ATS' Motto, Deny Ignorance,

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Considering you seem to be the OP under a different nick...... Sure whatever you say man.

Originally posted by DudeontheTube
Believe it or not, there are people in this world who will fight for what is right regardless of how the target looks at face value.

THERE YOU GO!!! You're an ATS member. That's what we do. Now why not concentrate on what's important in the world. Unless it's merely agenda driven and your focus is ATS. THAT would speak volumes as well.

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by DudeontheTube
Believe it or not, there are people in this world who will fight for what is right regardless of how the target looks at face value.

THERE YOU GO!!! You're an ATS member. That's what we do. Now why not concentrate on what's important in the world. Unless it's merely agenda driven and your focus is ATS. THAT would speak volumes as well.

To write Jim Marr's paycheck? I'll pass, but thanks for the always-open invitation.

Originally posted by CA_Orot

For example those whom believe 9/11 is an inside job - I would invite you to read Noam Chomsky's 9/11. The book itself only costs $10 and is nothing but Q and A with arguably the most intelligent man in international affairs.

.....And who signs this guys' checks? THAT is a question I would want answered before asking him anything.

He writes his own paychecks... He's an author whom derives his literature from international conflicts and his knowledge on the subjects at hand. Rather than Jim Marrs deriving his literature from unsuspecting members of a conspiracy theory website in order for monetary gain.

Originally posted by DudeontheTube
Believe it or not, there are people in this world who will fight for what is right regardless of how the target looks at face value.

And perhaps if you ceased looking for immediate gratification in regards to "the fight that is right" you wil see that some of us are attempting to do just that.

Collaborate on some our thoughts instead of blanketing the entire community as "wrong"...

...you know?

If you believe this then why are you still here? The reason why i'm here is because i want to be here, but you don't have to be here. If you hate this place so much then leave. Yes alot of the things that are on here are BS but in order to have an open mind you first have to consider the unbelieveable. If you hate it here so much then delete your account and be on with your life.

Originally posted by DudeontheTube

Believe it or not, there are people in this world who will fight for what is right regardless of how the target looks at face value.

If you define "right" by attacking people in a thread that was made just to attack their views then I would not argue with you. If you want my thoughts (well even if you don't you're gonna get em' anyway) The way to disprove claims on this site is the same way one would prove their claims on this site. Provide evidence either for or to the contrary in the threads that you agree or disagree with. One general thread to try and disprove all of ATS is asinine. Respond to the threads you disagree with with evidence supporting your point of view. If you engage in discussion that way, you may find that there is more to ATS than meets the eye.

As for the quantcast demographics, as far as I know they are attained the same way that TV ratings are. Gotta love the 21st century.

Originally posted by MemoryShock
And perhaps if you ceased looking for immediate gratification in regards to "the fight that is right" you wil see that some of us are attempting to do just that.

It certainly is not immediate gratification but utter outrage in the manipulation of conspiracy theory supporters to directly benefit the company.

I think that is probably the biggest conspiracy of all - the manipulation of conspiracy theory believers for the monetary gains.

I refuse to take part in this site any further than driving the true goal of this website home. It does not exist to seek the truth behind government wrong doing, corporate wrong doing, or the truth in any conspiracy.

This website factually benefits from not finding the true answers, so why would they not perpetuate ignorance for that reason alone?

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And again I ask in different terms, what exactly do you want this site to say? Or, what is your question? What would you like to hear? What response would make you happy?

reply to post by DudeontheTube

If I may.
The owners of ATS have never demonstrated that they perpetuate myths just to make a quick buck. Simon, Springer, and SO participate in discussions as well bring evidence either for or against in their contributions. Yes they make money off of the site, there is hardly a conspiracy in that it's called being an entrepreneur. Do you think that there is a conspiracy then with all internet message boards? Most if not all of the popular ones generate income for the owners. We are all here to Deny Ignorance by doing our best to get to the bottom of all of these theories that pop up. If they had such a vested interest in promoting BS then why do we get all kinds of threads with the [HOAX] tag? Those have been proven false beyond a reasonable doubt, all else is open for investigation/discussion.

PS- If it was really a conspiracy to make money, don't you think they would make us pay for membership? ATS is free. No conspiracy there.

Edit to add
There are plenty who would pay to be on this site. The owners know this as do we all, however this is free to the public. It's the members that made ATS the juggernaut that it is, not some foul conspiracy to get our money.

[edit on 12/21/2008 by ShAuNmAn-X]

WHAT?

Originally posted by DudeontheTube
It certainly is not immediate gratification but utter outrage in the manipulation of conspiracy theory supporters to directly benefit the company.

You called the contributions of the members "crap". Now you're a savior?

I refuse to take part in this site any further than driving the true goal of this website home. It does not exist to seek the truth behind government wrong doing, corporate wrong doing, or the truth in any conspiracy.

Have you REALLY read the board? That's what we do. It must be a personal vendetta then.

This website factually benefits from not finding the true answers, so why would they not perpetuate ignorance for that reason alone?

That's an ATS thread, why not give it some credence? Oh, that's been done on a weekly basis.

Originally posted by scooterstrats
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And again I ask in different terms, what exactly do you want this site to say? Or, what is your question? What would you like to hear? What response would make you happy?

Not everything has a question to be answered. Sometimes there is only truth.

Those who call themselves conspiracy theorists ought to be ashamed of themselves for brushing this off.

reply to post by DudeontheTube

Why should we take it seriously when you are calling us and all of our contributions crap?

2nd line: We will brush it off and keep going. If you really don't like ATS that much you are free to go.



[edit on 12/21/2008 by ShAuNmAn-X]

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Ah but the problem with "the truth" is that is so elusive. And not ever person who thinks they know "the truth" does.


[edit on 21-12-2008 by Watcher-In-The-Shadows]

Originally posted by ShAuNmAn-X
PS- If it was really a conspiracy to make money, don't you think they would make us pay for membership? ATS is free. No conspiracy there.

I doubt most of you would pay to be a member on ATS.

As for the contribution of board owners - there is every possibility in the world that they have multiple accounts in which they use to perpetuate the discussion.

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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Ah but the problem with "the truth" is that is so elusive. And not ever person who thinks they know "the truth" does.

The truth is that contributions made to ATS have been directly transformed into a book which will sell a million copies. The truth is that contributions made to ATS have been directly transformed into corporate advertisers and sponsors.

Will those who contributed ever know or see a dime from it?
Probably not, and No.

reply to post by DudeontheTube

What kind of nonsense answer is that? What does that mean? Can you or not answer the question? Without reverting back to your non-answer?

reply to post by DudeontheTube

Why would they need multiple accounts when there are millions of visitors to this site each year? The Quantcast traffic analysis speaks for itself.






[edit on 12/21/2008 by ShAuNmAn-X]

Originally posted by DudeontheTube
Those who call themselves conspiracy theorists ought to be ashamed of themselves for brushing this off.

Shame on you.

Perhaps some of us know that that there are bigger concerns than if a website makes money or not.

Question for you: If ATS were to close down, who would complain and moan to?

CNN? MSNBC? Or perhaps Pravda would be more suited for your tastes...

Your arguments are growing thin and you seem to be hanging on to some bitter piece of something to perpetuate your position in the face of this thread...

Would you like to debate this in an organized fashion?

I'll even let you choose the judges...

Originally posted by DudeontheTube

Originally posted by scooterstrats
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And again I ask in different terms, what exactly do you want this site to say? Or, what is your question? What would you like to hear? What response would make you happy?

Not everything has a question to be answered. Sometimes there is only truth.

Those who call themselves conspiracy theorists ought to be ashamed of themselves for brushing this off.

What kind of nonsense answer is that? What does that mean? Can you or not answer the question? Without reverting back to your non-answer? (sorry, posted incorrectly first time).