Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

I figured when i saw this thread and clicked on page 30 that it would be horribly off topic and i was right.

Anyway, so where is Bigb Bad IRAN in all this? They are so big and tough why dont they come help their little Islamic brother or do they see now that the gloves have come off and Israel would be ready to whoop that @ss??

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


I didnt forget about the USS Liberty. I was going to save that as another example if Dooper asked for more examples

reply to post by John Matrix

Correct spelling is: Yahweh

Buzzzzzzzz I am sorry, that’s incorrect, thank you for playing today though and please see the lovely hostess on the way out for some exciting parting door prizes.

The actual correct spelling is Yashweh….who in fact was the G-d of Mercy in the Canaanite Parthenon of G-ds that was a sometimes evoked G-d by the Habiru.

The Hebrew in fact write G-d, G-d, and refer to him in speaking as ‘Our Lord’, no matter how you decide to spell or pronounce the fictitious G-d Yahweh in any of it’s six known accepted forms there are no independent records in the region that correlate except for Yashweh from the Canaanites.

The Hebrew has yet to reveal the actual name of their G-d or incorporate it into any of their texts.

In fact some people speculate that Christians are worshiping Amen-Ra as evidenced by the Amen at the end of every verse and prayer, and the long business relationship the Habiru enjoyed with the Egyptians.

Sadly we will likely have to wait until Armageddon can be brought about through the grand plan of Habiru inspired religious texts and cults to find out who the Hebrew Lord is.

Personally I am not anxious to find out. I have no idea why the rest of you so enjoy this silly game.

It does make YouTube seem better in comparison!

reply to post by Majorion

Mybigunit, the fact that you didn't know the name of the Hebrew and Christian God somehow isn't surprising. And your nuke analogy attempt still doesn't work. The subject matter is one of scores killed in an Israeli attack, and this is connected . . . . how?

Majorian - Actually, when Muhammed first began having his delusions in the dark cave, his god was unnamed. Later its name was Ar-Ramen. Later the name was Allah. His big effort to get a piece of the action at Mecca was to sell the pagan moon-god Allah to others, and the way he did it was to validate that the Meccan moon-god Allah was the same moon-god Allah, but they had to drop all the other minor gods.

Typically, he got caught up in his own BS and made the mistake of acknowledging the daughters of Allah, "whose divine intercession we hope for", and since these words were put in his mouth by Satan, according to Muhammed, we have the now-edited Satanic verses.

You'll note that the Meccans never, EVER, claimed that Muhammed was teaching a different god than the pagan moon-god Allah, and Muhammed never differentiated either.

The pagan moon-god Allah was worshipped by:
1. Pagan symbol was that of a crescent moon. (Same today.)

2. Pagan Holy month observed from crescent moon to crescent moon. (Same today.)

3. Pagan moon-god worship praying toward Mecca several times a day. (Same today.)

4. Pagan moon-god pilgrimage to Mecca. (Same today.)

5. Pagan walk around temple of moon-god Allah, the Kabah. (Same today.)

6. Pagan practice of kissing black meteorite. (Same today.)

7. Pagan practice of throwing stones at Devil. (Same today.)

8. Pagan practice of fasting from crescent moon to crescent moon, in honor of pagan moon-god Allah. (Same today.)

The Muslim god whose NAME is Allah, (the pagan moon-god) is different from the Judean/Christian God, whose NAME is Yahweh.

(My apologies for earlier misspelling. Long day, and trying to watch football game at same time.)

Does this help clear up the difference? And why?

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by commodore64

 

The US did not kill one million Muslims. It was mostly Muslims killing other Muslims. Just like it continues every single day. In fact, Muslims average about four or five killings of other Muslims due entirely to their religion each and every day.

There have been more than 10,000 religious killings since 1991 performed by Muslims, usually against Muslims.

You may want to come off your high horse, as Gamergirl at least backs up her claims with some sort of evidence, even though it is automatically discounted, and not even reviewed by Muslim/Palestinian/Gazan apologists.

[edit on 27-12-2008 by dooper]

Rather an extravagant claim. What you are effectively saying is that it is okay to kill Muslims because they kill themselves. Untrue and twisted.

Every humanitarian organisation from the Lancet medical Journal to Amnesty International say that over 1 million Iraqis have been killed by the US. When someone goes to the horse's mouth, the US military, their response is that they don't do body counts. So in this context of this ,how are we to take the opinions of a zionist with an axe to grind?

www.iraqbodycount.org...

www.iraqbodycount.org...

www.antiwar.com...

Of course many more deaths have been masked by the invocation of the Salvador Option and the involvement of Israeli specialists 'contractors'. These Arabic speaking Israelis were seen crawling about all over Abu Ghraib and advised on the best way of interrogating Muslims on account of their vast experience. In fact they designed the perverted sexual abuses.




I will not post the following image of an Iraqi boy torn apart in Abu Ghriab. You can follow the link. Basic torture tactic is when a new tranche of inmate arrive, one is savagely disassembled to induce instant compliance. The experts from the land self described as a light amongst nations heartily instructed their pupils in Iraq.

www.worldproutassembly.org...

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by John Matrix

 

Correct spelling is: Yahweh

Buzzzzzzzz I am sorry, that’s incorrect, thank you for playing today though and please see the lovely hostess on the way out for some exciting parting door prizes.

The actual correct spelling is Yashweh….who in fact was the G-d of Mercy in the Canaanite Parthenon of G-ds that was a sometimes evoked G-d by the Habiru.

The Hebrew in fact write G-d, G-d, and refer to him in speaking as ‘Our Lord’, no matter how you decide to spell or pronounce the fictitious G-d Yahweh in any of it’s six known accepted forms there are no independent records in the region that correlate except for Yashweh from the Canaanites.

The Hebrew has yet to reveal the actual name of their G-d or incorporate it into any of their texts.

In fact some people speculate that Christians are worshiping Amen-Ra as evidenced by the Amen at the end of every verse and prayer, and the long business relationship the Habiru enjoyed with the Egyptians.

Sadly we will likely have to wait until Armageddon can be brought about through the grand plan of Habiru inspired religious texts and cults to find out who the Hebrew Lord is.

Personally I am not anxious to find out. I have no idea why the rest of you so enjoy this silly game.

It does make YouTube seem better in comparison!

No, I am not wrong. I was spelling Yahweh, and I gave a widely excepted defininition or meaning for the name. I did not just make it up.

Copy and paste it into google and do a search for yourself.

Yashweh is the the Messiah!

reply to post by intrepid

Freedom through death and intimidation? Can I put that in my signature?

Patrick Henry put it much better.

GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH

That is what I see it coming down to. I see Islam and the terrorists backing the extremist agenda as major threats to my liberty. This is certainly a much better idea than the 40 virgins thing. I know for the poor fools sucked into that offer, those virgins aren't nubile young girls, but well aged nuns, and those poor fools are going to be very busy boys.

reply to post by mybigunit


I don't know what parts of the world you visit, but I find myself well received where ever I go. They know I am not plotting some terrorist attack.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by intrepid

 

Freedom through death and intimidation? Can I put that in my signature?

So you agree with that then?

Patrick Henry put it much better.

GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH

That is what I see it coming down to. I see Islam and the terrorists backing the extremist agenda as major threats to my liberty.

Where do you live? How do Palistinians affect your liberty?

This is certainly a much better idea than the 40 virgins thing. I know for the poor fools sucked into that offer, those virgins aren't nubile young girls, but well aged nuns, and those poor fools are going to be very busy boys.

That's 72 virgins. The rest is not worth commenting on.

reply to post by pepsi78


WOW, you know nothing about history.

The crusade were started to take back the holy land from the Muslims who conquered it.

Muslims had also taken over Spain, attempted to invade Europe through Serbia, and had eyes on Italy when a bunch of European freemen and serfs marched into the Middle East and took it back, and held it for a few hundred years.

Islam has always been the agressor, the question is, how much longer are we going to wait before putting a stop to this aggression.

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by Majorion

 

Mybigunit, the fact that you didn't know the name of the Hebrew and Christian God somehow isn't surprising. And your nuke analogy attempt still doesn't work. The subject matter is one of scores killed in an Israeli attack, and this is connected . . . . how?

Majorian - Actually, when Muhammed first began having his delusions in the dark cave, his god was unnamed. Later its name was Ar-Ramen. Later the name was Allah. His big effort to get a piece of the action at Mecca was to sell the pagan moon-god Allah to others, and the way he did it was to validate that the Meccan moon-god Allah was the same moon-god Allah, but they had to drop all the other minor gods.

Typically, he got caught up in his own BS and made the mistake of acknowledging the daughters of Allah, "whose divine intercession we hope for", and since these words were put in his mouth by Satan, according to Muhammed, we have the now-edited Satanic verses.

You'll note that the Meccans never, EVER, claimed that Muhammed was teaching a different god than the pagan moon-god Allah, and Muhammed never differentiated either.

The pagan moon-god Allah was worshipped by:
1. Pagan symbol was that of a crescent moon. (Same today.)

2. Pagan Holy month observed from crescent moon to crescent moon. (Same today.)

3. Pagan moon-god worship praying toward Mecca several times a day. (Same today.)

4. Pagan moon-god pilgrimage to Mecca. (Same today.)

5. Pagan walk around temple of moon-god Allah, the Kabah. (Same today.)

6. Pagan practice of kissing black meteorite. (Same today.)

7. Pagan practice of throwing stones at Devil. (Same today.)

8. Pagan practice of fasting from crescent moon to crescent moon, in honor of pagan moon-god Allah. (Same today.)

The Muslim god whose NAME is Allah, (the pagan moon-god) is different from the Judean/Christian God, whose NAME is Yahweh.

(My apologies for earlier misspelling. Long day, and trying to watch football game at same time.)

Does this help clear up the difference? And why?

Classic misinformation. The moon is only relevant for time keeping. Muslims have not adopted the Gregorian Calender.

The use of the lunar calendar by Jews;

The Jewish calendar is based on three astronomical phenomena: the rotation of the Earth about its axis (a day); the revolution of the moon about the Earth (a month); and the revolution of the Earth about the sun (a year). These three phenomena are independent of each other, so there is no direct correlation between them. On average, the moon revolves around the Earth in about 29½ days. The Earth revolves around the sun in about 365¼ days, that is, about 12.4 lunar months. The Gregorian calendar used by most of the world has abandoned any correlation between the moon cycles and the month, arbitrarily setting the length of months to 28, 30 or 31 days.

www.jewfaq.org...

Religious Jews do not use the Gregorian Calender either, that is why Channaka and Passover floats about on the conventional Gregorian calendar.

The world Allah is Arabic for God. Jews share the same word, Hebrew word "Alf or "Alahim," (God). Alf as in Alpha. The letter Alpha is an Arabic meaning A.

I am deeply offended by the contempt you hold for ATSers and the deliberate misrepresentations you make.

DENY IGNORANCE!


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reply to post by John Matrix

No, I am not wrong. I was spelling Yahweh, and I gave a widely excepted defininition or meaning for the name. I did not just make it up.

Of course you gave a widely accepted rendition of one of the six appropriate spellings of the widely taught concept of the Christian G-d.

Does that make it correct? Many people were taught and accepted that the world was flat!

It just means you are eager to be widely accepted and well, we all know, no one on this planet would deliberately use that or anything to your disadvantage would you.

When the Rosetta Stone is incorrect, what can it correctly interpret? You use the Bible as your Rosetta Stone a book written in paper, and rewritten, and rewritten and rewritten often by hand.

My answer is based on information actually written in stone, predating your book, and interpreted objectively towards no specific conclusion beyond simply the facts.

Personally if someone were to sell me a Kevlar vest, I would want to make sure it was made of actual Kevlar before I walked downrange with it.

Watch out for that leap of faith, it can be a long, long way down!

reply to post by masonwatcher


My god, that head ruined my day, that head looks like a roasted pig head.
You just have to imagine that people are capabile of such things just to get plejure out of it.

reply to post by intrepid


I live on planet Earth, and everyone on planet Earth is being affected by these terrorists extremists.

72 Nuns to every foolish young terrorist, sounds like just desert.

What can one say to someone who doesn't seem to understand the importance of liberty. Either you are willing to fight for your right to be free, or you will be a slave.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by John Matrix

 

No, I am not wrong. I was spelling Yahweh, and I gave a widely excepted defininition or meaning for the name. I did not just make it up.

Of course you gave a widely accepted rendition of one of the six appropriate spellings of the widely taught concept of the Christian G-d.

Does that make it correct? Many people were taught and accepted that the world was flat!

It just means you are eager to be widely accepted and well, we all know, no one on this planet would deliberately use that or anything to your disadvantage would you.

When the Rosetta Stone is incorrect, what can it correctly interpret? You use the Bible as your Rosetta Stone a book written in paper, and rewritten, and rewritten and rewritten often by hand.

My answer is based on information actually written in stone, predating your book, and interpreted objectively towards no specific conclusion beyond simply the facts.

Personally if someone were to sell me a Kevlar vest, I would want to make sure it was made of actual Kevlar before I walked downrange with it.

Watch out for that leap of faith, it can be a long, long way down!

You have me all figured out. Congradulations.

Everyone puts faith in something or someone whether it be God, Man, himself, or nature.

[edit on 27-12-2008 by John Matrix]

Firstly I would like to CONGRATULATE the Israeli Defense Forces and the current Israeli government for having the stones to finally respond to weeks of unprovoked attacks upon Jews that many of the outraged individuals failed to observe then. Here's a biblical truth for the Palestinians: As you sow, so shall you reap! I hope Mohammad "copied" that truth !

Apparently, when Jews are dying and being bombed by rockets it doesnt make the front pages. But when Palestinian terrorists are blown to bits in retaliation, all these holier-than thou patron saints of empathy come crawling out of the woodwork to take umbrage- Hypocrites!

I support a sustained bombing campaign against Hamas and Gaza, the death toll doesnt matter. If they Palestinians dont like it, they can simply stop Killing PEOPLE!

Also folks, it was HAMAS that decided to end the truce, Not Israel!



[edit on 27-12-2008 by IAF101]

[edit on 27-12-2008 by IAF101]

reply to post by dooper

Majorian - Actually, when Muhammed first began having his delusions in the dark cave, his god was unnamed. Later its name was Ar-Ramen. Later the name was Allah.

Where did you get this information from? care to elaborate? .. because if you got this tidbit of info from hadith, than sadly you have picked quite an untrusted source of accurate information.

One man's delusion is another man's inspiration.

Typically, he got caught up in his own BS and made the mistake of acknowledging the daughters of Allah, "whose divine intercession we hope for", and since these words were put in his mouth by Satan, according to Muhammed, we have the now-edited Satanic verses.

Daughters of Allah? sounds like a completely different belief system to me. But you prefer to believe that Satan was behind Mohammad's prophet hood than to believe that Mohammad was a prophet? .. I personally don't care either way because I'm not a religious fanatic like some, I care for accuracy when discussions like this arise.

You'll note that the Meccans never, EVER, claimed that Muhammed was teaching a different god than the pagan moon-god Allah, and Muhammed never differentiated either.

Where do you get this information? I can assure you that it is false. I have already told you that Allah literally translates to "The One God" in the Arabic language. Care to explain why this name would be used for a moon god you claim they supposedly worshiped pre Islam?

1. Pagan symbol was that of a crescent moon. (Same today.)

Than you should also apply the same logic to other religions as well. Like the star of David for example.. does that mean that Jews worship a star? Or David for that matter?

2. Pagan Holy month observed from crescent moon to crescent moon. (Same today.)

Arabs and Muslims mostly use the lunar calendar for date and time, nothing to the extent of moon worship as you suggest. Christians still use the AD calender which is a solar calendar. Are Christians actually worshiping the sun because they rely on the sun for date and time?

8. Pagan practice of fasting from crescent moon to crescent moon, in honor of pagan moon-god Allah. (Same today.)

No, not in honor of pagan moon god Allah as you keep saying. And many of these things you mention are added rituals out of the context of Islam.

The Muslim god whose NAME is Allah, (the pagan moon-god) is different from the Judean/Christian God, whose NAME is Yahweh.

You can say what you want about humans and their differences. But that still doesn't justify the murder of innocents that Zionists boldly attempt to justify.

And if the Quran's God is any different from the Bible's God than why are there are so many recognitions and acknowledgments of the Bible, The Torah, Jesus, David, Mosus and many other prophets throughout history in the Quran?

Does this help clear up the difference? And why?

No it doesn't help clear up the difference. Because you are stating biased and false information to justify killing innocents as if they are animals meant to be slaughtered. I've heard of this pagan moon god BS before, nothing new or illuminating on your part.

[edit on 27/12/08 by Majorion]

Originally posted by pepsi78
reply to post by masonwatcher

 

My god, that head ruined my day, that head looks like a roasted pig head.
You just have to imagine that people are capabile of such things just to get plejure out of it.

That head was a 15 year old kid taken into Abu Ghraib with his Baathist parents. Most of the kids got raped. The raping was done by Israelis.

Stefanowicz was charged with giving orders that 'equated to physical abuse', Israel of lying under oath and Naklha of raping an Iraqi boy.

www.guardian.co.uk...

reply to post by masonwatcher


I find it amazing that someone is willing to kill innocent women and children to enforce their belief in God on others, and that is what these muslim extremists do daily. There isn't a media agency capable of keeping up with the body count of Muslim terrorists.

This isn't collateral damage, it is a direct result of people willing to kill others to enforce their own beliefs on the world.

reply to post by masonwatcher

Mason, you should know by now that I'm not pulling numbers out of my nether region. Are the numbers horrific? Of course they are. In fact, just a few days ago, Hamas super rocketeers killed two Palestinian girls by accident, and those two don't even go into the running total. It was an accident. Trying to kill Israelis. Their rocket skills are only inferior to their intelligence.

Of those numbers, just a few months ago, two of those were beheadings. Remember your Qur'an?

Do not put words in my mouth. I didn't say because Muslims were killing other Muslims that it was fine to kill Muslims.

This is an intentional falsehood on your part.

And on this post concerning the Israeli response to attacks from Gaza, Abu Graib has . . . . what to do with the subject matter?

Now if you want to engage in casualties in Iraq, start another thread. This has nothing to do with this thread.

You would think a Moderator would have deleted this Iraq crap.