Macedonia and the Greece propaganda

Originally posted by Macedonia

....my slavic friend.
You are slavic and turkish and greek and etc... arent you?

Actually i'm Spartan Hellene(Greek)...if thats ok with u?
and why don't you accept your slavic roots(Yor language is slavic, your ancestors were slavs"Bulgarian", your national heroes are bulgarian(Well except Alexander, he is Greek)? Whats wrong with that? Why you trying to be something you are not? Explain that to me, please.


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[edit on 3/3/2009 by semperfortis]

Originally posted by geforce

Originally posted by Macedonia
reply to post by geforce

 

Will you answer me once for all times why Greece is the purest nation in the world with 98% of greeks and 2% of muslims?

What has Religion to do with Ethnic purity?? Seriously

and the Greek muslims are around 1% of the total population. Your point?

Because there are no other nationalities in Greece than Greeks.

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I want also to say that there was ethnical cleaning for about 600 000 people, assimilation etc.

And the propaganda is your solution

This is my point.

Thanks my friend!

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[edit on 3/3/2009 by semperfortis]

Actually i'm Spartan Hellene(Greek)...if thats ok with u?
and why don't you accept your slavic roots(Yor language is slavic, your ancestors were slavs"Bulgarian", your national heroes are bulgarian(Well except Alexander, he is Greek)? Whats wrong with that? Why you trying to be something you are not? Explain that to me, please.




Your country was 500 years under turkish occupation remember???

ANd you are telling me that for 5 centuries there is not mixing of people?

You want to tell me that Slavians when came to the Balcan in the 6th century, they are only mixed with bulgarians, serbians and others except greeks?

Originally posted by Macedonia
Your country was 500 years under turkish occupation remember???

ANd you are telling me that for 5 centuries there is not mixing of people?

You want to tell me that Slavians when came to the Balcan in the 6th century, they are only mixed with bulgarians, serbians and others except greeks?

a)Christians and muslims back in the days didn't "intermixed" it was prohibited(exception the...rapes, unfortunately)

b) And Skopje was under Turkish occupation 4 520 years(Athens 4 360, Thessaloniki 4 462).

We still speak the Hellenic language, have the same traditions and culture and you your slavobulgarian language, traditions and culture, be proud of your slavic roots and get over it...understood?



[edit on 3-3-2009 by geforce]

reply to post by geforce


You are very hard person to talk

500 years, thousands and thousands of turkish soldiers were on the Balcan and you tell me for some rapes and there was a law that protect the women? and that there was no mixing?

I am not ancient macedonian, i am not slavo-macedonian, i am not bulgarian, i am only macedonian who lives in MACEDONIA in 2009 and yes we keep our macedonian culture, we have elements of other cultures also and you have the same so please dont lie.

About the language, when will you realize that ancient macedonians used greek letters because there were no other letters in that time in that area, Greece was reach with culture, with gods, with literature.

I will explane you other time and show you evidences that you dont want to accept about our language or maube simply you dont know for them.

You write on english here, this doesnt mean that you are from England or USA

What you are i really dont know, but i know that you love only greeks and no other nationality in your country.

If i start to represent things written from other forums, videos on you tube and anything else, there are no enough pages on this forum to collect all so please stop with flooding this thread with links who are not relevant, with videos of homemade production and answer some simple questions and to finish this.


And all the time you avoid the answer about the dividing of Macedonia 1913, about the etnical cleaning, the assimilation etc to solve this thread Macedonia and the Greek Propaganda.

Thank you.

Originally posted by Macedonia

I am not ancient macedonian, i am not slavo-macedonian, i am not bulgarian, i am only macedonian who lives in MACEDONIA in 2009 and yes we keep our macedonian culture, we have elements of other cultures also and you have the same so please dont lie.

About the language, when will you realize that ancient macedonians used greek letters because there were no other letters in that time in that area, Greece was reach with culture, with gods, with literature.

I will explane you other time and show you evidences that you dont want to accept about our language or maube simply you dont know for them.

You write on english here, this doesnt mean that you are from England or USA

What you are i really dont know, but i know that you love only greeks and no other nationality in your country.

If i start to represent things written from other forums, videos on you tube and anything else, there are no enough pages on this forum to collect all so please stop with flooding this thread with links who are not relevant, with videos of homemade production and answer some simple questions and to finish this.


And all the time you avoid the answer about the dividing of Macedonia 1913, about the etnical cleaning, the assimilation etc to solve this thread Macedonia and the Greek Propaganda.

Thank you.

Don't know who teached you history but got to tell u, it's not his area.


A) Macedonians, Spartans and the other Greek doric tribes spoke and wrote Greek(Doric dialect).
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

Can you read ancient Greek and understand? Bet not...well i can.

B) There never was such a thing as "Ethnic" Macedonians, that project was created back in the 40-50s by Tito and the commies...back in the days of Ottoman empire you were Bulgarians*. Until then the name of that Yugoslavian part was VARDARSKA zeus.nethelp.gr... and the reason that was changed was to lay claims on Greek soil /53ytxjand have access on the Aegean seaen.wikipedia.org......of course that never happened cause of the cold war and Greece being a US alie.

*Docs. from those days.
www.macedoniaontheweb.com...
www.macedoniaontheweb.com...
www.macedoniaontheweb.com...
www.macedoniaontheweb.com...
www.macedoniaontheweb.com...

C)Bulgaria(your neighbor and fatherland) have moved on and abandoned the WMRO project long time ago, communism and the Cold War are dead, time for you and your goverment to do the same thing and stop provoking greece and the others around you.

First Bulgarian, then Jugoslavian 4 50years or something and now "Macedonski", whats next, ethnic "Ninjas"??








[edit on 4-3-2009 by geforce]

reply to post by geforce


This is not answer to my question.

Please tell me from which country you have tooken a part?

Please tell me if there was etnical cleaning and assimilation the last 100 years.

I hope it is not hard to answer me.

Thank you!

Originally posted by Macedonia
reply to post by geforce

 

This is not answer to my question.

Please tell me from which country you have tooken a part?

None.

Please tell me if there was etnical cleaning and assimilation the last 100 years.

Nope...not by Greece. Btw, when are we going to get back those 28.000 kidnapped Greek children that your commie ancestors behind the Iron Curtain took and never returned???90. Letter to the Speaker on the Plight of Greek Children Abducted by Communist Guerrilla Forces

April 19, 1950

[Released April 19, 1950. Dated April 18, 1950]

My dear Mr. Speaker:

I fully share the concern of the House of Representatives for the thousands of children removed from Greece to eastern Europe by the communist guerrilla forces, and I welcome the adoption of House Resolution 514 of March 22, 1950, calling for the speedy return of these children to their homes and homeland.

The rights of children and parents to share the protection, comradeship and beneficent influence of a family home are fundamental and have been implicitly recognized, in the case of the Greek children, in two unanimous resolutions of the United Nations General Assembly. It is morally inadmissible that political considerations or technical difficulties should be allowed to stand in the way of the reunion of these children with their parents.

The Executive Branch of the Government has been persistent in its endeavors to secure effective compliance with the United Nations resolutions in this case. These efforts will not be relaxed until the Greek children are back in their homes.
Very sincerely yours,
HARRY S. TRUMAN

I hope it is not hard to answer me.

Thank you!

And you have the nerv to talk about "etnical cleaning and assimilation"

reply to post by geforce


1. Please check and get sure is it truth or lie that i am talking or you are the biggest lier in this forum

en.wikipedia.org...(1913)
www.mtholyoke.edu...
www.britannica.com...

2. About the kids, are you sure that you are talking about greeks or you are talking about the macedonian kids refugees during the ethnical cleaning in Greece?

www.osservatoriobalcani.org...
VIDEO Exodus 1948 www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...
(there are many videos)


Do you see dear friends how this greek person make propaganda all the time???
He lies all the time, post not logic and not truth stories. He doesnt know the history 50 years ago.

I am not sure if he is lieing himself or the other readers on ATS

MACEDONIA: The video that SHOCKED Greece
www.youtube.com...

DNA prooves by Igenea:

Macedonia:
30%macedonian
10% illyrian
15% hellenen
5%phoenician
20% germanic
5% hunnen
15% slavs

Greece:
10% Germanic
10%illyrians
20% slavs
20% phoenician
5% macedonian (in north more than 18%)
35% Hellenen

Bulgaria:
49%Thraker
11%macedonian
15%slavs
15%hellenen
5% pheonician

DNA prooves by NCBI. SOURCE: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... NCBI Website: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
.........

Thank you and goodbye!

Originally posted by geforce

Originally posted by Macedonia
reply to post by geforce

 

This is not answer to my question.

Please tell me from which country you have tooken a part?

None.

None?

I wonder who taught u history? BTW since u seem so informed about your roots, tell me what language was in use at the greek parliament in the beginning (I'm talking 1800 and so forth) ? Is just out of curiosity coz I've made it clear in this thread before that I do not wish to participate due to the futility of the subject and to the hate that generates.

Thnx in advance whatever your response will be.

[edit on 4-3-2009 by Telos]

A)I know what the Treaty of Bucharest is and what the Greek War of Independence, Greeks took back most of their lands(not all of it)static.howstuffworks.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

B)You are using articles writen by FYROMian citizens as "independed sources"...the UN and H.Truman have other opinions.

C)DNA tests again that been posted in here 100 times won't prove anything specially when they claim that they have DNA authentic samples of ancient tribes like the Illyrians and the Phoenicians.

reply to post by geforce


Did you draw the map?

Macedonia it is not worth it some of the posters will not answer your questions.
Everything you say they are going to say that is propaganda. It is like they dont even read the posts.
And will create new users to support their claims.

Секојпат ке бидат исти.

reply to post by Macedonia


Is this good enough 4 u?
Ancient Greek cities

Greece: 10 mil
Macedonia: 2 mil

Turkey: 50 mil - one of the best armies in Europe.

Behind Turkey - sea of islamic countries, pushing towards Europe.

Macedonia, Bulgaria and Greece should stick together, to defend themselves (and Europe) from islam.

The missunderstandings between them have been planted by bankers, who are trying to replace Christians with Muslims in Europe - lower maintenance cost for them.

Originally posted by geforce
reply to post by Macedonia

 

Is this good enough 4 u?
Ancient Greek cities

Better!

Thanks!

Originally posted by defiler
Секојпат ке бидат исти.

Ok, is this in Slavic Yes or No?

reply to post by geforce

reply to post by geforce


No, it is on Macedonian and means "They will be the same forever"

The letters in your external image are the Bulgarian alphabet and we use Cyril letters, and this is not an evidence that we are Bulgarians, or Serbs or Russians.

By the way you Greeks say that Cyril and Metodi are greeks.

At ATS you write with latin letters, and this is not evidence that you are english or etc...

Got it?

This whole thread has turned into a mudslinging, namecalling mess.

Closing it for 48 hours.