Canada Admits - Alien Technology Operated by the USA

reply to post by tigpoppa


This is an ignorant uneducated American response. No wonder the world view of the United States is the way it is. Oh ya before you open your mouth and say Canada has no military, Who do you think has more troops in Afganistan only second to United States, a country with ten times its population? HMMMMMMMMMMM? I wonder?

reply to post by InSpiteOf


As former secretary of defense don't you think he was privy to some highly classified information? As to wether or not he actually saw ufo documents is really anyone's guess but I would say probably yes.

reply to post by jsobecky


hmm, perhaps, although many people value reputation as a priceless possession. neither you nor i can make a judgment about his motives based on our own values so i'm not going to jump either way on that basis.

i believe the canadian government is just as generous in providing themselves with pensions as the rest of the governments in the western world. unless otherwise shown, i choose to attribute his motivations to be other than plain cash.

not that i think you are wrong necessarily, i would be interested in hearing why you believe his motivation is cash, besides good old human nature.

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reply to post by pieman


I don't know that his motivation necessarily is money. That's only one possibility.

He may be fully convinced of his beliefs. But it seems that there are always unnamed sources or "obvious reasons" that need to be protected. I don't buy it anymore, after the 1,000th time I've heard it.

The people that know these unnamed sources and "obvious reasons" are at least as tight a group as those who "pulled off 9/11" (sarcasm). None of them ever break and release real, verifiable information, do they?

Oh wait..I forgot. They'd be killed if they did.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Im sure he was privy to some highly sensitive information, but I seriously doubt any of it was from US sources, dealing with US intel, about US operations and technology.

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Did you know that Canadians burned down the White House in 1812. I guess you guys couldn't win a war back then either eh!

Originally posted by rocksarerocks
How can Canada admit that the US did something. That's like me admitting my neighbor did something. Makes no freaking sense at all.

Everyone knows this guy is a flat out liar.

[edit on 19-12-2008 by rocksarerocks]

Because everything related to crash and recoveries meant that in Canada, this was turned over to the US. This national defense issue was handled in a joint way from everything I read.

This is an old video but it still keeps poping its head up.

I believe this Ex Minister being of senior years has nothing to loose by disclosing, and its time others came out of the woodwork.

He presented the subject matter very well also explaining why crashes are sometimes caused by getting to close to UFO fields.

Why would a person of his standing lie? he has nothing to loose now he is retired and nothing to gain either apart from ruffling a few USA Military feathers.

This guy had the balls to stand up and be counted.

Was there any reply to his statements by any USA officials ??

reply to post by jsobecky


Most of the people that work with extremely classified information have signed non-disclosure agreements which means they cannot release certain information. Unwarranted disclosure can result in imprisonment, fines, job dismissal and perhaps even death.

I think every country in this world has some form of secret group that operates in the shadows. Governments use them to ensure their interests are kept. The bigger the government, the bigger the secret organization.

I don't believe that alien technology would be put forth because he who possess it, is he who has the power. This power can be used in backroom deals that not even the leader of a country could stop. Not even the President of the United States. To a person that has no money... it's about money. Once you have money, it's about power. Look at all the CEO's that clear 30 million+ a year in bonuses alone. Heck, I could retire on 3 million here in the states.

Her's my theory...

With this power you keep people enslaved and yourself on top. Just imagine if we found a free energy source that would never run out and didn't add to global warming or trend warming... however you would like to think of it. Monthly bills would almost cease to exist. Well... except the dreadful mortgage or car payment possibly or at least bills will much less a burden on the household.

In the 90's I was able to invest money and do well and so did many of the people I know. The money was there and the jobs were plentiful. You could get a job with decent pay if you didn't like the job you were at. Many were financially independent and didn't answer to anyone. This caused many employers to give employees incentives to stay. That's what the top 1% fear the most. Ut ooo more peers! They fear in to many Chiefs and not enough Indians to do their bidding.

Just a thought...

Personally I think some of us are to quick to think the gentlemen in the video is America bashing. As an American I took it as someone who has genuine concern and is wearing his feelings on his sleeve. I would have preferred to see some sort of evidence. Since he did seem to wear his feeling on his sleeve and did hold high office, it concerns me. Why? What did he see? What does he know? Is he a quack that I can just dismiss? Before I do dismiss him I want to give him a chance to show us something.

If the US is perpetrating disinformation about UFO's and aliens, then wouldn't other world/nuclear powers be doing the same thing? Russia, the UK, China?

Wouldn't those countries also know the "truth" concerning UFO's and aliens?

Of course they would, and they do.

Did alien space crafts only crash in the US? Or is it more likely that if there had been UFO crashes they have happened all over the world, and that other governments must have also obtained the same advanced technology that the US supposedly has obtained from the capture of UFO's.

There is an anti-American tone in the Defense Minister's speech which leads me to become a little skeptical about what he is saying. (Even though I do personally believe we have been visited by Aliens).

His speech suggests that:
1. UFO's have only crashed in the US and consequently, the US is the only government that has ever been able to obtain advanced alien technology from crashed UFO's.

2. Aliens have never made contact with any other government besides the US. Why would they only want to talk to the US, and/or only share their tech and offer their help to the US?

The US is the big boogie man! Bad USA! Bad!
There are other rich/powerful, technologically advanced countries and governments on this earth, what the hell are they doing about disclosing the facts? What are they doing to save the earth?



[edit on 19-12-2008 by Electro38]

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
You want the government to hand you over any incriminating evidence just to satisfy your whims.........how naive of you! If there is a REAL CONSPIRACY that means there is ALMOST ZERO EVIDENCE! Get it?

This old canard. The evidence of a cover-up is the fact that there is no evidence. Rather circular and specious reasoning.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
If president bush was lying about Iraq possessing WMD would you expect him to admit it? The answer is NO! The same is true in the ufo coverup. They will never admit anything unless given (immunity).

Yet if you believe Hellyer's story, then you believe this is exactly what happened. Hellyer called up someone one day, and despite the 60 year cover-up, despite the pains taken to maintain it, despite Hellyer being a bureaucrat from another nation no longer holding a relevant position, this unnamed general admits to the cover-up.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Most of the people that work with extremely classified information have signed non-disclosure agreements which means they cannot release certain information. Unwarranted disclosure can result in imprisonment, fines, job dismissal and perhaps even death.

And yet, once again, if you believe Hellyer's story, then this is what you believe happened.

Originally posted by tigpoppa
canada knows something about the usa?

gimme a break those shmucks couldnt find their way out of a paper bag unless the way out was lined with maple syrup.

Yeah? Like the AMERICANS from New York that came to Canada in summer with their skies?

Canada made the arms in the Shuttle and the new Dextre the Robot for the space station

Originally posted by stumason
"Former Canadian Prime Minister of Defense"
Hmmm....
That put me off looking at the source straight away....

Well since the YOUTUBE version was posted by some dumb SCHMUCK in the US who doesn't know that DEFENCE in Canada is spelled with a 'C' like it is in your little island... I don't see how the ignorance of a youtube poster reflects on the message or the Honourable ex Minister of Defence... a title he most certainly did hold

I gotta tell ya... the objective thinking around here lately is almost as bad as youtube...

Almost



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Originally posted by mystiq

Originally posted by rocksarerocks
How can Canada admit that the US did something. That's like me admitting my neighbor did something. Makes no freaking sense at all.

Everyone knows this guy is a flat out liar.

[edit on 19-12-2008 by rocksarerocks]

Because everything related to crash and recoveries meant that in Canada, this was turned over to the US. This national defense issue was handled in a joint way from everything I read.

Your right mystiq... JOINT..

Canada has been working with the USA since the days of the Avro... I find it funny how little most Americans know about what is going on in the world yet come in here pretending to know everything

You know the government doesn't have to do ANYTHING to keep the secret... because with the hordes of debunkers that have no jobs or life do the work for them.

Its really a belly laugh to see these forums sometimes. Paid disinfo agents? not hardly... they are glad to do it to keep everyone confused. There will never be true disclosure... none of you are ready for it



[edit on 19-12-2008 by zorgon]

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
As former secretary of defense don't you think he was privy to some highly classified information? As to wether or not he actually saw ufo documents is really anyone's guess but I would say probably yes.

Stop right there. You and some others here have not bothered looking into the facts. Since you cannot be bothered to read the entire thread, or look into the facts, here they are again...

Hellyer described his time as Minister for Defense from 1963-1967 where the occasional UFO sighting report crossed his desk. He claims to never have had time for what he considered to be a "flight of fancy"...but did not give much thought to UFOs as having serious policy implications... SOURCE

Hellyer is not disclosing anything. He did not learn anything about this subject while serving as Minister of Defense. If you had bothered looking into the facts, you would already know this.

i'm not going to add any emmy award wining post here, but i do like what he said. he quoted clinton pretty well. it would have been awesome to see on CNN.
thanks for the posting the vid. first time i've seen it.