PARA: What You Should Know About Lower Astrals

Originally posted by antar

It is ok to be part of the Light workers and it is indeed ok to say it proudly.

If you have ever felt and I mean truly felt loving compassion for another and sent your healing light without ever needing anything in return, you are a light bringer.

If you shared your healing prayer with absolute empathy without desiring anything in return you are a Light worker.

If you have ever sent out protective and healing light to ones you did not know, with no expectation of any future rewards for your good intent, then you are a Light Warrior.

This is an excellent description of the various levels of light workers. People talk of light workers and warriors but Ive never seen it explained so well as this.

I think there is a difference between having a nightmare from seeing a horror movie to actually seeing and feeling the astral energy from these beings, the two are totally different.

Meadowfairy ,I once felt such a dark force whilst awake, therefor it was not a dream or nightmare. I saw and felt its dark blackness all around me, it actually tryed to pull me into its energy field by forcing me towards it. It was like an opening between me and it had occurred right in front of me as I didnt see or feel it in the rest of the room. That entity was one of the more powerful ones Ive encountered. I had to sumon all my life force to reject it. Is this how these things maybe try to take over our spirit I wonder? Not everything Ive seen has been this dark, please dont think everything that comes through is dark and evil, its not.

That sounds similar to the vampire images i have had just when i close my eyes to go to sleep. They look like normal woman who would be sleeping and look pretty then scare me by opening their eyes and changing their faces into old hag vampires.

Originally posted by Mr Green

Originally posted by antar

It is ok to be part of the Light workers and it is indeed ok to say it proudly.

If you have ever felt and I mean truly felt loving compassion for another and sent your healing light without ever needing anything in return, you are a light bringer.

If you shared your healing prayer with absolute empathy without desiring anything in return you are a Light worker.

If you have ever sent out protective and healing light to ones you did not know, with no expectation of any future rewards for your good intent, then you are a Light Warrior.

This is an excellent description of the various levels of light workers. People talk of light workers and warriors but Ive never seen it explained so well as this.

I think there is a difference between having a nightmare from seeing a horror movie to actually seeing and feeling the astral energy from these beings, the two are totally different.

Meadowfairy ,I once felt such a dark force whilst awake, therefor it was not a dream or nightmare. I saw and felt its dark blackness all around me, it actually tryed to pull me into its energy field by forcing me towards it. It was like an opening between me and it had occurred right in front of me as I didnt see or feel it in the rest of the room. That entity was one of the more powerful ones Ive encountered. I had to sumon all my life force to reject it. Is this how these things maybe try to take over our spirit I wonder? Not everything Ive seen has been this dark, please dont think everything that comes through is dark and evil, its not.

Mister Green i have experienced the astral. I have had obe's and you cna manipulate the astral at will. You can go back into your body by saying i want to go back into my body as you have the right to do so and when you master the astral you can fight the creatures off and away. OUr thoughts can create a realm/dimension in itself. I believe the OP could have changed the situation with her mind to allowing higher beings like for eg. Archangel Micheal to defeat them. You can actually make higher beings come and taken them away just by believing in them.
They can manifest themselves in the real world and i have experienced that too. I have posted my stories on here about those events.

What i'm trying to get at and the conclusions i have come across since those experiences is that our minds are so powerful in itself it will manifest negativity. I trully believe alot of ti has to do with conditioning of negative stories and movies associated with negativity and the dark and if you have ever been religious. It all can manifest itself when we are in fear. We see what we do not want to see and our minds will help project that.

I used to suffer anxiety attacks and made sure i would not watch anything with violence because it would manifest itself. We do not realise what we subconciously do and arent aware we are doing and manifesting it. We are all one being with similar experiences.

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I am still waiting an answer to the scientifically discovered 11 types of reality or whatever it was. I also like how questions which help support this story are answered but everything else gets the 'well I could answer but not in terms that you would understand'. Talk about denial.

I am also amazed at the piece of fiction that this thread is built around. The OP may have had some strange experiences but just the matter it was written smacks of self indulgence.

Believe what is in your heart, not your head and all of you will benefit. All I see here is self empowering DIY spiritualism which is the bane of mankind.

You want my 2c. This is the result of a lot of demonic activity. It is obviously confusing to the OP, a cause of great stress and is filled with evil imagery and tales of uncontrollable lust and hopelessness. Sure none of you will agree with me - this is not a personal attack but just a statement. If admins delete this fair enough, but if anyone does read this - take a step back, simplify things and come to your own realisation of what has been said here.

It always to be skeptical at first, detach yourself of emotion and make up your own mind.

Originally posted by cbass
reply to post by antar

 

I think you need a couple days off.
Is there any sort of benefits package for being a light fixture?
Do you gals get any vacation pay?
Do you have to make a few phone calls to get someone else to gaurd the gate for you whilst away??

If you can get the most high one who resides on the uppermost astral realm to give you a few days off I think it would do you some good.

Get some rest, there will plenty of Dark and evil forces waiting for you when you get back, I'm sure.
We'll hold down the fort while you're away.
You will of course need to trust me with the key....you know....for the....gate.

congratulations. you managed to fly under the radar of good taste. Perhaps you have a light deflecting coating which allows you to remain in stealth mode? In any event, you can hardly claim you aren't attacking, because you ARE. Your ridicule and so-called "humor" are very UN-funny. except, probably to you. Any further Mea Culpa on your part is, simply a LIE.

This isn't the kind of situation the average "gate keeper" could sail into and sort out. These people were very connected and someone with a stiffer attitude, who saw anything, would not have survived, I suspect. Instead, knowing that she was easy for them to discredit, being very vulnerable, she was treated as an amusing pet. This kind of thing would have taken a number of spiritual workers at a distance, and who know what the outcome would be. I'm not really familiar with gate keeper type activities.

I do know, due to my own experience though I had never imagined St. Michael was real, that he, and other angels do step in swiftly in situations concerning evil entitities, but they don't always save lives. They step in spiritually to protect a soul. I think humility is the key to dealing with these things as well. We need to keep like children and not focus on our powers enormously, but do our bit.

So her situation was far too vulnerable for action, plus this would be, instead of a failure as a gate keeper experience, a learning experience, a real eye opener I might add! Theres no going back, you make your decision which side you're on, and you know there must be something you can learn to do to help the good. But its best not to dwell on it, and start thinking of positive works that can help.

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Could you have changed Auschwitz by your intent? Or all of the other tragedies through out history? If so let me know how and I will become your disciple.

Originally posted by mystiq
This isn't the kind of situation the average "gate keeper" could sail into and sort out. These people were very connected and someone with a stiffer attitude, who saw anything, would not have survived, I suspect.

It was a high concentration and in the light 'they' were NOT suppose to interfere with me. Not allowed. I have had strong connections in the flesh with an Angel, very rare I know, yet just the same true.

They found my weakness yes it was my unconditional love. Yet at one point while making love I realized and cried like a baby that the more love he pulled out of me, became funneled through him and into the downward spiral to be used somehow as just energy, to be manipulated as they chose. At some point I had to take responsibility for even that, without judgement. Even knowing that what I had interpreted as his love, was in truth just a reflection of my own.

I said that much has been left out, has to be on a personal level.

Saint Michael is VERY very real. I hesitate to call on him, only when I must.

God is in all of us, and when we allow the divine energy to use us, the demands are not always easy. As I have said before existence can only live through our eyes, taste touch and feel through us in this physical world.

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Sounds like one I encountered in Germany... Your post makes me wonder if they come to children (suffer the little children?) at somewhere between 3-5 and test them? Each of us has a different starting place of when the veil is lifted. From there our spiritual lives are defined. Very deep.

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by meadowfairy

 

Could you have changed Auschwitz by your intent? Or all of the other tragedies through out history? If so let me know how and I will become your disciple.

That's not fair. Especially considering with the appropriately applied intent (like stopping Hilter sooner) could have done it which would have take more then just meadowfairy anyways.

Second I agree with her that we have more control over the astrals & are more powerful then the vast majority of people realize. But interesting how unconditional love can be exploited as a weakness huh? Either way, don't beat yourself up. If everything is planned & part of a great synchronicity then you did exactly what you needed to do at the time. Just like now...

Originally posted by Shakesbeer

Originally posted by antar
reply to post by meadowfairy

 

Could you have changed Auschwitz by your intent? Or all of the other tragedies through out history? If so let me know how and I will become your disciple.

That's not fair. Especially considering with the appropriately applied intent (like stopping Hilter sooner) could have done it which would have take more then just meadowfairy anyways.

Second I agree with her that we have more control over the astrals & are more powerful then the vast majority of people realize. But interesting how unconditional love can be exploited as a weakness huh? Either way, don't beat yourself up. If everything is planned & part of a great synchronicity then you did exactly what you needed to do at the time. Just like now...

Could be but that timeline has passed. Can we stop the terror happening NOW? It is not just in the astrals. It has also punched a hole through the fabric of our dimensions long long ago.

I for one have some memories of peaceful times in our planets vast history. What was the Difference between then and now or in the past 7 thousand years? People talk about their Chakra systems, the earth also has hers. We are an organic unity an organic whole, yet people forget, they think that we are separate. This perverts the entire opportunity to reach to higher heights, from the rocks and trees to the human being.

I do not at all disagree at all with your above btw. We all have so much to add. No One is superior and no one is inferior, we are all stars in the night sky, diamonds shimmering bright.

I appreciate your post.

reply to post by antar


I'm actually in the earth's root chakra territory at 33 degrees.

I actually think there is a portal that wobbles through my house from time to time as I've had quiet a few lucid experiences that would indicate this to be the case. It happens at certain times of the year at the end of a hall that runs perfect East to West, North & South.

reply to post by Shakesbeer


I did U2u, you. You are so giving and caring about others here on the board, I appreciate your presence.

Antar,

I tried to send a u2u but apparently I don't have enough of those lovely 'points.'

Anyway...

Your story, though seemingly fantastic, has struck chords of synchronicity with me. The gate...then other posts about the veil and the game...

I believe I may live near one of these gates. I've been told as much but I don't properly know. I've been learning to move energy...but, once again, I don't really know much about it nor really what I'm doing.

But the hunched-over big black thing...myself and a few others, we call them 'reavers.' We don't know the actual name or title of them...but they're hell to kill, I know that much.

The frightening thing is that we've begun seeing demons and the like come physical more and more lately.


Please contact me through the following email address if you will:
[email protected]

I'm hoping we can share knowledge.

reply to post by antar


Thank you very much. Just trying to help make sense out of this crazy *"backwards-land" as I lovingly refer to this reality.

*backwards land

A whimsical & wacky place where everyone says one thing and does another. But what they do is misconstrued as meaning what one's paid labor is thinking that alone defines a person by some mythical standard. That myth deriving from what the resident beings would call "popular culture" which is generally a result of them all staring into different kinds of square electronic transmitters for lengths at a time. One of the capitals of backwards land is known by an abbreviation that I think stands for "Double Standard City" or "D.C.". However the actions & philosophies that comprise Backwards Land encompass the entire planet in different forms..eeyup, Backwards Land, it's one of my favorite places in the world!

reply to post by onenotsaved


I have received dozens of u2us stating the same. You are not alone, just popping in to read a bit on the forum and would love to talk more with you at some point.

reply to post by antar


Antar, if your story really is true then you should know these are evil spirits of darkness aka demons even the same beings that possess bodies and pretend to be aliens fooling the world. They have been here since the begining of creation. Satan is controlling all these evil spirits and demons, Satan is a real being but he would love to have everyone believe he isn't. They do have an empire that is why just about all world leaders are hooked up in this worship in one way or another because these evil spirits and Satan control all the kingdoms of the world. God protects those who live by the words of truth and light. Jesus Christ is the truth and the light. Please look into it, I am very concerned for you.

I suggest you review these threads.

Aliens are Not what you think.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Scientology, Satansim and other groups.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

p.s. If anyone feels the need to debate anything I wrote because of disbelief at least please review these links first then we can talk about it.

God is Love and Light.
God Bless!



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Originally posted by antar
reply to post by meadowfairy

 

Could you have changed Auschwitz by your intent? Or all of the other tragedies through out history? If so let me know how and I will become your disciple.

The difference is Auschwitz and any other similar tragedies that ever was encountered in history was real and was done by humans, whether entities helped them we would not trully know.

I could have easily said because you were working long periods in a really hot sun you could have been delusional. But i didn't brush off what you were saying so easily because the astral is there.
What you could have seen may infact have been real(veil lifting so to speak) but as i see it you were not harmed in any particular way in reality. So i still believe the summons could have helped. Same with those who take ghosts and demons from out of peoples homes.
When i was being attacked and paralysed by a demon entity i did call upon the higher beings and they helped straight away.

We can not just brush off the power of the human mind. We can still even reach telepathy potential.

Whether you know it or not our minds allow things to happen even though we do not want it to happen. Our minds are really our souls(contains all memories), not the brain. To put it easier everything we do in our daily lives and anything we come across is downloaded into our minds which can be accessed with each successive reincarnation. It is not that we are evil or bad that we see such things. You just need to change your thoughts and surroundings to more positive situations so that you are not stuck in those situations. The problem is overcoming ego and fear which inturn lets anything supernatural feed of our weakness and our nightmares. You are a light worker you should know this and shine your light you are more powerful sweety (this is why those entities are attracted to you. dont let them torment for their purposes you know what you are here for). We project things tougher then us when infact we are powerful ourselves and can do harm to ourselves. It is us who fool ourselves of not knowing our potential.





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Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by Filter

 

ERRONEOUS! The questions are valid! She knows this and so does anyone else with a levelheaded mentality!

Don't you DARE implicate a respected member with allegations that he/she is a demon OR WHATEVER you are implicating.

Give your head a shake you asmole, If you read my posts from before you would realize.

You idiot

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