Germany to Cause WW3

reply to post by nh_ee


Precisely, given the most outlandish scenario the blame could still not be placed on Germany as they have nothing to gain economically from it.

It would be like a kid throwing rocks at police cars as they drive by.

Yeah, it's all Germany's fault, all Germans are nazis, can't wait to take over the world, and kill Jews. People need to let go of WWII, and get a grip on reality. Dictatorialism has hardly happened the same way twice in history. We're seeing it happen now in the United States, but there will always be those rearward facing people that will blame Germany. Personally, I can't wait till all the WWII generation from all sides of the conflict die out. Then, we can finally bury the past, and move on with the future as far as WWII, and Germany goes.

/Born in Esslingen
//Just a lousy kraut to the WWII folk

reply to post by blowfishdl



Your the worst debater I have yet to encounter on any subject in ats

Seriously, it's pathetic to degrade this into some attack on me personally as if I have some animosity to Germany when... I'm calling for the disillusion of Israel in the name of peace and world security and saying that Germany shouldn't sell them WMD delivery systems

You have zero understanding of the subject matter at hand, honestly your a troll and i'm done responding to this, it's a waste of my time...

Germany sold Israel a delivery system that could allow them to Nuclear strike Iran and made a pre-emtive Israeli strike possible

If you think that was a good decision, your entitled to have that opinion, as is any body

But if you think you have made a point by driveling this into bizarre false hoods and race accusations as If I have some beef with Germany your wrong and your lack of knowledge on the subject shows through massively in your inability to confront the On Issue I bring up

reply to post by blowfishdl


They sold 3 subs to a nation that has openly stated that they intend to take out another nation.

It's no different than Russia Supplying Iran with what it needs to do the same to Israel

It's one upmanship

and it's one upmanship with people on both sides that have Every Intention of starting the fight

Irresponsible

Foolish

and, it could trigger WW3

We as Americans "supposedly" at least were led to believe that this sort of thing was why we went to war...

Us or our allies doing the same thing is wrong it's Hypocritical

Facts are Fact

Nothing an no amount of sad unjustified conclusions or personal attacks changes them

Germany sold Israel what it needs to take out Iran

America refused them even the Raptor and has limited what we give them at this point and time.

(although still too much)

They fueled this war if it comes to pass and from an inside perspective, these people want to actually do this to Iran and Vice Versa I believe from Inside portions of Iran the reverse

It's fuel on a fire

If it Ignites they share Blame

Pander to a crowd of no nothings and say I beat a dead horse all you like people who speak truth with out reservation are the truest minority of all

99% of people responding to this can't even grasp the concept that you can cause a war with all the good intentions in the world, so why should I care?

Apparently if your people all talk Liberal then your Govt can sell WMD delivery systems but if they talk tough you can't...fascinating

Sort of like Obamas election freeing in many ways Us of the crimes of the last 10 years

We elect a Liberal, nothing in the Pentagon changes but suddenly we are not responsible for the past

works for me in this scenario, but doesn't make it right

the bankers started all the wars, they will start the last too. The forth one will be with stones and stiks as Einstein said..

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by blowfishdl

 

Your the worst debater I have yet to encounter on any subject in ats

.. and your the worst conspiracy theorist I have yet to come encounter with PERIOD. Even Nibiru supporters show evidence of some sort.

reply to post by blowfishdl


all this from a guy who signed up 18 months ago and made only 6 friends, posted 110 Threads 75 of which never got over 10 responses and another 16 never over 20

90% failure rate pal

Your theories certainly light the conspiracy world on fire.

A page or so back it became evident you hadn't even read nor understood what I was referring to in terms of the submarine purchase and have gone off on a tangent of all sorts of personal speculative nonsense

Rather than just say

Oh, I misunderstood your point

so is it any wonder why only 6 people in almost 2 years list you as a person to deny ignorance with?

reply to post by mopusvindictus


I understand your upset that nobody agrees with you that Germany is this evil country that is going to kill all the Jews again and stir up WW3, however the personal attacks will need to stop.

I simply will state the same thing I have mentioned to you numerous times in this thread. You will need to provide evidence to your claims, which you have not yet provided a shred of.

reply to post by xXxArMaGeDdOnxXx


Wow please share in which college you are discussing this with. I will stay clear of there. Your argument, or lack there of is flawed and Germany has come a long way since ww2. They are part of the euro and Europe's largest economy. Germany i'm sure if so "sneaky" today would again experience a rise in inflation and they surely have not forgotten the past. The only argument about this is I was listening to staff representing Harvard and Princeton university talking about how europe is in much worse financial straights than the U.S. That being because the European nations have no federal reserve type of bank backing the Euro. It will turn into every country for itself and may become a rising conflict. Other than that I can't give you much credit to any argument you may come up with.

reply to post by blowfishdl


I never once said Germany was a bad country, just that it was a huge mistake to sell Israel a Submarine system that can allow a pre emtive Nuclear strike

which is 100% valid

again, baiting me with Troll comments

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by blowfishdl

 

I never once said Germany was a bad country, just that it was a huge mistake to sell Israel a Submarine system that can allow a pre emtive Nuclear strike

which is 100% valid

again, baiting me with Troll comments

You baited yourself with this flawed thread with no supporting evidence.

If you think Germany selling submarines to Israel is going to cause a pre-emptive nuclear strike then why don't you blame the people who are actually providing Israel with nuclear weapons (USA)?

It simply doesn't add up.

and btw, I was awarded bonus points for my contribution in this thread

I am agreed with, no one wants to deal with you since i'm doing a good enough job, that's all, not every one spends their day killing trolls, we take turns

It's gonna be either USA or Israel (possible pre-emptive strike on Iran) possibly due to a false flag terror attack.

Germany won't start another war...

But the yanks will no doubt defend their jewish overlords when they Israeli's take yet another step towards ruining the middle east.

reply to post by blowfishdl


We haven't provided them with nukes in about 30 years at least that's why

You'd know that if you stuck to the fact, current policy has us limiting sales of certain technology to Israel for the most part either by number or entirely.

So our transgressions are starting to be dealt with

and

I would add

I have repeatedly agreed we are as much to blame, i simply add, that our Nato partners not obstructing this are equally to blame by being allied with us when we commit these actions

particularly those that sell key components

This one in particular was the key to being able to strike Iran, from a military standpoint it is huge

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
and btw, I was awarded bonus points for my contribution in this thread

I am agreed with, no one wants to deal with you since i'm doing a good enough job, that's all, not every one spends their day killing trolls, we take turns

Hahaha! Your contribution so far has been merely speculation. Every country is going to trade and sell weaponry, and submarines are no different.

How do you feel about the US trading weapons with present day Al Quaida?

By the way let's note how small the German Army is:
A total of 101,000 soldiers are currently on active service in the German Army.[1] Of these, approximately 17,000 are conscripts. Additionally, a further 35,000 personnel are reservists of the German Army reserve force.

Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by blowfishdl

 

We haven't provided them with nukes in about 30 years at least that's why

You'd know that if you stuck to the fact, current policy has us limiting sales of certain technology to Israel for the most part either by number or entirely.

So our transgressions are starting to be dealt with

and

I would add

I have repeatedly agreed we are as much to blame, i simply add, that our Nato partners not obstructing this are equally to blame by being allied with us when we commit these actions

particularly those that sell key components

This one in particular was the key to being able to strike Iran, from a military standpoint it is huge

First off I clearly doubt it has been 30 years since we traded nukes with Israel considering the growing threat in the East of suppossed militant countries.

But let's assume your right. It only takes one nuke buddy.

reply to post by mr-lizard


I'd agree,

Istael has too much clout over the US, to a degree our govt fears the Mossad and what they could do if we chose to turn against them, we did indeed create a monster and as a jew, i really don't want to be dragged into to the fire along with them when they do something reprehensible out of fear and don't think anyone should support what's going on either in Israel or Iran

reply to post by mopusvindictus


You keep mentioning that your a Jew, and that WW3 will be started by Germany.

Does nobody else think this sounds like repressed anger towards the holocaust?

reply to post by blowfishdl


I think alqueda and Israel are both Monsters created by this practice of giving arms to those who's philosophies date to the 12-14th centuries

That's what I think

and continuation of those policies by any nation given the results is a worse transgression because we can clearly see from this perspective what it has caused

My parents used to say "we started smoking because we didn't know it caused cancer " (of which my mother died btw)

so..I smoke and I knew

who's the bigger dummy?

Me of course in that instance

We decided 8 years ago, supposedly to fight to prevent rouge nations from having WMD's my own people or not...Israel has fast become these years a bit of a rouge nation and, we and Germany and others persist on selling them... a WMD delivery system.

It's a continuation of a failed policy that has only led to more war and never caused peace and makes a hypocrisy of our stated beliefs...

even on a level in which it doesn't become WW3 (which I believe it very well can right now) it's still a huge hypocrisy

reply to post by blowfishdl


Not when i'm actually rallying against Israel

I just think Germany is doing exactly the opposite of what it should be in taking responsibility to Israel

I know the intent is to do good, but it's a giant mistake

The people who died in Germany were innocent and the Germans who did it were rotten

Today the opposite is true!

Israel is endangering the world

What it needs is tough Love... not More weapons systems, the people are paranoid and fanatic on the subject

Israels creation was, a mistake, there have been a good 10 wars as a result in the time frame.

there is no Love for the culture in the region, it can never end well

The Jews regardless of weapons systems will inevitably loose, one way or another and the reality is, it's time to stop the support of Israel and encourage immigration away from it

Because elements in the region will not rest until this is done, we can't kill a Billion people nor should we let them for the sake of a strip of land that... has caused more blood to be shed already than any in the world

Enabling them to.... wipe the region, as much as and I'll admit I dislike the culture of Islam, they are People, real people and most of them just want to live their lives

we can't allow

let alone aid Israel, in both it's own suicide and self fulfilling prophecy of a 2nd holocaust while simultaneously allowing it to set fire to all those people