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posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by DudeontheTube
Don't start perpetuating ignorance and disinformation yourself on this thread - it is obviously based on this website's posts.


Do you even know what you just said?

Or do you like using connotative words, such as "ignorance" and "disinformation" to sound intelligent?



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:09 PM
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Did you even read the description of the book? If so I don't see where your problem lies.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:10 PM
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Youtube allows people to post videos all the time that ends up being for their monetary gain, go yell at them too. Be an equal opportunity complainer. As for the rest of your post, it makes me wonder if you truly read mine at all. If you have proof, utter proof, that ATS is all some big racket, then take it up with someone who will do something about it. For someone who appears to be relatively intelligent you sure are naive.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by MemoryShock

Originally posted by DudeontheTube
Don't start perpetuating ignorance and disinformation yourself on this thread - it is obviously based on this website's posts.


Do you even know what you just said?

Or do you like using connotative words, such as "ignorance" and "disinformation" to sound intelligent?


I realize you feel directly insulted, and it's because you were. Your perpetuating disinformation by trying to claim this book was not based on this website's posts. Something which is ignorant and not intelligent on your behalf.



In Above Top Secret: Uncover The Mysteries Of The Digital Age, author Jim Marrs, working with the thousands of contributors from AboveTopSecret.com, provides an accessible and engaging summary of the most provocative and compelling conspiracy theories, harvested from the Internet's most popular web site for conspiracies, UFOs, cover-ups, government secrets and other alternative topics.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Osiris1953
reply to post by DudeontheTube
 


Youtube allows people to post videos all the time that ends up being for their monetary gain, go yell at them too. Be an equal opportunity complainer. As for the rest of your post, it makes me wonder if you truly read mine at all. If you have proof, utter proof, that ATS is all some big racket, then take it up with someone who will do something about it. For someone who appears to be relatively intelligent you sure are naive.


It would be the equivalent if YouTube took all of their videos, and made a DVD out of them. What would you think about that?



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by DudeontheTube
We blame the government/corporations for lies and deception assuming it is for the direct monetary gain of themselves or their stocks.


"We" again. Who's "we"? It doesn't look like "us", ATS members. You have a good mindset to work here, we question things. Unless you have an ulterior motive, I just don't get it.


Yet, when it becomes obvious that this websites has deceived many into contributing for their own monetary gain it is out of the question?


Still not seeing the problem. Are you from a competing website that is in need of traffic? Seriously, I'm not getting this. You sound like us, question the PTB, like us but you diss the same people that are doing the same that you do.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:13 PM
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Right, it says he was working WITH thousands of members. I still don't see what you're getting at.
Maybe I'm too uneducated to understand this higher reasoning of yours.[/sarcasm]



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by DudeontheTube
We blame the government/corporations for lies and deception assuming it is for the direct monetary gain of themselves or their stocks.


I enjoy that you use the pronoun "we." We is a very inclusive pronoun, and it does imply that you consider yourself part of "we," which would mean part of us. Odd little Freudian slip, don't you think?

I will repeat.... if you believe that ATS is some money making scheme, then harm them by leaving. Or are one of your hobbies jumping into lions dens to yell at them for eating meat? Are you really that much of a masochist?



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:15 PM
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If you do not see the problem, I think somebody may need to sit you down and go over this thread with you one more time. You know, just so you don't miss anything the second time around.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by DudeontheTube
I realize you feel directly insulted, and it's because you were. Your perpetuating disinformation by trying to claim this book was not based on this website's posts. Something which is ignorant and not intelligent on your behalf.


And now your interpretive skills are in question as I was not arguing that point; merely I was incredulous that one of your main points seems to be the book...which is based on ATS posts. I never claimed it wasn't; I illustrated that ideas for the written medium can come from many different sources.

Seriously...I would let you choose the topic and the judges in an organized debate. I am okay with playing the guppy in a pool of sharks...because I don't think you're teeth are real...



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:19 PM
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We don't see the problem because of the circular logic in your posts. How has Jim Marrs book personally effected you? Are you disenfranchised because he's making money off of his writings and he worked WITH ATS members writing his book. This was a collaboration that all people took part in of their own free will. I still see no conspiracy, try loosening your tin foil hat and try again.

Wanna take this to the debate forum? There are stricter rules for debate there and maybe we can make some headway.

[edit on 12/21/2008 by ShAuNmAn-X]



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by DudeontheTube

It would be the equivalent if YouTube took all of their videos, and made a DVD out of them. What would you think about that?


If someone was dumb enough to buy said dvd when all the content is available for free on the web, that's their issue. Considering I have a youtube account with 27 videos if one of my videos ended up on that dvd, I'd be pretty excited honestly. I voluntarily put my material on youtube, and if they choose to use it in that manner I may not gain monetarily, but I will sure get plenty of free advertising showcasing my editing skills. Sounds good to me.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by DudeontheTube
reply to post by intrepid
 


If you do not see the problem, I think somebody may need to sit you down and go over this thread with you one more time. You know, just so you don't miss anything the second time around.


So you are here to troll.

From what I have read of your contributions you are in no danger of any of your thoughts and words be used for anyone's pending literary work.

May I suggest a hug.
Take good care.


Can we leave now?



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:22 PM
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What we do here is we inform other people of what the government is really doing and how we do it is like this. Being as we can't walk in Area 51 and ask them to download their database onto a disk we gather as much information as we can and after we do that we post the information on ATS in what we call a "Thread", after we post the information in a thread everyone comes and talks about what they think is true and not true, what is right and wrong. When the people made the book they made it so that they can inform others that never have been to the ATS website about what we talk about on here and of course they must pay for the book. Now just like you said it only cost about 10 buck to start a website so why don't stop whining and go start your own website.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by ShAuNmAn-X
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We don't see the problem because of the circular logic in your posts. How has Jim Marrs book personally effected you? Are you disenfranchised because he's making money off of his writings and he worked WITH ATS members writing his book. This was a collaboration that all people took part in of their own free will. I still see no conspiracy, try loosening your tin foil hat and try again.

Wanna take this to the debate forum? There are stricter rules for debate there and maybe we can make some headway.

[edit on 12/21/2008 by ShAuNmAn-X]


I would invite you to find a handful of members (not staff) whom have worked in direct collaboration with Jim Marrs on the book to which he is the proclaimed author.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:22 PM
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Great point The troll can't answer a simple question either. So he or she like to contribute to and continuously feed the imaginary fund that ATS somehow thrives on. Amusing.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:23 PM
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How about I go talk to the police, firemen and other civilians? Oh whats this? A commonality? Explosions in the basement?



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:24 PM
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Well then post a thread called "who worked with Jim Marrs on his book" you surely could do double the trolling that way.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:24 PM
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Isn't it now..... it's tantamount to donating to the salvation army, and then screaming at them for begging for change. If you don't like what they do, don't contribute.



posted on Dec, 21 2008 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by lawlb0t
How about I go talk to the police, firemen and other civilians? Oh whats this? A commonality? Explosions in the basement?


The use of explosives does not prove an inside job, it proves inside explosives.



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