Impending earthquake/volcanic activity - California area

Originally posted by tsloan

Originally posted by zman
Based on the Web-Bot predictions , I have to say that California will be the one that gets the quake, and not the Madrid area. There is alot of fertal plains and lovely dancing mountains that is in their prediction. I hope it does not happen, cause you have to think of the ports that import items from around the world being disrupted as well.


[edit on 12/11/2008 by zman]

Web-Bot....??? Come on now....Didn't we just have a Web-Bot fan boy in here last week screaming doom and gloom....??? What was it...? Ummm...If I re-call...."AMERICA IS GOING TO IMPLODE BETWEEN 12-5 AND 12-10".... Wasn't that the whole thing in sorts....? I'm sorry but as it goes it's just that to many wack-a-do's are on these boards for anyone to be taken serious....Not that you are just that it's always something??? And there are very few who actually post good stuff....very sad...

No they said between 12-10 and 12-15 so looks like it could be right on schedule hope not was hoping nothing would happen and wouldn't have to worry about the stupid webbot but I guess we'll know in the next 5 days or so.

reply to post by Darthorious


I will eat a sheep´s head if this web-bot quake hits California.

Seriously, I will!

Here are some links that show the historical numbers on "The Geysers" geothermal area...and a breakdown of the last 24 hours!!! yikes.......120+ tremors in last 24 hours.....and 2.0 or above almost matching yearly averages in the last day!!.....hope this helps.

www.data.scec.org...

seismo.berkeley.edu...

Not to go too far off topic - but interesting what you said about the dream.

I don't think it is a premonition - but I have had two amazingly epic dreams along similar lines.

One was me skiing in a mountain range when all hell breaks loose - turns out a volcano is erupting. Huge scale death and destruction.

The second was I was on a beach - heard like a short loud low sound - then deadly silence as the sea drew back as far as I could see. Then from the horizon a wall of water - which came in and must have been a mile high - then BANG - I woke up..

They were very odd dreams at the time I had no interest in either subject and nothing was on the news.. I was pretty stressed though so maybe stress can translate itself into apocalyptic dreams.

BACK ON TOPIC:

Does anyone have any info on recent Mt Baker activity?

Also - what would be the consequence if Baker blew? I'm in the UK so don't know how populated the area is around there etc - or even how huge baker is - I know it's one of the tallest mts in the cascades.

reply to post by zhuzha


Could that be cause you were reading this thread before bed time?

reply to post by Waldy


HAHA ewwwww. At the same time how can YOU be so sure?

Anythings possible.

Mt St Helens area quiet...

Could this be a cover up? What motivation would a govmt have for covering up something like this?

Ahhh mabe this is the explanation:

Crystal, Mt. Baker could open slopes this weekend

Maybe my dad is doing some kind of final checks stuff - but then why would this be secret?

I sure wouldn't ski on a volcano!

OR EVEN MORE SUSPICIOUS -

Mt Baker hold off opening ski are due to 'impending storm'

What if the 'impending storm' is a ruse for 'we have volcanic activity and don't want 10,000 skiiers on the Mt when she blows??

OK. my links didn't work - I've never posted links guys!

But there are three news stories simply by doing google news on Mt Baker.

Most significant is they are holding back opening the ski area saying a storm may come this weekend - this could be suspicious if they have vulcanologists in the area - maybe its an excuse and the real reason is activity!

Anyone know anything else?

If all you are saying is true and genuine, wouldnt you be concerned about maybe putting your Dad in a difficult situation by disclosing all this?!

As you can see in the following link, there are almost no earthquakes in the MT. Baker area that suggest magma movement...

Washington quakes

The pacific northwest (where mt. Baker is) is expecting a huge winter storm this weekend so these news stories don't have any hidden meaning. We rarely get snow in the valleys but they are predicting a ton for the mountains so it makes a lot of sense that they would hold off opening until new snow comes. Try not to read too much into it. If you are wanting volcano action, there has to be some magma movement LIke someone said in the post above me. There would be warning signs. That's how Mt. St. Helens woke up, I cant imagine a volcano just erupting without signs such as earthquakes for lava movement, gas readings and various other warning signs that you learn about when you live within a volcanos reach.

Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
Mt St Helens area quiet...

Could this be a cover up? What motivation would a govmt have for covering up something like this?

Ahhh mabe this is the explanation:

Crystal, Mt. Baker could open slopes this weekend

Maybe my dad is doing some kind of final checks stuff - but then why would this be secret?

I sure wouldn't ski on a volcano!

OR EVEN MORE SUSPICIOUS -

Mt Baker hold off opening ski are due to 'impending storm'

What if the 'impending storm' is a ruse for 'we have volcanic activity and don't want 10,000 skiiers on the Mt when she blows??

I don't see why my dad would be in a difficult situation - its the USGS not the CIA.

I think he'd be just as willing to get out details of any danger if he was in my position - but he isn't and his whole livelihood relies on him obeying the rules so I don't feel bad for him if he sometimes does have to keep things quiet.

I can see why they woudn't say anything until they were sure. If they suggested anything - even the smallest activity it would cause panic and maybe even lose the ski businesses millions!

Well, how do you know its the USGS and not the CIA? If he is doing a secretive mission, then there are reasons for it being so, no?!

Maybe the people he works for are screening you and this site.....
Be paranoid....you`re on ATS, after all

Again I don't want to suggest something is happening where it isn't but seeing as most data comes form the USGS couldn't it be controlled?

And this doesn't mean conspiracy etc - it's just wise. If some home geologist was checking on their site and saw some unusual spikes, he could cause widespread panic, when he perhaps doesn't know the full story like the pros.

For instance, Mt St Helens was showing a lot of activity months before the eruption back when the internet etc wasn't really available. If the same had happened now you can bet a lot more media attention that it got and a lot more panic. How many businesses would have lost money etc in those months where actually the danger was minimal - if people had got scared unduly and stayed away.

I'm still waiting on any suggestions as to why they would ask my dad to stay out over christmas. I know for a fact even lab projects etc shut down over Yuletide - so something is happening - although obviously this doesn't mean something really BIG and significant is happening.

Either way, the bear minimum I'd say this was is some kind of planning exorcise - but keeping someone there over Xmas for that?

You don't fly a guy 1000's miles at great expense to gather data that some lab tech could get.

SaraKo - I suppose you have a point - I don't know for sure ! Maybe even he doesn't right!

So yeah I'll be more careful with what I'm saying.

I don't think he is in any danger though.

Originally posted by Necrosis
Alaskan Volcano Erupts with Little Warning

Alaskan Volcano Erupts: FoxNews

Originally posted by mrsdudara
reply to post by Waldy

 

Answer to both of you.

No they would not. They are not allowed to due to previous lawsuits. Too many people were upset with the inconvienience of having to leave their homes.

I believe they are only allowed to give an evacuation notice 24 hours before an eminant event, and even then it can only be the areas that will be directly effected.

GEEZ...really? So people will complain for being "inconvienced" if there isn't an earthquake and be the first to scream injustice when there is and they weren't told? Why then put the effort into systems designed to warn when you could get sued unless it's 24 hrs in advance.
That doesn't make any sense.

I have to say YES, the USGS does alter it's earthquake info..

we have proven that in another thread.

they will either remove an eq within a few minutes of it happening.. or post it as an old one a few days later.
they also tend to remove wave form data.

all you have to do is look at the USGS site then look at the canadian site to know what the USGS is hiding.

it make sence that he's up at baker... been alot of EQ's in the pacific northwest.

oh.. on clear days like today, I can see Mt baker sticking up.. not sure how anyone couldn't know it's a volcano.. it looks like one! LMAO

also, the best ski hills are volcanoes.. funny how that works.
ski on a volcano is no bother.. it's the mega cities on fault lines that make me laugh.

They do alter data then - that actually make sense. Have to ask my dad about that one when he returns.

It's one of those 'things' about the internet - now everyone can see data etc - which I guess they have a right to see. BUT if it means that they will panic, it might actually not be in their best interests to know! But if people withhold it then they naturally bring suspicion around themselves and that leads to distrust!

If you can see Mt Baker from your house does that mean if it blew you would be in danger? How far away are you? Have you noticed anything odd?

What is normal quake activity like around their, don't those kind of traditional cone volcanoes go off with little warning anyway as the magma chambers are generally directly underneath and deep - hence movement doesn't always register as a mini quake?

Also I was looking at a post recently on whether quakes can trigger eruption. I know my dad works in pre-detection so I know a little about this.

The answer is definitely yes but not so clean cut. There have certainly been a couple of incidences where huge eruptions have been set off by quake activity not related to the volcanos own activity.

That in mind, if there is activity in the North Pac region, maybe he's looking at the effects on the volcanic activity in the Baker region -

That still doesn't account for why they got him out there so rapidly - maybe we should be looking at activity last week - were there any spikes?

Don't want to be intrusive, but here's a few things to know:

Bristol's Earth Science dept. includes professors specializing in post-eruptive studies of gas, ash and outflows; deep earth seismic studies of magma flows and fractures, and involved in studies of seismic activity in the Sierra Nevada.

The USGS map of seismic activity for the Pac.-NW shows a string of recent mid-level quakes along the NW coast, near Mt. Baker.

The national map includes CA and the MidWest and clearly show much recent activity in SoCal and New Madrid fault zone.

Have a nice afternoon.


USGS NW map
www.pnsn.org...

USGS Earthquake map
earthquake.usgs.gov...


U of Bristol Earth Science Dept.
www.gly.bris.ac.uk...

Sierra Nevada EarthScope Project (U. of CO)
cires.colorado.edu...

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