Illinois Govenor Who Suspends State Business With B of A Taken Into Federal Custody

He won't have a chance to select the senate seat. If he doesn't resign within 48 hours, he will be impeached. And if none of that happens, nobody would be dumb enough to accept his appointment right now.

why wouldnt they wait till he appointed the highest bidder to the seat and bust the whole thing wide open, including the person who agreed to the bribe. seems odd.

As far as all the nonsense about Blag doing good deeds...the CTA bit and all..

This is Modis Operendi for corrupt Govs in Illinois. Remember George Ryan suspending capital punishment?...right before he went to jail?

Grand gestures like this are a means of distraction for corrupt officials...at least IL Govenors.

Originally posted by turbokid
why wouldnt they wait till he appointed the highest bidder to the seat and bust the whole thing wide open, including the person who agreed to the bribe. seems odd.

I'm not sure there is a case against the person who agreed to be extorted and at that point there may be nothing the state could do to get that person out of office until 2010.

Originally posted by Cuhail
Don't you see why EVERY ILLINOIAN that has posted to this thread is relieved that the law, whatever it's motivation is, is coming here to clean up the corruption? Don't you hear it in the blogs about Gov. Blago's arrest? Do you understand that we, as Illinoisans, WANT some integrity to grace our Capital's halls?

My god, you just don't get it.

NOBODY has said that he shouldn't go to jail!

We're all just miffed that nothing was done about it until he took on Bank of America!!!

THAT is what this is all about! The rest of America hates corrupt politicians just as much as you folks from Illinois do! I for one am glad that he got arrested. I am pissed that it took action against BoA to get him arrested. Understand?

Originally posted by turbokid

THIS JUST BREAKING

on fox Bank of America just said that NOW they will extend loans to that windows factory where the workers are sitting in..

not sure what to make of this yet but its interesting!!!

I had to chuckle at this. Pretty much confirms everything we have been claiming. Big old Bank of America to save the day, just hours after he is arrested. If there is STILL anyone with any doubts that this is all about the banks, seriously get with it.


Just to reiterate: We all hate this corrupt governor. People from Illinois you are not alone. For some reason though, even though you've been exposed to this guys bull# for more than a full term now, you don't think his arrest has anything to do with the events of yesterday and today.

Of course they don't.

Originally posted by Ryanp5555
We complain that the US didn't act fast enough with the information that there was likely to be a terrorist attack on the US. yet here, you say its a conspiracy because they acted suddenly? I don't see how someone can take one point of view, and then question why someone else would act in a way similar to that point of view. They were pre-empting the damage. The truth is, we have no idea how close he was to putting someone in the senate, but it seems to me that acting sooner than later was better for everyone.

So your point of view is saying they did what they could as soon as they possibly could. In other words, this info had to have come to light yesterday? Because "as soon as they possibly could" and "pre-empting the damage" would mean that they just got something on the wiretaps last night and arrested him this morning.

You even say yourself we have no idea how close he was to putting someone in that seat.

So how do we know he was any closer yesterday than he was two days ago? A week ago? A month ago?

I guess I am letting personal bias get in the way here. I've moved beyond a simple BoA link. This guy has been a crook the entire time he's been in office and has committed multiple crimes and the FBI was WATCHING HIM THE ENTIRE TIME? And didn't ARREST HIM SOONER?

It's like they wanted to wait until something that the whole nation cares about (Obama's replacement) before they did anything.

THAT'S what I have beef with ... not that they suddenly went after him but that they suddenly went after him after letting him run the Illinois state government into the ground for multiple years. They should have arrested him back in '04 or '05. Why wait til this unless you have an ulterior motive? I admit I have no idea what that is (Fitz saving his own ass? Obama info? BoA?).

Again, I'd like to see the FBI let me commit numerous crimes without consequence. Fat chance. I would expect if I commit a crime, I would get arrested for it ... and I expect nothing less for our elected officials.

Originally posted by Ryanp5555

Originally posted by turbokid
why wouldnt they wait till he appointed the highest bidder to the seat and bust the whole thing wide open, including the person who agreed to the bribe. seems odd.

I'm not sure there is a case against the person who agreed to be extorted and at that point there may be nothing the state could do to get that person out of office until 2010.

Bribery is a crime for the extortioner and the extorted. If someone pays or attempts to pay a bribe, they are committing the same crime as the person who accepts it.

Originally posted by turbokid
why wouldnt they wait till he appointed the highest bidder to the seat and bust the whole thing wide open, including the person who agreed to the bribe. seems odd.

Please...oh please...why isn't anyone reading the thread before posting?

Once someone has been officially appointed to the seat it opens up a whole other legal/political mess...anybody notice that Senator Stephens from Alaska was still able to run for his Senate seat AFTER he was convicted on corruption charges!!!???

If they waited then whoever bought the seat would likely serve in the Senate for months until a complete case was made and impeachment or jail time caught up to them.

Why put the tax payers or the US Senate through an impeachment hearing when they could stop it NOW?

Anyone who was willing to pay Blag..they have on tape and will likely be charged with something like "conspiracy to defraud the public".

reply to post by drwizardphd


Right. And if aides or staffers knew about it but didn't report it, it's Mis-Prison of a Felony. Everyone goes down.

[edit on 9/12/2008 by kosmicjack]

Originally posted by Fiverz
This guy has been a crook the entire time he's been in office and has committed multiple crimes and the FBI was WATCHING HIM THE ENTIRE TIME? And didn't ARREST HIM SOONER?

It's like they wanted to wait until something that the whole nation cares about (Obama's replacement) before they did anything.

THAT'S what I have beef with ... not that they suddenly went after him but that they suddenly went after him after letting him run the Illinois state government into the ground for multiple years. They should have arrested him back in '04 or '05. Why wait til this unless you have an ulterior motive? I admit I have no idea what that is (Fitz saving his own ass? Obama info? BoA?).

it might be wise to check out who gets to appoint the senator now that the governer cant.
maybe "someone" didnt like who he was going to appoint and let the dogs loose.
i'd watch closely on how they go about filling that seat.

You've got to be kidding me. This guy commits alleged crimes not related at all to banking but the banks got him arrested? Come on, that's more than a little bit of a stretch!

Questioning is fine, just be sure you bring your common sense with you!

Cheers!

I live in Illinois, and it came as no surprise to me, a high school student, to hear that the governor had been arrested today. I highly doubt that there is any conspiracy behind this. My question is more like, "What kind of money did he make out of barring state agencies from doing business with B of A?"
Sources say that he was talking to organizations affiliated with unions in order to get money for Obama's Senate seat. On top of this, he has been trying to shake the widespread belief that he is crooked for quite some time now. At least, this B of A decision was to try to show people that he is NOT corrupt. If there is any motivation behind the move to arrest him today, it would probably be disgust from the feds after seeing him put on that huge act.

If there truly was some kind of conspiracy to keep the good guys (or girls in this case) out of business, then they would be going after the Illinois Attorney General.

Originally posted by Fiverz

Originally posted by Ryanp5555
We complain that the US didn't act fast enough with the information that there was likely to be a terrorist attack on the US. yet here, you say its a conspiracy because they acted suddenly? I don't see how someone can take one point of view, and then question why someone else would act in a way similar to that point of view. They were pre-empting the damage. The truth is, we have no idea how close he was to putting someone in the senate, but it seems to me that acting sooner than later was better for everyone.

So your point of view is saying they did what they could as soon as they possibly could. In other words, this info had to have come to light yesterday? Because "as soon as they possibly could" and "pre-empting the damage" would mean that they just got something on the wiretaps last night and arrested him this morning.

You even say yourself we have no idea how close he was to putting someone in that seat.

So how do we know he was any closer yesterday than he was two days ago? A week ago? A month ago?

I guess I am letting personal bias get in the way here. I've moved beyond a simple BoA link. This guy has been a crook the entire time he's been in office and has committed multiple crimes and the FBI was WATCHING HIM THE ENTIRE TIME? And didn't ARREST HIM SOONER?

It's like they wanted to wait until something that the whole nation cares about (Obama's replacement) before they did anything.

THAT'S what I have beef with ... not that they suddenly went after him but that they suddenly went after him after letting him run the Illinois state government into the ground for multiple years. They should have arrested him back in '04 or '05. Why wait til this unless you have an ulterior motive? I admit I have no idea what that is (Fitz saving his own ass? Obama info? BoA?).

Again, I'd like to see the FBI let me commit numerous crimes without consequence. Fat chance. I would expect if I commit a crime, I would get arrested for it ... and I expect nothing less for our elected officials.

no, my point of view was that they acted as soon as they could with "as soon as they could" meaning as soon as they had a solid case of selling the seat.


Maybe you're right, maybe there is something deeper. It just isn't BoA. Here is a conspiracy: maybe he was going to reveal something bad about Obama, since Obama refused to contribute anything more to him than his appreciation.

And to Drwizard, maybe they went with their morals and decided that they would rather act before another person committed a crime. It seems to me that this would be breaking news regardless, might as well nip it, if you are going to do that, as soon as possible, and not allow an extra person to commit a crime.

[edit on 9-12-2008 by Ryanp5555]

Originally posted by maybereal11

Originally posted by turbokid
why wouldnt they wait till he appointed the highest bidder to the seat and bust the whole thing wide open, including the person who agreed to the bribe. seems odd.

Please...oh please...why isn't anyone reading the thread before posting?

Once someone has been officially appointed to the seat it opens up a whole other legal/political mess...anybody notice that Senator Stephens from Alaska was still able to run for his Senate seat AFTER he was convicted on corruption charges!!!???

If they waited then whoever bought the seat would likely serve in the Senate for months until a complete case was made and impeachment or jail time caught up to them.

Why put the tax payers or the US Senate through an impeachment hearing when they could stop it NOW?

Anyone who was willing to pay Blag..they have on tape and will likely be charged with something like "conspiracy to defraud the public".

ok, but it would be an easier case dont you think? we have a governer putting the seat up to the highest bidder, and then we have the highest bidder who gets in and we have dirt on all the things he offered for the seat. the full circle.
it seems you could take more of the corruption out of the system by removing the crooked person willing to give the money for the seat as well. right?

reply to post by drwizardphd

We're all just miffed that nothing was done about it until he took on Bank of America!!!

Could it be that there wasn't enough evidence to convict him?

First, we know several people who have worked for the governor, and who work in a related field now: all three of them said to us just last week that Patrick Fitzgerald, the prosecutor, does not have enough evidence to convict the Governor. No one says the Governor didn’t do the things CBS alleges — it’s just that they don’t believe there’s enough evidence for an indictment, let alone a conviction.

source

And they arrested him now because of a different crime he committed like trying to sell the seat of a US Senator and now they have evidence to convict him in this crime.

Originally posted by Helmkat
Ok ATS-ites (is that a word?).

I live in Illinois.

Our Governor is a 100% joke. Just delve into the antics that have gone on here in Illinois since this guy has come into office. I'm also here to tell you the Bank issue is totally seperate from these crimes, he was under investigation long before any of this bank business. He is a great one for jumping on band wagons and I am shamed to say he is the governor of my state.

When this broke everyone I work with (all Ill residents) basically said "I hope they lock him away."

Exactly, well said. I have lived in Illinois all of my life and when I heard this on the radio today at work I said "Its about damn time." We've been waiting for this for ahwile, I dont think Illinois has ever had an honest Governor, but who has, rofl!!

I guess us in Illinois understand while the rest of you think this is some part of a conspiracy, not everything is you know.

reply to post by jamstrat


Some folks want a conspiracy at any cost...

And you can take that to the Bank.

Originally posted by Ryanp5555
no, my point of view was that they acted as soon as they could with "as soon as they could" meaning as soon as they had a solid case of selling the seat.


Maybe you're right, maybe there is something deeper. It just isn't BoA. Here is a conspiracy: maybe he was going to reveal something bad about Obama, since Obama refused to contribute anything more to him than his appreciation.

And to Frivers, maybe they went with their morals and decided that they would rather act before another person committed a crime. It seems to me that this would be breaking news regardless, might as well nip it, if you are going to do that, as soon as possible, and not allow an extra person to commit a crime.

That Obama link could very well be (that's what I mean by Obama info). I don't post a lot on this board, but I'm definitely open to changing my mind when I do (and have on a couple of threads). I still see something fishy, maybe not BoA, but come on Ryan you know this guy's been a slouch since he got in. I'm glad they got him before he did appoint someone who would be just as crooked, but why did they let him go on and on with the corruption for the last 3 years? Isn't that some type of crime when the FBI has someone under surveillance but lets him commit offense after offense, running a state into the ground, while just waiting for the "big one" to hook him on?

At any rate this thread and whole issue has just cemented the idea in my head that no matter what we do as people, voters, constituents, whatever ... we have no real control over what our elected officals do and what goes on behind the scenes.

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Originally posted by drwizardphd

Originally posted by Cuhail
Don't you see why EVERY ILLINOIAN that has posted to this thread is relieved that the law, whatever it's motivation is, is coming here to clean up the corruption? Don't you hear it in the blogs about Gov. Blago's arrest? Do you understand that we, as Illinoisans, WANT some integrity to grace our Capital's halls?

My god, you just don't get it.

NOBODY has said that he shouldn't go to jail!

We're all just miffed that nothing was done about it until he took on Bank of America!!!

THAT is what this is all about! The rest of America hates corrupt politicians just as much as you folks from Illinois do! I for one am glad that he got arrested. I am pissed that it took action against BoA to get him arrested. Understand?

Originally posted by turbokid

THIS JUST BREAKING

on fox Bank of America just said that NOW they will extend loans to that windows factory where the workers are sitting in..

not sure what to make of this yet but its interesting!!!

I had to chuckle at this. Pretty much confirms everything we have been claiming. Big old Bank of America to save the day, just hours after he is arrested. If there is STILL anyone with any doubts that this is all about the banks, seriously get with it.


Just to reiterate: We all hate this corrupt governor. People from Illinois you are not alone. For some reason though, even though you've been exposed to this guys bull# for more than a full term now, you don't think his arrest has anything to do with the events of yesterday and today.

Of course they don't.

I agree totally.

Of course they don't.

Blago made his comment about the Bank, totally counting on the bank caving. He only chimed in on the BOA subject after others had (typical) and tried to make himself look important.

Typical Blago trying to cash in on public sentiment by being a master of the obvious. He threatened the "not do business" routine knowing full well he was probably not going to have to carry through.

This is S.O.P. for this guy folks.

So yes, the timing is not an issue.