Scores killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza

reply to post by commodore64


The US did not kill one million Muslims. It was mostly Muslims killing other Muslims. Just like it continues every single day. In fact, Muslims average about four or five killings of other Muslims due entirely to their religion each and every day.

There have been more than 10,000 religious killings since 1991 performed by Muslims, usually against Muslims.

You may want to come off your high horse, as Gamergirl at least backs up her claims with some sort of evidence, even though it is automatically discounted, and not even reviewed by Muslim/Palestinian/Gazan apologists.

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Originally posted by poet1b
The Earth is for all of us to share, and those who refuse get what they got coming to them.

What we need is more freedom.

Freedom through death and intimidation? Can I put that in my signature?

Originally posted by poet1b
Muslim terrorists killed far more people in Iraq than the U.S. military. Those muslim terrorist don't care who they kill in the name of God.

The holy land is for everyone, and if the Israelis choose to live there, and create a representative government, good for them.

See, it is the people who think they can tell everyone else where they can or can not live who are creating all the problems.

The Earth is for all of us to share, and those who refuse get what they got coming to them.

What we need is more freedom.

We dont care who we kill in the name of money so what is the difference? I agree with you telling people what to do does not help at all. Telling people what to do and getting into other peoples business is why we are despised around the world right now including the middle east.

reply to post by poet1b

The Earth is for all of us to share, and those who refuse get what they got coming to them

If only the Zionists share your opinion to share land. But guess what? they don't, they would rather lock the Palestinians behind a wall like animals in a cage, take more and more land as the years pass by, kill more and more innocent civilians.

There are certainly faults from both sides, but clearly it is the Israeli state that refuses real peace and sharing territory.

So much pain and suffering....

i grew up in South Africa and have always believed that the apartheid policies and the israeli policies bear striking similarities...

Yet the World refuses to retaliate against israel, but had no problems implementing economic sanctions against SA...

Apartheid SA had strong military ties with israel ...this when the rest of the world(officially at least..)hated us....the IDF and the SADF were big friends and allies...swopping military notes/designs etc...

Maybe Gaza needs a Mandela....

i feel sick....

Originally posted by dooper
and not even reviewed by Muslim/Palestinian/Gazan apologists.

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We are apologists because we don't swallow the tripe that comes out of Tel Aviv? No apologist here. They are in the wrong, AS IS ISRAEL!!! Those that can't see past THEIR propaganda leaves me shaking my head.

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by commodore64

 

The US did not kill one million Muslims. It was mostly Muslims killing other Muslims. Just like it continues every single day. In fact, Muslims average about four or five killings of other Muslims due entirely to their religion each and every day.

There have been more than 10,000 religious killings since 1991 performed by Muslims, usually against Muslims.

You may want to come off your high horse, as Gamergirl at least backs up her claims with some sort of evidence, even though it is automatically discounted, and not even reviewed by Muslim/Palestinian/Gazan apologists.

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The nuke bomb itself didnt all the japs but they still died. Why? Nuclear fallout. We went over there and stirred up a bees nest and millions died. May not be directly from the US but we were the cause.
Im no apologist I dont think an Israeli life is worth more than a Palestinian life. They are worth the same to me.

reply to post by John Matrix

I remain unconvinced, but I would like your sources, bibliography, etc.

I can give you the evidences from many archiological discoveries to demonstrate the acuracy of the old testament. I can tell you what the ancient texts reveal about authorship. I can point you to scholars where you can inform yourself. But your mind is set against God, so that would be futile. There is no point continuing this with you.

I can appreciate you are unconvinced. Most people with a specific agenda to tend to find conviction aimed towards that agenda a difficult thing to relinquish whilst laboring under the assumption their agenda is a correct one.

I could present you with selective evidence Papa John’s makes the best delivery pizza or present you with selective evidence that Pizza Hut makes the best pizza.

Neither of which is going to keep you from enjoying the ‘taste’ of Dominoes pizza.

For some of us the ‘taste’ we are left with in a War on Terrorism that has nearly bankrupted our nation with one incredibly dastardly act is a hard one to palate, with no defendant or evidence ever presented in an American Court of Law to date, and no independent press access to those who stand accused deliberately held off shore.

Many remain unconvinced and rightly so as to who attacked the United States on September 11th 2001, in absence of trials, and formal reviews of all the currently suppressed evidence.

I am no keener to blame it on Zionist factions than I am on Islamic ones. I have had the privilege to have made the personal acquaintance of many wonderful Jewish and Islamist people alike.

For now I am content to blame it simply on misguided American Foreign Policy, and our inability to hold all nations accountable for their actions equally as having earned that offence.

America was founded on separation of Church and State and has no legitimate business aiding and abetting any nation not founded on separation of Church and State.

America was founded on democracy and has no business seeking regime changes in any other government where it’s representation has been fairly and democratically elected by the people it was created to represent.

America was founded on due process of the law and equality of all people and has no business aiding and abetting any nation whose citizens to not enjoy those same protections across the board.

The United Nations British Mandate of Palestine is the mechanism that has been corrupted and sullied here, not the Bible my friend. We either live in a world of fair and unbiased easy to interpret and understand laws or we live in a world of arbitrary and capricious rule of law based on priestly interpretation of unauthenticated superstitious texts.

I think you can gather which world I prefer to live in.

reply to post by poet1b

Poet, I apologize in advance, but Muslims kill in the name of Allah. This is clearly not the same God of Israel and Christianity, and anyone who cares to study for himself will easily arrive at the same conclusion. The NAME of Islam's God is ALLAH. This is the NAME.

The NAME of the Jewish and Christian God is YAWEH. Two different Gods, and Islamic apologists have been trying to blow that smoke over everyone else for so long, they don't even know the difference.

My apologies.

reply to post by mybigunit

You go to the trouble of bringing up my post, and don't even address the topic?

You bring up Nuking the Japs?

Try again.

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by poet1b

 

Poet, I apologize in advance, but Muslims kill in the name of Allah. This is clearly not the same God of Israel and Christianity, and anyone who cares to study for himself will easily arrive at the same conclusion. The NAME of Islam's God is ALLAH. This is the NAME.

The NAME of the Jewish and Christian God is YAWEH. Two different Gods, and Islamic apologists have been trying to blow that smoke over everyone else for so long, they don't even know the difference.

My apologies.

No where in any bible have I seen god named YAWEH. I see God or Jehova....maybe Im wrong.....

Originally posted by Leo Strauss
reply to post by GamerGal

 

Gamergal you seem so young and confident in your beliefs. May I be so bold to ask about your family background? I know it is a personal question. So feel free to decline.

Have you lived in Israel? What is you general opinion of the Arab world?

I am just curious.

She may be young, but she knows the history and she is doing a very good job of defending Israel and exposing the hate mongering terrorists.

You would not have to ask her these questions if you would read the thread with all her comments.

I hope she does not answer you as I suspect you are going to try to belittle her as with the comment about her age.

There is never going to be peace in that region.Same crap allover again.It's like the freaking crusades all over again.We masacred them in the crusades, took their land, we are doing it all over again.How is it to have faith in killomg people.Palestinians and jews lived for thoulsands of years in peace until the jews decided to call it Israel.Why call it Israel? Why push people out of the way? and why backup such an agenda?


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Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by mybigunit

 

You go to the trouble of bringing up my post, and don't even address the topic?

You bring up Nuking the Japs?

Try again.

because I figured you had the intellect to see the connection but Ill explain. You say "It wasnt the US who killed a million muslims it was muslims killing muslims" I said yea it wasnt the nuke blast who killed all the japs either but many more died. Why? Nuclear fallout. May not of been intended by our government but it happened so we caused those deaths. We invaded Iraq which set off a civil war that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of muslims. We didnt kill them all but we are the cause. Is that clear enough? I can give more examples if you would like.

reply to post by dooper

This is clearly not the same God of Israel and Christianity, and anyone who cares to study for himself will easily arrive at the same conclusion. The NAME of Islam's God is ALLAH. This is the NAME.

Allah is actually one of 99 NAMES of God in the Quran. The word Allah actually translates literally to 'The One God' in Arabic. Yet you still believe that it's a different God than the other one? .. perhaps you're beliefs are polytheism based?

Originally posted by mybigunit

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by poet1b

 

Poet, I apologize in advance, but Muslims kill in the name of Allah. This is clearly not the same God of Israel and Christianity, and anyone who cares to study for himself will easily arrive at the same conclusion. The NAME of Islam's God is ALLAH. This is the NAME.

The NAME of the Jewish and Christian God is YAWEH. Two different Gods, and Islamic apologists have been trying to blow that smoke over everyone else for so long, they don't even know the difference.

My apologies.

No where in any bible have I seen god named YAWEH. I see God or Jehova....maybe Im wrong.....

Correct spelling is: Yahweh
A name of the Hebrew God, represented in Hebrew by the tetragrammaton ("four letters") יהוה (Yod Heh Vav Heh), transliterated into Roman script Y H W H. Because it was considered blasphemous to utter the name of God it was only written and never spoken. This resulted in the original pronunciation being lost. The name may have originally been derived from the old Semitic root הוה (havah) meaning "to be" or "to become".

Who cares let them kill each other. It's never going to end until they are all wiped out.

Originally posted by amfirst
Who cares let them kill each other. It's never going to end until they are all wiped out.

I agree but here is my problem. Iran will jump in and Israel will start crying and we will have to go to war with Iran. If Israel fought their own battles I would say please just go to war and call it a day. But that wont be the end game. Israel owns our country so we will end up getting drug in.

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reply to post by mybigunit

Wow you could say the same about our government couldnt you? I mean we faked things like the Gulf of Tonkin to go to war with Vietnam. We faked that Iraq posed some thread to us to go to war with them.

Now in fact might be a wonderful time to talk about the Israeli led, well documented false flag attack on the U.S.S. Liberty in the 1967, Six Day War.

Unmarked French Mirage Jets identified as being a specific type only sold to Israel began strafing the decks of the U.S.S. Liberty on patrol in the Mediterranean.

A radio call from the distressed ship brought fighter planes from a nearby U.S. Aircraft Carrier who identified the Mirages as being Israeli and radioed for authorization to defend the Liberty and return fire. The request was denied all the way up the chain of command to Lyndon B. Johnson himself, as American Fighter Pilots were told to stand down or face Court Martial and Israeli Fighter Pilots were told to continue their attacks upon the U.S.S. Liberty or face Court Martial. Israeli Gun Boats soon joined in and for 4 hours the U.S.S. Liberty endured repeated Napalm and Prosperous Bomb attacks, machine gun strafing and torpedoes that completely went through the ship in one side and out the other.

Some of the U.S. Sailors trying to abandon ship were gunned down in their life rafts by automatic weapons fire from the Israeli Gun Boats, in a desperate attempt to flee the maelstrom they found themselves abandoned too.

The tough little Liberty good to her name hung on loosing 24 sailors to wounds and scores more dismembered and disfigured until a Russian Spy Trawler happened upon the scene and the Israeli Boats and Jets broke off their attack, knowing it would be impossible to blame the sinking of the U.S.S. Liberty and loss of all hands on the Egyptians as had been planned.

What has Israel been willing to do to get U.S. aide in fighting its wars in the past? Everything and anything up to and including killing Americans, what has the U.S. Government been willing to do to give Israel its war aide, anything and everything up to and including killing Americans.

For those of you stuck on Pallywood, and clutching your Bibles right now for comfort, please be advised that for better informed Americans we tremble in fear when the Israeli Military Machine is on the march. The price Americans are made to suffer for that luxury of Israel dishonoring the British Mandate of Palestine is one to the grieving loved ones of the U.S.S. Liberty far too high for any YouTube Video or falsely rendered scripture to compensate for.