That Led Zepplin Devil Worship Discussion

I'm surprised no one has made a connection with Tool yet. They are also into the occult, very into the occult. The name of their record company is ... duhn duhn duhn.. ToolShed records. Think there is a connection? Sorry I do not have time to post links, but I recommend researching Tool and Crowley for anyone into this subject.

Originally posted by asmeone2
Here is Spirit's Taurus. Scroll to about .40:

I got an 'IMBEDDING DISABLED BY REQUEST' on that youtube link so I'm providing the url: www.youtube.com...
Thanks for finding that.

I never saw Zep...saw Plant and I saw Spirit. Donno about devil worship, but that Spirit show was magic.

[edit on 17-12-2008 by JohnnyCanuck]

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wow...

I remember that video. It was a preacher who was in front of a live audience and had a reel to reel. he went through different songs (and yes Stairway was one of them) If i remember right it was about a hour long and he even played some christian music backwards that said "he is the Lamb"

The scariest one of the whole bunch was Hotel California. wow that one creeped me out.

This was in oh id say about 85 or 84 somewhere around then. Ofcourse i couldnt wait to take out my eagles album and start spinning it backwards.

He even went on to make a big deal about John Lennon. There is the one where it supposed to say "we shot john lennon" and the song was made before he died.

Talk about having the wrong effect, everyone i knew immediatly went out and got every album he went through, just to play them backwards.

Too bad Aleister Crowley was not a devil worshiper.
He was a shock jock pure and simple.
He had a problem with the sensabilities of the time so sought to "scare the bejeezus outta them". Did a damn good job I'd say.

He had this to say about the Devil:

The devil does not exist. It is a false name invented by the Black Brothers to imply a Unity in their ignorant muddle of dispersions. A devil who had unity would be a God. ["The Devil" is, historically, the God of any people that one personally dislikes....]

ALEISTER CROWLEY
Liber ABA (Book 4): Magick; Part III: Magick in Theory & Practice; Cap. XXI: Of Black Magick; of Pacts with the Devil; of the Main Types of the Operations of Magick Art; of Necromancy; and of the Powers of the Sphinx
(Boldface not added.)

And others said:

Author and Crowley biographer Lon Milo Duquette wrote in his 1993 work The Magick of Aleister Crowley that:
"Crowley clothed many of his teachings in the thin veil of sensational titillation. By doing so he assured himself that one, his works would only be appreciated by the few individuals capable of doing so, and two, his works would continue to generate interest and be published by and for the benefit of both his admirers and his enemies long after death. He did not - I repeat not - perform or advocate human sacrifice. He was often guilty, however, of the crime of poor judgment. Like all of us, Crowley had many flaws and shortcomings. The greatest of those, in my opinion, was his inability to understand that everyone else in the world was not as educated and clever as he. It is clear, even in his earliest works, he often took fiendish delight in terrifying those who were either too lazy, too bigoted, or too slow-witted to understand him." DuQuette, Lon Milo. The Magick of Aleister Crowley. Weiser Books. ISBN 1-57863-299-4.

I highly recommend anyone seeking to deny ignorance about this subject to read this page: Aleister Crowley & Satanism

And to those that accuse Tool of devil worship please listen to their music.
They're more in line with Tibetan spiritual beliefs.

[edit on 17-12-2008 by Watcher-In-The-Shadows]

There is NO HIDDEN MESSAGE IN STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN.

End of discussion on that. Was Jimmy Page interested in the occult? Yes. Did it help them achieve fame? No.


If you want to make an interesting discussion, research blues guitar players and selling souls to the devil. That is an interesting history....

Originally posted by Jadette
to perform the magick ritual of Abra-Melin which takes many months to complete.

Sacred Texts
Info on Abramelin is available at this link.

Very interesting thread...Thanks !

Well, about the group's public image : at that time there were a lot of changes in music. Lots of controversial behavior was a part of it, to get to the audience...
Worshippers of the occoult maby. They seemed to be very spirituel in a good way. My knowledge is limited. Saw the song remains the same, years ago, but it did not give me "bad feelings"

Ozzy also had that kind of label for many years. Maby thats why he eats so many burritos, to get away from the bat's
he is a living legend

Stairway to heaven could be about greediness, drugs or as i it
a very beautiful song with great lyrics, great voice and amazing guitar solo. This is a song taking you're to a place not called earth...



[edit on 17-12-2008 by flymetothemoon]

Does anyone know where I can get a program to let me play audios backwards?

edit: Not sure if this is off topic, just wanted to do some of my own research on the matter.

[edit on 17-12-2008 by Nerds]

So .... where are we on this?

- Led Zepplin used occult symbols and was into the occult.

- Some of the members still do.

- Stairway to Heaven had the lyrics written by automatic writing.

- There were statements (jokes or slips) by band members about selling their souls.

- But there were also statements by the band that they didn't worship the devil.

- Page is the one member of the band who openly is a Crowley devotee.

- Crowley says wasn't a Satanist.

Can it safely be said that the Led Zepplin band was into the occult but were not Devil Worshippers?

Or is 'Devil Worshipper' a subjective definition.

Much as the title 'Christian' is rather subjective and many Christians themselves can't agree as to who is Christian and who isn't?

Is this down to subjective opinion on what exactly a devil worshipper is?

Funny because now it is the seculars who are narrow-minded.

I would imagine that devil worshiper entails worshiping the infernal of whatever belief system you believe in.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Do you have a source for the "slips about selling the soul?"

I haven't heard of any of them saying anything like that.

Me either. I do know what the Church demonizes the occult though. Look it up. the word means, "hidden." As in hidden knowledge. A way to god without going through the preacher/church/priest. Also a way to enlighten one's self beyond the norm. I have studied it for many years now, and often use what I know from it to educate others.

THE KEY OF SOLOMON THE KING
www.sacred-texts.com...

Occultapedia
www.occultopedia.com...

The Forgotten Language of Creation
numbersandkabbalah.org...

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by Angry Potato
I couldn't really care if they were or not.

They could at least sound like Deicide instead of annoying rawk.

Sorry, Junior...with out Zep, there'd have been no 'Deicide'.

And I'll bet they worship Jimmy Page. My favourite part of the recent movie 'Metal' is when Alice Cooper talks about all of these fierce Norwegian Death Metal types that ask him for his autograph 'for their mothers'. Haw, haw, haw.

Hey hey, my my. Rock and roll wil never die!

I dunno about that, homeslice. Maybe you enjoy the fact that Robert Plant stuffed his pants to make him appear like he's got some luggage.

How evil.

Originally posted by star in a jar
reply to post by blujay
[the devil, satan, lucifer, etc., is simply thanking that entity for coming to the aid of our civilization.]

How can trust or belief in Satan, Lucifer, The Devil, be good for society?

How do you mean by that? My understanding of Satanism is that one is 'Free to do what they want, because it is their own will' Is this right? Is this the nature of Satanism? As I said in earlier threads about Satanism... How can one not see where beliefs in Satanism lead to?

I don't care if you are a good person, someone will twist Satanism to fit their perverse goals, just as Christianity, Islam and Judaism were twisted to justify horrible atrocities or crimes.

Why is knowledge or the 'light' associated with Satanism? Does it have to be? Would God strike me down dead if I tried to learn

I didn't say I think satan is good for society. What I mean is, 'he' is the catalyst that was brought in so we could learn 'right from wrong' and in doing so, evolve our souls up the spiritual ladder. Those that worship satan are looking forward to the next level and satan assisted that goal.
Although the more I ponder the whole thing, the more I get confused on just where I stand.

sorry this reply is a few pages late in the thread, i waited too long to checkk back

[edit on 17-12-2008 by blujay]

Funny you should mention that...did I mention that Cooper went on to compare that lot with Spinal Tap?

Ohhhhhh

.........did someone say SPINAL TAP??? Roc n Roll,

....be still my Monty Python apendage.......



who says u cant have a sense of humor, and believe that God is in his firmanent?

and Satam in his?

And Michael Palin sleeping comfortably, amongst his cheese'n dead parrots, quotiing dead philosophers in the football field.....

...but I do digress

and yes, I do measure my life in coffee spoons.....

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Sorry, only the truly demented can even begin to respond to that comment....

but seriously, folks....

John Todd, dead, or very disappeared.....if he was so off, then why gone?

Even the most serious die hard metal heads must at least question.......

ed for sp

bkmskng cant be coincidence.....to weird for that...

[edit on 17-12-2008 by Tinkabit]

reply to post by Angry Potato


Ah yes.

The bulge.

I was wondering how long until that, er, came up in the discussion...

If you list to the Song Remains the Same live album, on the “Dazed and Confused Cut” during the end of the jam in the middle of the song Plant sings:
“If you are going to San Francisco,
You’re going to see a lot of people with flowers in their hair,
If you’re going to San Francisco
You are going to meet a lot of Devil people there”

You would have too. It doesn’t sing ‘gentle people there’, but Devil people there.

All I can say is having lived a block away from the Hyatt on Sunset in West Hollywood, when the band made that their home away from home much of the year for years running in the early to mid 70’s, frequented the same clubs, parties, and groupies, is yeah absolutely, not a shadow of a doubt in my mind. Been there, done that, seen that, where Jimmy Page, Robert Plant and especially John Henry Bonham was concerned, truly some of the most bizarre, disturbing and frighteningly hard to explain away stuff I have ever seen.

You have to hand it to them though, nobody before, or likely ever after will Rock like those guys.

Ah the good old days.