Illinois Govenor Who Suspends State Business With B of A Taken Into Federal Custody

reply to post by drwizardphd


Might be hard to understand if you don't live in the State. There is no conspiracy with B of A. Blago and his adminsitration have been under investigation for years.

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reply to post by Odessy

I wonder how many of these charges are legit.

All of them. You need to read up on Pat Fitzgerald.

reply to post by drwizardphd



He did take on Bank of America that day.

No.

He announced his "end business with BOA" the day before he was arrested.

People in his administraction knew he what he was doing with BOA, even those who were lining him up the next day for arrest.

Now if he had been arrested before the BOA coverage and word leaked out that the arrest occured before he could make the speech -then- I would say you have something to go on as far as timing is concerned.

Originally posted by drwizardphd
reply to post by maybereal11

 

I wasn't trying to be offensive, but it just seems so obvious.

The governor wasn't going to announce the successor to Obama's seat that day.

He did take on Bank of America that day.

And now they're saying he might still be able to appoint Obama's seat anyway.

He was going to annouce the appointment today or tomorrow. That is what the feds said they got from the wire-taps.

Yes he still can make the appointment under indictment....BUT this is the tricky part...If he appoints anyone that he has been trying to collect money from (which is everyone that he was considering)...then he makes the case of the prosecution that much stronger

They have cornered him in this regard.

If he decides to retain the right to appoint the Senate Seat while he has been charged, then his only option would be to appoint someone that he hasn't tried to man-handle for money to make the case for his defense easier.

EITHER WAY...if they didn't intercede NOW, he would have given the seat to someone that was likely corrupt and had agreed to offer him Money.

Then the feds would be going after not just a Govenor, but a US Senator and they would have to explain to everyone how they were aware and let a corrupt Senator be appointed, go to washington and pass laws etc...

They had no choice.

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This smells of a setup...

how (out of the blue) he is all of a sudden (corrupt) when he was taking on the (banks) one day, then immediately after, arrested for some SH!T the next.

this gave me goose bumps...

were in for a BUMPY road...

May you all meet in the astral, and then reflect on what went wrong.

Originally posted by mybigunit

Originally posted by drwizardphd
I don't understand how so many people here can fail to put together the obvious truths.

I will break it down numerically for easier digestion:

1. Corrupt governor plunders Illinois for years.

2. Corrupt governor does something for the "little guy" and takes on Bank of America in his state.

3. The VERY NEXT DAY, corrupt governor is arrested on months/years old charges against him.

If you can't put these three together, GET OFF THESE FORUMS and go take some critical thinking classes at your local university. Please.

Star for you sir. I tried to make it as simple as possible for the people who really dont critically think but you my friend made it so simple anyone can understand.

It's not about critically thinking. Most people on here who deny this live in Illinois and know a little more than you about the whole situation. Bago# has been under investigation for months, it was only a matter of time before he was arrested. Combine that with the fact that he was going to sell a position in the US Senate to the highest bidder and this was going to be done soon, that's grounds to move ASAP. He would have been arrested today if he didn't say anything about BoA. Somethings just aren't conspiracies as much as you want them to be. This happens to be one of them. Unless of course you beleive that Gov. Ryan's arrest by Peter Fitzgerald had anything to do with the banks. Let it be known to all Governors of Illinois, Fitzgerald is gonna get you if you are a crook.


As far as the conspiracy goes, you have people who are closer to this whole thing than you and yet you insist that your outside knowledge of this, your view which is so minute, is absolutely correct. Did Fitzgerald bug his telephone and his office in anticipation of him doing BoA in? Did he get reports from Children's Memorial Hospital, the Chicago Tribune, and other places in anticpation of BoA? Did Fitgerald collect records on how he was trying to sell the senate seat in anticpation of BoA? If your answer is no to these questions then it is NOT linked to BoA. Fitgerald was building a criminal report on him to ARREST him. He wasn't doing it for any other reason. And look, he was arrested.

reply to post by maybereal11

If the FBI allowed him to make that appointment under corrupt circumstances, then they would have a WHOLE OTHER BAG OF WORMS to deal with having stood by and let a US Senator be appointed under potential illegal circumstances ...

Excellent thinking...

Starred

Originally posted by mybigunit
Right but why now? Why arrest now? Im sick of all of these "coincidences" all the "spin" when someone who opposes the international banking cartel gets killed or gets jail time. If Blogovich was the only person yea I would see your point but there is to many people that end up dead after opposition to the "system"

list them for us will you?

I for one am tired of the BS conspiracy theories with nothign to back them up but "sounds good to me" rhetoric.

Back up what you just said with facts..


specifically THIS part:
Im sick of all of these "coincidences" all the "spin" when someone who opposes the international banking cartel gets killed or gets jail time.

Who, where, when.. not just more BS.. facts please.




(that annoying sound you now hear is crickets chirping...)

Originally posted by ugie1028
This smells of a setup...

how (out of the blue) he is all of a sudden (corrupt) when he was taking on the (banks) one day, then immediately after, arrested for some SH!T the next.

NOT "all of a sudden (corrupt)"

Please read the articles or the thread posts...

He has been under investigation for years. Those of us that live in Chicago have been reading about this and been waiting for this for a long time.

Everyone knew about the ongoing investigation...which really makes Gov Blag. an idiot or arrogant or both seeing as he thought he could keep doing what he was doing even with the FBI breathing down his kneck.

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[edit on 9-12-2008 by maybereal11]

Originally posted by gormly

Originally posted by mybigunit
Right but why now? Why arrest now? Im sick of all of these "coincidences" all the "spin" when someone who opposes the international banking cartel gets killed or gets jail time. If Blogovich was the only person yea I would see your point but there is to many people that end up dead after opposition to the "system"

list them for us will you?

I for one am tired of the BS conspiracy theories with nothign to back them up but "sounds good to me" rhetoric.

Back up what you just said with facts..


specifically THIS part:
Im sick of all of these "coincidences" all the "spin" when someone who opposes the international banking cartel gets killed or gets jail time.

Who, where, when.. not just more BS.. facts please.




(that annoying sound you now hear is crickets chirping...)

Hmmmm here is an idea now its kind of a far fetched idea but before you post crap like this why not read the thread because if you did which I know you never do but if you did you would see I created a thread and posted the link 2x on this thread showing a few people who have been killed or lost their positions after taking on the international banking crime family. Now here Ill post it a third time just for you ok?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now there are many more that can be added on the list that is just a few.

Originally posted by drwizardphd

Originally posted by Helmkat
10 Helium balloons tied together do not a visitor from another planet make and no amount of critical thinking will make it so.

What?

I am saying perhaps you are making something into other then what it is.

Your critical thinking was missing a huge number of steps. The BOA coverage happened before the arrest. The day before that it was revealed his best buddy was carry a wire and Blago talks to the press all panicky. The noose was closing tight, residents of Illinois knew it before BOA even was thought of in all of this.

Here is a test for you. How many other politicans who spoke out about BOA got arrested.

Oh thats right -none-.

Oh wait. Maybe Obama IS next!!!

President-elect Barack Obama, whose home is 12 miles from the factory, in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood, said at a Sunday press conference the workers are “absolutely right” to demand their severance and vacation pay.

“These workers, if they have earned these benefits and their pay, then these companies need to follow through on those commitments,” said Obama, who gave up his U.S. Senate seat from Illinois last month.

Originally posted by ugie1028
This smells of a setup...

how (out of the blue) he is all of a sudden (corrupt) when he was taking on the (banks) one day, then immediately after, arrested for some SH!T the next.

this gave me goose bumps...

were in for a BUMPY road...

May you all meet in the astral, and then reflect on what went wrong.

This is anything but out of the blue. If you would have asked anyone in Illinois if they thought Gov. Blag. was corrupt their answer woulda been yes, unless they were blind. Look the man spent 15,000 a sign on these signs that go over Illiinois' I-Pass lanes that read something along the line of "GOVERNOR ROD BLAGOVICH PRESENTS: ILLINOIS I-PASS" These signs are at every toll, except maybe the ones leaving the highway, and it cost the state hundreds of thousands of extra dollars, maybe millions. This is money the tax payers were gonna have to pay, and these signs are just gonna be taken down when the next Governor comes into office. That just shows this man's lack of character. There have been hundreds of reports over the years of how corrupt this man is. Our last governor is in prison. When asked a few years ago if Illinois is the most corrupt state in the US one of Fitzgeralds associates replied that he doesn't have a report on the other 50 states. This time he reaffirmed that statement and went on to say, "If it isn't the most corrupt state, it is definitly in the competition." Corruption in our gov't is nothing new if you live in Illinois. If you live in Illinois and you woke up today and saw that headline you wouldn't drop your coffee and be like WHAT!?!?! Your reaction would be more subtle, and it would have been, well its about time. Is Daley next? This state is still run by the Mob, and the ringleader is Richard M. Daley. So, out of the blue? Absolutely not.

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They investigated the guy for not months but years. They had plenty of time to nail this guy instead of letting him continue to plunder like he has been doing. They choose after he says F U to the big banks to go ahead and arrest him. Please dont say they did this so he couldnt pick the Obama seat either because he still gets to pick the seat. They had plenty of time to get this guy period. If the timing is not suspicious then I dont know what else to say.

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All of the sudden and Out of the blue is your view only. Those of us that LIVE HERE in Illinois and are affected by his running of the State see it and HAVE seen it for years now. This isn't new, it's about time.

They HAVE backed him into a corner. A very treacherous corner. ANYBODY he appoints is going to have a very close look taken at them. This may just open up the sinkhole and expose a lot more than what- you who don't live in this Illinois jungle- may even believe.

State contracts are going to be investigated (Blago). County contracts are going to be scrutinized (John Stroger Jr.). City contracts are going to be scrutinized (Daley and the Ward bosses).

You all are going to get a glimpse of what we deal with everyday here in Illinois. This is three + years into the investigations and it's still just the surface being swept. You will all be amazed at how it "works" here, trust me.

Cuhail

Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by maybereal11

 

If the FBI allowed him to make that appointment under corrupt circumstances, then they would have a WHOLE OTHER BAG OF WORMS to deal with having stood by and let a US Senator be appointed under potential illegal circumstances ...

Excellent thinking...

Starred

Thanks Jam. I can't take full credit as the Fibs said in a news conference today that their wire-taps led them to believe that he was going to make the Senate Seat appointment today or tomorrow and that was the motivation for arresting him.

If they hadn't...just think of the consequences if they didn't intercede. What a mess it would be if they knowlingly allowed a Senate seat to be sold and the explaining they would have to do...and then the legal/political mess of charging and removing that Senator from office...and what about the laws he votes on in the interim...all the time the FBI knowing he bought the seat? it would be really messy and heads at the FBI would definetly roll...they had no choice but to move now before the appointment was made.

Originally posted by Helmkat


Here is a test for you. How many other politicans who spoke out about BOA got arrested.

Oh thats right -none-.

Oh wait. Maybe Obama IS next!!!

President-elect Barack Obama, whose home is 12 miles from the factory, in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood, said at a Sunday press conference the workers are “absolutely right” to demand their severance and vacation pay.

“These workers, if they have earned these benefits and their pay, then these companies need to follow through on those commitments,” said Obama, who gave up his U.S. Senate seat from Illinois last month.

So Obama makes a statement, and Mr. Corrupt Governor (still not gonna try to spell his name) takes action. Do you see the difference there?

I already said that I was aware the guy was under investigation. That's clear from the article. Its also clear from the article that he's been pulling this sort of stuff for awhile. The fact that he's been corrupt for so long only adds to the link between the BoA incident yesterday and his arrest today.

You don't find it odd that there is no mention of yesterday's events in the article? If I recall correctly, its a journalists job to pick up on little things like that and report on them. Unless of course, they get a letter from their boss telling them not to.

You can claim I'm making balloons into flying saucers all you want. That's the exact mentality TPTB would like you to have. Skepticism even in the face of overwhelming evidence. In President Bush's own words, "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories". He has won you over sir.

Originally posted by mybigunit
reply to post by Ryanp5555

 

They investigated the guy for not months but years. They had plenty of time to nail this guy instead of letting him continue to plunder like he has been doing. They choose after he says F U to the big banks to go ahead and arrest him. Please dont say they did this so he couldnt pick the Obama seat either because he still gets to pick the seat. They had plenty of time to get this guy period. If the timing is not suspicious then I dont know what else to say.

Lol, yeah they investigated the guy for years, when I said months I was refering to the Wire tap, which i beleive Fitz. placed on his phone 8 weeks ago, at least that is what I thought he said. Anywho, the wire tap is direct evidence that they were getting closer to making an arrest. And it was because the of the senate seat. Not because he said FU to ONE big bank. You're failing to make the logical connection here: Why did Fitz. begin investigating and compling a report on Blag. then? If it was to eventually make an arrest, than you cant say this was done because of the bank, because it happened long before that! And tryiing to sell a Senate seat is some pretty serious stuff! They weren't making an investigation to get him into jail, they want him away for as long as possible. And as Fitzgerald said, the Senate seat crossed the line, he couldn't in good conscience not arrest him if the result would put someone into the US Senate because they would pay the highest (which shows a tendency to be corrupt on their part). And while he still does have the power to put someone into the Senate, it just won't happen now. Blag. will probably resign, if he doesn't resign who would want to be placed into the Senate by him with the magnifying glass on them like that? On top of that, Blag. now knows that he is probably going to jail for a while, and would not want to increase that time by actually accepting someone, or causing anymore scandal. So, please, quit with the conspiracy.

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The DOJ has dirt on ALL of the politicians in some form or another. Now in cases like this where people stray from the flock so to speak this guy has serious enough offenses to go ahead and take the guys power away like they did to Elliot Spitzer. For people they dont have good dirt on they go ahead and suicide them or straight up murder them. Most of the politicians out there are just as corrupt the only difference is you get to see one in the main stream. You have to ask yourself why do these other corrupt politicians not get arrested?

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Be careful there, mybig pal, you just might end up on your own list!!!

Originally posted by mybigunit
reply to post by Ryanp5555

 

They investigated the guy for not months but years. They had plenty of time to nail this guy instead of letting him continue to plunder like he has been doing. They choose after he says F U to the big banks to go ahead and arrest him. Please dont say they did this so he couldnt pick the Obama seat either because he still gets to pick the seat. They had plenty of time to get this guy period. If the timing is not suspicious then I dont know what else to say.

I honestly can understand where you are coming from, I really do. From the outside this looks like "WOW, that timing is more then a little suspicious" but you say "plenty of time" like those in charge of the investigation woke up each morning and said

"Should we arrest Blago today? Nah lets let him plunder some more."

and then when he made the announcement about BOA said

"OMG Blago is speaking out about a Bank! how come our wires and informants never told us about this! Darn if we had only arrested him yesterday we could of avoided all this mess. Now we will have to get all our Illinois spies on ATS to try an debunk this. Heads will roll!!!"



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