Impending earthquake/volcanic activity - California area

-If you can see Mt Baker from your house does that mean if it blew you would be in danger?

Depends on which way the wind is blowing... depends if it's massive glaciers melt and run down the valleys towards the fraser river.
I would say we would be effected no matter what here in vancouver.. but it all depends.


-How far away are you?

100 km.. as the crow flys.


-Have you noticed anything odd?

well, not really.. I mean, I have seen it vent steam before as I think that the magma is actually not too far below the surface.. but nothing weird.
since it's clear out today, I will take a peek.


What is normal quake activity like around their, don't those kind of traditional cone volcanoes go off with little warning anyway as the magma chambers are generally directly underneath and deep - hence movement doesn't always register as a mini quake?

I would agree with that... and with the plate movement going on, it wouldn't take much to pop that cork.


-Also I was looking at a post recently on whether quakes can trigger eruption. I know my dad works in pre-detection so I know a little about this.

I don't see why not.. temporary lava spill or something during/after a quake.. just to settle the new weight placement or some such thing.

-That in mind, if there is activity in the North Pac region, maybe he's looking at the effects on the volcanic activity in the Baker region.

considering the number of volcanoes here in the cascades alone, I wouldn't be surprised. Vancouver/seattle are flanked on all sides by volcanoes.

-That still doesn't account for why they got him out there so rapidly - maybe we should be looking at activity last week - were there any spikes?

Thats the thing.. it's hard to say with the USGS hiding so much info. that's really the big debate..
check out the earthquake prediction thread, we keep alot of that kinda info.

reply to post by pynner


have you felt any of the recent EQs that USGS shows have ringed around the Mt. Baker area recently? Is that normal?(see my prev. post on p3)

No, they have all been too small... even the ones in the valley are too small.. under 3.0

but I agree... from mt hood in oregon to mt baker in wa, things are moving..
lots and lots of small quakes..

to get a good idea of whats really going on here
earthquakescanada.nrcan.gc.ca...

it's just canada, but it shows much more than usgs for the PNW.

I've checked out some of the quake info and it looks to have increased recently (although has been higher frequently in the past).

I was thrown off before as one poster suggested there has been NO activity recently and I didn't check - this is clearly wrong (why make such a claim?).
Could be onto something here - I'd love to know how many people are out there, and what they are doing!! It's one of those things that just makes you want to know!

Does anyone living in the area know how Baker is likely to go if it does? Haven't been able to find anything online about whether it's a bulger like Mt St Helens and would blast out sideways (I believe it was this sideways blast that made it so destructive in the immediate area - rather than most energy being dissapaited straight up).

Also Baker is a very well known mountain, but in terms of volcanoes and size etc - does anyone know what its destructive capacity would be? Obviously not a supervolcanoe, but how bit is this mother?

Originally posted by zman

Originally posted by tsloan

Originally posted by zman
Based on the Web-Bot predictions , I have to say that California will be the one that gets the quake, and not the Madrid area. There is alot of fertal plains and lovely dancing mountains that is in their prediction. I hope it does not happen, cause you have to think of the ports that import items from around the world being disrupted as well.


[edit on 12/11/2008 by zman]

Web-Bot....??? Come on now....Didn't we just have a Web-Bot fan boy in here last week screaming doom and gloom....??? What was it...? Ummm...If I re-call...."AMERICA IS GOING TO IMPLODE BETWEEN 12-5 AND 12-10".... Wasn't that the whole thing in sorts....? I'm sorry but as it goes it's just that to many wack-a-do's are on these boards for anyone to be taken serious....Not that you are just that it's always something??? And there are very few who actually post good stuff....very sad...

I am sorry to hear you dislike my post to this tread. I do my reseach here as well ( aslwww.cr.usgs.gov... and here ( earthquakes.usgs.gov...)) , I am just tired of hearing that the quake that everyone is supposing is at the Madrid area. I do read every morning with my coffee this site ( www.urbansurvival.com... ) . If you did for over a year and see what does come true and what kind of information you can get from such a site you would be agreeing with me. Mostly I go to that site for financial information, but they do have a habit of bringing up earth changes and revolution themes that are very close to what happens in the real world. So based on that and on real world readings listed above I have come to my conclusion . I am sorry but that is how I FEEL. Its good to agree to disagree.


[edit on 12/11/2008 by zman]

Not so much your post .....Just the whole trolling scare tactics that seem to be aimed at ATS....

What are you guys on about?

Ok so some reality here Mt Baker IS QUIET at the MO, Maybe busy at beginning at the year but nothing of any significance for over 4 months!!!!

DATE-(UTC)-TIME LAT(N) LON(W) DEP MAG QUAL COMMENTS
yy/mm/dd hh:mm:ss deg. deg. km Ml
07/10/14 07:06:01 48.50N 121.99W 0.0 0.8 AC
07/10/16 18:01:00 48.50N 121.94W 0.0 1.2 AC
07/10/24 07:55:24 48.88N 121.98W 1.8 0.7 CC
07/12/29 06:41:12 48.85N 121.97W 16.3 1.2 CC
07/12/29 20:26:22 48.83N 121.97W 13.6 1.3 CC
08/01/12 05:22:29 48.59N 121.97W 0.0 1.2 BC
08/02/21 09:21:06 48.59N 121.97W 7.4 1.7 BD
08/02/21 09:22:40 48.60N 121.99W 4.6 2.0 CC
08/02/21 10:24:45 48.61N 121.95W 1.8 0.9 AD
08/03/15 04:28:20 48.71N 121.83W 22.2 1.8 CC
08/04/03 23:50:48 48.57N 121.98W 0.0 1.7 AC
08/04/04 00:38:28 48.57N 121.97W 9.9 1.3 CD
08/04/04 01:27:42 48.57N 121.97W 0.0 1.1 AC
08/04/04 02:22:48 48.57N 121.96W 0.1 0.8 AD
08/04/05 11:55:45 48.57N 121.97W 0.4 1.4 AC
08/04/05 15:14:55 48.57N 121.99W 6.2 0.9 BD
08/04/05 15:41:00 48.57N 121.98W 0.0 1.4 AC
08/04/07 16:01:53 48.57N 121.99W 3.3 0.9 AD
08/04/07 16:46:45 48.58N 121.96W 13.0 0.8 BD
08/07/07 09:49:27 48.89N 121.97W 1.4 1.2 AC

Now if you want to you can go here: Mt Baker Historical Seismology updated daily for the Last 10 years!

And look at the position times and dates of the seismology against historical records.

If this was just posted at the end of APRIL of this year, I would give it some thought!

All the other Cascades are quiet too, infact most are much more dormant and seismologically quiet than the records for the last 10 years shows...

Really don't get most of these, Magma moving posts, and lots of EQ's....

The Canadian information shows the ALASKAN activity and Canadian activity more , but not information for the Cascades range....

Now he might have gone to Yellowstone which is always a concern and is Raising as said, but it has slowed down recently so why the urgency of any call out....

This is not volcanology the reason of his trip if he has gone to Calif or America area.... unless its yellowstone, Alaska, Hawaii.

The data is there its easy to access try researching before posting eh.

Elf.

[edit on 11-12-2008 by MischeviousElf]

Well, Im not a specialist by any means, however I do enjoy watching webrecorders and have for some time. This is something that shows up at some point on all the seismographs for all the different volcanos on the USGS page PNSN webicorders



It is exactly the same at totaly different times and days. It is not anything I have ever seen before, so I assume they are testing something out right now.

I remember there being a bulge or something in Oregon they thought was a new volcano forming, but it did not seem like anything big or exciting. I have noticed links between the cascade reigon acting up prior to all the major quakes in Indonesia, and there have also been talks of a migrating lava pool. Some think the main lava chamber under Yellowstone has been migrating (or others state the plates are moving over the top so that the main chambers are actually somewhere else. That one seems a bit far fetched for me, but who knows. Thought I would through a few things out there.

Originally posted by Darthorious

Originally posted by tsloan

Originally posted by zman
Based on the Web-Bot predictions , I have to say that California will be the one that gets the quake, and not the Madrid area. There is alot of fertal plains and lovely dancing mountains that is in their prediction. I hope it does not happen, cause you have to think of the ports that import items from around the world being disrupted as well.


[edit on 12/11/2008 by zman]

Web-Bot....??? Come on now....Didn't we just have a Web-Bot fan boy in here last week screaming doom and gloom....??? What was it...? Ummm...If I re-call...."AMERICA IS GOING TO IMPLODE BETWEEN 12-5 AND 12-10".... Wasn't that the whole thing in sorts....? I'm sorry but as it goes it's just that to many wack-a-do's are on these boards for anyone to be taken serious....Not that you are just that it's always something??? And there are very few who actually post good stuff....very sad...

No they said between 12-10 and 12-15 so looks like it could be right on schedule hope not was hoping nothing would happen and wouldn't have to worry about the stupid webbot but I guess we'll know in the next 5 days or so.

Yea,yea,yea....Now it's between the 10th and 15th....I guess I'll swing back in on the 15th and remind everyone that it was the 10th or the 15th...or maybe we can stretch it a couple more days so some of the doom and gloom whores can be the talk of the boards.... I feel like getting a beer....."self" would you like a beer...?.."YES"..In fact I would...

a very good seismograph reading of a open pit mine blast.
www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

i used to love doing those.

Originally posted by mrsdudara
Well, Im not a specialist by any means, however I do enjoy watching webrecorders and have for some time. This is something that shows up at some point on all the seismographs for all the different volcanos on the USGS page PNSN webicorders

It is exactly the same at totaly different times and days. It is not anything I have ever seen before, so I assume they are testing something out right now.

[edit on 11-12-2008 by ANNED]

[edit on 11-12-2008 by ANNED]

First of all... your way way way off topic..

if you have nothing to add about the subject, im sure you can find the door.

or better yet, go start a thread where you can whine nonsensically about something you know nothing about.

please.. get a clue and move on, tsloan.

Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
UPDATE

My dad called - and he 'can't speak about what he is doing' - so open to suggestions on what this might be. Anyone any experience of US keeping geological projects classified?

Does the USGS even have classified level projects?

I promise you from experience, USGS and even BGS do take part in extremly classified projects, Involving everything from a resurvey of the entire US, some resulting in talks with several Native American Nations, regarding mining rights, Classified surveys of Aquifers near the Chicago Indiana border, looking for Dioxin contamination, Classified oil surveys in Alaska, and several National forests in the US, Also I heard very recently, a rush to discover viable copper deposits, world wide shortage of copper getting worse, and I know a lot of study goes into unstable fault activity being disguised as other research.

I guess all done and a lot more, so the general population don't get scared or worried.

Originally posted by tsloan

Originally posted by Darthorious

Originally posted by tsloan

Originally posted by zman
Based on the Web-Bot predictions , I have to say that California will be the one that gets the quake, and not the Madrid area. There is alot of fertal plains and lovely dancing mountains that is in their prediction. I hope it does not happen, cause you have to think of the ports that import items from around the world being disrupted as well.


[edit on 12/11/2008 by zman]

Web-Bot....??? Come on now....Didn't we just have a Web-Bot fan boy in here last week screaming doom and gloom....??? What was it...? Ummm...If I re-call...."AMERICA IS GOING TO IMPLODE BETWEEN 12-5 AND 12-10".... Wasn't that the whole thing in sorts....? I'm sorry but as it goes it's just that to many wack-a-do's are on these boards for anyone to be taken serious....Not that you are just that it's always something??? And there are very few who actually post good stuff....very sad...

No they said between 12-10 and 12-15 so looks like it could be right on schedule hope not was hoping nothing would happen and wouldn't have to worry about the stupid webbot but I guess we'll know in the next 5 days or so.

Yea,yea,yea....Now it's between the 10th and 15th....I guess I'll swing back in on the 15th and remind everyone that it was the 10th or the 15th...or maybe we can stretch it a couple more days so some of the doom and gloom whores can be the talk of the boards.... I feel like getting a beer....."self" would you like a beer...?.."YES"..In fact I would...

RIGHT - it magically changed ... only because you didn't read it in the first place! Nobody is stretching anything. Get a grip and don't read/post unless you have something to add on topic.

Originally posted by Evasius
Nearly 12 hours ago I saw a number of quakes listed for Central California that were subsequently removed from the page.

earthquake.usgs.gov...

Anyone ever seen multiple quakes listed and then removed soon after?

I track the quakes everyday to some extent. I have never seen them removed from this link that you have provided. I have noticed at times that some quakes are not listed on this site but are listed on other sites (which I find strange).

I personally left work early last night - (southern ca) because the building was creaking more than usual. This morning we had two small quakes in Culver City area - first one was 1.9 at 4:30am (approx) and the second one was 2.4 at 5:30 (approx). The fact that it was an increased mag in the same area is curious to me - although it does happen sometimes. Most recently in the off shore Oregon area. There has been an increase in quake activity here - larger - and not in the usual places.

There have also been an increase in tsunami-like waves of late in other parts of the world. Mostly around the larger quakes positioned in the ocean - but not always.

You all probably know about this site. I believe accurate - though sometimes slow in response probably due to it's basecamp area and some language snags.

hisz.rsoe.hu...

My personal opinion is that these "natural" events are not always natural -
but unnaturally generated - ie: HAARP - weather mod - mining.. - etc..

Regardless, the planet is rockin' and a rollin' right now.
Be nice to your neighbors and hold on to your hats.

I've been lurking the pages for quite some time and now feel the need to post.

The other week(sorry do not remember when) I had a dream that there were downed power lines on a relative's road and we(my sister and mom that is) were in a huge Humvee type vehicle (we have no way of getting one as we do not own one nor does our family) the next thing I knew we were in a helicopter(once again no family owns one) and we were going through a crevice somewhere that looked like beneath the earth and lava jumped up and got the copter(as in the whole thing), right at that moment I woke up went into the kitchen for a drink of water.

could be coincidence but though I'd share and give some food for thought.

reply to post by ANNED


That was totaly WICKED!!!


I believe you may be right, BUT there is no way they started mineing all the volcanos. Why else would they be doing this? Perhaps weakening certin areas in hopes to cause the least amount of damage to a populated area?

Surely they wouldnt be trying to get to the lava because that would be sooooo dumb.

Any thoughts?

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
What are you guys on about?

Ok so some reality here Mt Baker IS QUIET at the MO, Maybe busy at beginning at the year but nothing of any significance for over 4 months!!!!



Now he might have gone to Yellowstone which is always a concern and is Raising as said, but it has slowed down recently so why the urgency of any call out....

This is not volcanology the reason of his trip if he has gone to Calif or America area.... unless its yellowstone, Alaska, Hawaii.

The data is there its easy to access try researching before posting eh.

Elf.

[edit on 11-12-2008 by MischeviousElf]

Bristol professors in the Earth Science dept. also specialize in gaseous signals. Sulfur, CO2, et c. Maybe the issue isn't seismic, but gaseous. Remember the wildlife kill at Yellowstone? Sort of like a silent, but deadly fart.

The ski areas are off limits today. Maybe the Earth did a silent fart?
But then you'd run away from, not to, right?

There could be other signal as well. EQ fires. Ever heard of them? Glowing air above the site.

There's too much here, with a "rush" to the Cascades from England, to dimiss this lightly. Especially given that they want whoever it is to stay thru Christmas.

If somone could pin down which professor/lecturer it is, we could back-track from his specialty to see what we should be looking for.

They also cover stuff in the Sierra Nevada.

I have been around the USGS site and they have a website you can go on that shows disasters in real time. Just shows little pictures and little dots. Last night I was on it and saw the volcanoes all down south America were erupting, and over the last week California's quakes are strengthening a bit all the way up and down the state. This could be natural I don't know, but I have a feeling be it volcanoes or earthquakes we are in for something soon. If I can find a way to get this pic on here I will. Anyone can get it you just have to register (Free) and you can have full access to this. Biological incident in Los Alamos NM last night was odd.

Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
OR EVEN MORE SUSPICIOUS -

Mt Baker hold off opening ski are due to 'impending storm'

What if the 'impending storm' is a ruse for 'we have volcanic activity and don't want 10,000 skiiers on the Mt when she blows??

I don't think the "impending storm" is a ruse. We (northwestern Washington) are expecting a storm front in sometime tonight.


[edit on 12/12/2008 by Aislin]

reply to post by stinger94


No worries there, those quakes and volcanos have been happening there for a realy long time.

The thing down in NM is not anything new either. Its the plague, happens every year. This year, the dogs are comming down with them too so it is bit more of a warning, but nothing they cant handle.

Originally posted by jdub297

Bristol professors in the Earth Science dept. also specialize in gaseous signals. Sulfur, CO2, et c. Maybe the issue isn't seismic, but gaseous. Remember the wildlife kill at Yellowstone? Sort of like a silent, but deadly fart.

I dont think anyone could have put that better awesome.

You could be very right there. Also, there have been instances where the ground temperature rises to dangerous levels. There was a place in southern California that was confusing the hell out of all the scientists. Ground temps were up to something crazy like 800 and something degrees. It had started grass fires, which is what led them to it in the first place. Now, nothing grows there. Sure has scientists (and locals) wiggin though.