to start admitting that certain people claimed to be innocent and righteous are not.

I have studied the history, and I am tired of my intelligence being insulted by those who claim they are the only ones who know the truth. I prove you wrong over and over again, and all I get back are cheap shots like this post I am responding to.

You want to talk about history, but not the history that proves you wrong, sorry, you don't get to dictate the conversation. Try bucking up and swallowing the harsh medicine of the truth. It would do you some good.

reply to post by masonwatcher
Why this racist obsession with resettling Jews out of ME to USA? I will use comparison again......... It's the same as resettling all the Muslims in UK to Pakistan. The UK is their home like Israel is the home of some Jews. Remember Masonwatcher, what's good for the goose is good for the gander!

reply to post by AllTiedTogether


I should also point out, unless I am the only one responding in this thread..I suggest you list everyone that has said the same things here and not just single out me becasue I happen to have a very loud voice in opposition to this genocidal assault called "right to defend ourselves".

But I dont mind being the lead guy noting obvious faults with all of this. I am honored.



Cheers!!!!

Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by masonwatcher

 

Old propaganda literature there. More Jews now Israel than the whole USA.

You'll have to say more than that. Your comment is vague and misleading. You know very well that Manhattan has a declining Jewish population while the numbers have grown significantly in New York state. There are even Jewish only towns like Five Towns NY.

Nevertheless, my point stands.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


I'm glad you pointed that out. What some don't want to recognize is that according the the promise to the Jews, in the latter days, they would be gathered from every corner of the earth, from every nation, and be returned to their homeland, just as promised.

Never to leave again.

I can fight another man, I can, and have fought multiples of other men in combat, but I'll not take on the Almighty.

Maybe this is why Israelis have had stunning successes in spite of being outnumbered at times, 50:1. Or other times 100:1.

Now if other prophecy is correct, then in order, most of the nations of the old Persian Empire will be arrayed against Israel, gathered for a mass destruction. The purpose is to show to the Jews that there was no way in hell they could win, except by Him.

Yep. Looks like it's still going according to plan.

[edit on 28-12-2008 by dooper]

reply to post by ufoorbhunter

BBC. Just reported 600 tanks 10,000 IDF mobilised and ready on Gaza border now. Olmert states "fighting in Gaza will be long and hard." Looks like the Israelis are going in tonight proper style gloves off straight to the Med.

Sure they are, just like they were going to march to Beirut two summers ago.

Undoubtedly the IDF is going to win barring foreign intervention but I wager that they will get pretty bloodied in the process. If Iran has truly been sponsoring Hamas or delivering it any type of significant military aide they are in for as rough a ride as we have been in Iraq. Israel has historically done great when armies can be conquered in days. They have a more dubious track record when struggles become protracted.

I don’t know if the Arabs will actually stay out of this, this time. The Iranians can probably take out our Aircraft Carriers in the Gulf within a few minutes and drastically reduce air power. That new fighter Israel made American Tax Payers for is a joke. With our ground troops over extended, internal security concerns here at home extending rotations home and abroad, the Arabs in fact might see this as the best time to mount a counter strike.

I think it’s a heck of a gamble to take for not having to pay the price of honoring some agreements and awarding adequate compensation for lands Israel has illegally confiscated.

I think your timing is way off, the liberal left isn’t going to support any Bush led reaction, and Obama needs to deliver some carrot to the left, before he can really march them off with a stick.

I know Israel has been chomping at the bit for months to ratchet this up, the whole thing in Georgia this summer and all, but I think your plans across the board are still missing crucial elements and ultimately America is going to flat out rebel saving your butts if you get them over extended before Obama takes office and the Silent Sound Spectrum technology can be put to use when the Digital Cable and Public Safety Act takes affect February 18th.

Hopefully the Arab countries see it as the unique opportunity it is. Americans see it as the unique opportunity it is, and Israel finally ceases to be a problem and we can get our government and media back in the process.

So go ahead, Israel, if you are feeling froggy jump. Greed is the down fall of every criminal organization everywhere.

reply to post by RFBurns

I was around watching the Iran/Contra affair and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan while Bush Sr. head of CIA, was active in support of and funding Al-Qada and Bin Laden AND Saddam during those years. What I do believe in is irrelevant. What is relelevant is the puppets on strings world we all live in. We are the puppets, they have hold of the strings, and some of us have cut those strings a long time ago and dont fall into their manipulation trap. Unfortunately I cannot speak for everyone, nor do I intend to. I only speak for myself and how I see things. If some do not like that well thats their right to not agree..as it is my right to agree in the opposite direction.

Wow I was around around that time too... Not relevant??? Sure the CIA, Saddam, BinLaden and Bush Sr are relevant.... like you say they are holding your strings RF. Those strings lead to the CIAs involvement, and the proof of what to believe. People will NOT just disregard valid info when it comes to making informed choices. That could lead to racism and bigotry RF. We wouldn't want to incite hatred for no reason would we? I don't hate the US for what they did to China... and why hasn't the media picked up the story of the US causing earthquakes?

BinLaden is dead and was a CIA protected asset.. wake up

Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by masonwatcher

 

Why this racist obsession with resettling Jews out of ME to USA? I will use comparison again......... It's the same as resettling all the Muslims in UK to Pakistan. The UK is their home like Israel is the home of some Jews. Remember Masonwatcher, what's good for the goose is good for the gander!

Not all Muslims in the UK are Pakistanis, some Muslims are converts and many are Common Wealth immigrants with ancestral connections to Britain. Finally immigrants are not conducting a genocidal war with the original inhabitants of these islands.

If Muslims are to be forcibly removed from the UK as you wish then you also want UK Jews to be sent back to Poland and Spain which is where they came from having traversed the Netherlands at its economic height. They were thrown out Western Europe you know.

What makes you think I am Pakistani?

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

The Arabs can take us out? Lol! You sound like Mohammed Al Sahaf (ex Iraqi Minister of Information/kak). You really ought to look at the US/UK CSGs near the Persian Gulf right now, combined with British, US and Israeli Dolphin Class nuclear submarines waitng for the codes. The Arabs (don't forget the Persians) wouldn't last two minutes.....................................

reply to post by poet1b

I have studied the history, and I am tired of my intelligence being insulted by those who claim they are the only ones who know the truth. I prove you wrong over and over again, and all I get back are cheap shots like this post I am responding to.

Wow where was it insulted? In fact where was it? You have yet to post a word on the topic.

I understand your objectives. Fortunately so do other intelligent peace loving people regardless who you might partner with to try to make it look to the contrary.