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Originally posted by dave420
reply to post by yeahright
I'd like to read the rest of that chapter as from that brief preview, it looks like he's saying they are real, and he even states that no-one in authority is talking about it, and he's not mentioned any evidence for their existence (yet). I'm sure he's not on the chemtrail bandwagon, as if he is, well, I definitely won't be buying that book!
Originally posted by TruthTellist
Chemtrails are not from regular commercial aviation, they are a secret operation which is criminal in my opinion because it may use my tax dollars on the unethical modification of the climate. I do not accept "weather modification" as a normal activity in my world. I reject it, no matter how many posts you throw at me saying "weather modification is ok".
Originally posted by Zepherian
Here's my suggestion regarding this topic, the next time chemtrails are over a major, or minor, metropolitan area, people should film and document them, and then compare the flightpaths with official data for civilian air traffic, and also get ATC reports on the planes in the air from FOIA (in the US or it's equivalents in the western world), then form a dossier and upload it to various sources as well as a torrent, so it is in effect distributed beyond suppression techniques abilities to repress it.
Originally posted by TruthTellist
reply to post by dave420
*You are clearly Feigning ignorance of the vast amounts of relevant literature and research that is available.
Spraying Heavy Metals To Stop Global Warming
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Extinction at Grand Canyon National Park." In Visual Air Quality" Aerosols and Global Radiation Balance, Air and
Waste Management Association, Pittsburgh, Pa., 683-697, 1997.
Marcus Dalton, "Chemtrails Are Over Las Vegas." Las Vegas Tribune, vol. 7 Issue 3, 8/19/05
S.L. Baughcum, "Subsonic aircraft emission inventories, In:Atmospheric Effects of Aviation:First Report of the
Subsonic Assessment Project." NASA RP-1385, pp. 15-29, 1996
Bill Gallagher, "Chemical Aurora Keyhole Surveillance." Arizona Indymedia, May 2004
Laura Kelly, "Mysterious powder shrouds area." The Alpenhorn News, Feb. 2006
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Weather mod. patent Numbers
6569393-5/27/03-Method and Device for Cleaning the Atmosphere.
6520425-2/18/03-Process and Apparatus for the Production and aerial dispersion of Nanofibers.
6412416-7/2/02-Propellant-Based Aerosol Generation Devices and Method.
6315213-11/13/01-Method of Modifying Weather.
6263744-7/24/01-Automated Mobility-Classified-Aerosol Detector.
6056203-5/2/00-Method and Apparatus for Modifying Supercooled Clouds.
6030506-2/29/00-Preparation of Independently Generated Highly Reactive Chemical Species.
5984239-11/16/99-Weather Modification by Artificial Satellite.
5762298-6/9/98-Use of Artificial Satellites in Earth Orbits Adaptively to Modify the Effect that Solar Radiation
Would Otherwise Have on Earth's Weather.
5628455-5/13/97-Method and Apparatus for Modification of Supercooled Fog.
5286979-2/15/94-Process for Absorbing Ultraviolet Radiation Using Dispersed Melanin.
5104069-4/114/92-Apparatus and Method for Ejecting Matter from an Aircraft.
5038664-8/13/94-Method for Producing a Shell of Relativisitic Particles at an Altitude Above the Earth's Surface.
4999637-3/12/91-Creation of Artificial Ionization Clouds Above the Earth.
4873928-10/17/89-Nuclear-Sized Explosions without Radiation.
4686605-8/11/87-Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth's Atmosphere, Ionosphere, and/or Magnetosphere
[edit on 17-11-2008 by TruthTellist]
The chronic deposition of nitrogen from the atmosphere is a recent stress to New England forests resulting from the combustion of fossil fuels.
I think all on this thread need to start adding a few things up. This link csat.au.af.mil... an Air Force mission statement of using weather as a weapon. It also presents an eerily similar mission statement to that of HARRP. Seems a very credible source. What needs to be questioned on this thread is...Has it begun?
2025 is a study designed to comply with a directive from the chief of staff of the Air Force to examine the concepts, capabilities, and technologies the United States will require to remain the dominant air and space force in the future. Presented on 17 June 1996, this report was produced in the Department of Defense school environment of academic freedom and in the interest of advancing concepts related to national defense. The views expressed in this report are those of the authors and do not reflect the official policy or position of the United States Air Force, Department of Defense, or the United States government.
This report contains fictional representations of future situations/scenarios. Any similarities to real people or events, other than those specifically cited, are unintentional and are for purposes of illustration only.
This publication has been reviewed by security and policy review authorities, is unclassified, and is cleared for public release.