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PARA: What You Should Know About Lower Astrals

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posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 01:38 PM
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My apologies to you if I upset you. I don't think I did because I was just being punny (LOL).

I too live in a beautiful world. It's that way because I make it that way. I see beauty everywhere I go.

With all my heart I hope you never do see the dark side that many of us have seen.

I consider you a well respected member of the ATS family. I enjoy your posts on many threads. I'm usually in agreement with you.

You should know that getting into a discussion with a group of women that you are on shallow ground. We tend to stick together.

By the way, my love and light destroyed the evil you sent.

Sending more love and light.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by mystiq
I sent her a u2u concerning a significant experience and my weird battle,made difficult by my loving stance, a few years ago. I'm not going to share it here, because I don't feel comfortable doing so, and because this is her story, so I don't want to hijack it. But the similarities were in the fact that you can indeed feel love for something or someone that presents themselves to you as a very attractive human.


I can totally agree, even though we may suspect something is not human it is entirely possible to love it with an open heart. The presence and energy is enough of some of these entities to enable us to actually form relationships with them. Im not saying its right or wrong, maybe in some circumstances its OK, I dont know but I would like to offer support and say that yes it is entirely possible to love something/someone you suspect is not human or is human but from another dimension. Its like love is love no matter what dimension its felt on, however in antars case her man was not happy with this feeling, as if this love was almost painful to him to feel.

Yes such things seem so far fetched to some, but this thread is pushing back the boundaries of what can as is happenning. Im so glad others have had the courage to speak of it.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 02:18 PM
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I want to thank cbass for sending over the dark.




There are many things a light worker can do with this kind of dark.




It was delicious cbass and I wish I could send you a piece.




LOVE & LIGHT.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 02:29 PM
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It's completely understandable why a fair amount of people might immediately say that. But seriously there's no more evidence proving that she's out of it, as there is that everything she's been saying is true, at least at this point. I guess my comment to your concern would be that; are you qualified or have the practical knowledge to know when someone is displaying the characteristics of the condition you're diagnosing the OP with? Do you know for a fact this person is lying, or fabricating the story? If so, please present any evidence you have to the rest of the group as it would be pertinent to the thread.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 02:38 PM
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The part of this telling between me and the Dark Angel, was a very profound part of this whole situation for me personally.

There is nothing that I could possibly say in my defence which has not been made loud and clear by the heavens Angels here on the board in this thread in particular.

I KNOW that some of you are among the most precious light carriers and defenders of what is right, good and full of light, it is an honor to have you walk beside me during the telling.

As some of you know the anticlimactic end was in fact because of the pressure placed on me and others and the fact that if I were to have continued it would have been far too graphic and beyond frightening for those who were not ready to read this and then let it go, use it but not carry it: that I have already done.

It would be prudent to continue making discoveries and talking openly about the steps needed to :

Sense, feel, visualize, and identify where the gates exist both in physical planes and ethereal as both are operating full steam ahead as we move closer to 2012 and beyond.

Make a defensive plan to counter the negative forces for ourselves first and for our beloveds and finally the world at large.

To discover who or what your particular specialty is whether it is focusing on People, specifically children, elderly, infirm, teens or other, animals, plants, oceans, etc.

Take it to the highest level and allow the higher light energy to bring your work into real life focus whether it is Jesus, Buddha, Starlight energies, what ever for your personal choice.

Create a spiritual think tank of techniques to share and utilize for clearing and creating reservoirs of this light energy for your work.

And many more ideas are emerging and welcome. I think we have found a strong base from which to operate, if one of you would like to start a new thread we can all work together through that thread to bounce ideas and create an actual plan.

I think I know who's in, and yet if you would feel more comfortable doing this in private, let me know, but our pledge should be NO MORE SHADOWS!!! Bring on the LIGHT!!!

I still need to clean, took my little one to the DR. this am, kind under the weather, but on the mend... AaChoo!

I will check back later, I have to thank you all so very much, you are the brightest group of Light Bringers I have had the priveledge to meet in a very long time.

Love



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 02:40 PM
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OMG!!! That looks SOOO good! I went for Chinese today so Im done with real food, but Dessert for dinner???? Yummmmmy!



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 03:05 PM
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Hello Anatar and Peace to you,

I have a few questions?

1. When you say "lowers", what do you mean exactly? Do you mean disembodied souls or spirits? Are these Ghosts of past entities or are they something different?

2. These portals, do they lie in areas were the mantle of the earth is thin? You had talked about the New Mexico Arizona area, is the crater in Arizona one of these places or something similar.

3. Are these lowers affected by magnetism and does the poles of the earth have anything to do with them "rising" to your experience?

4. Have you seen "what dreams may come" with Robin Williams and Cuba Gooding Jr? There is a scene in that movie when Robin Williams character is going through one of the lower levels of dispare with writhing bodies that he is walking over....do the lowers resemble this, the ones coming up...Jacob...the heal catcher...Yacob to the Mayan.

Edit for spelling

[edit on 11-11-2008 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
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I want to thank cbass for sending over the dark.




There are many things a light worker can do with this kind of dark.




It was delicious cbass and I wish I could send you a piece.




LOVE & LIGHT.



Alright that was funny.
I will be forced to star that one.
Good for you. Are you happy now?
Your attempts at winning me over to your side are futile but clever nontheless.

Always yours in hatred and darkness.
cbass.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by cbass

Your attempts at winning me over to your side are futile but clever nontheless.

Always yours in hatred and darkness.
cbass.


I think if this is wrote as it is meant to sound and not in jest, it is one of the most hateful and dark posts I have ever read on ATS. Why must people feel they need to write such words of hate, anger and darkness ? I actually feel these words cut deep within my heart and they are not even aimed at me, they are against so much many are trying to end. No matter how good you think this is making you feel cbass it is only serving to hurt your inner light. Its ebbing away at it, I guarantee you'll go to bed with a heavy heart even though you may not realize it. Darkness works in many ways and by getting you to post the above is one of the ways it gets fellow humans of this plane to work against one another. This is its aim to divide and destroy. Rise above it, you'll feel so much better.

I hope for your sake this post is meant in jest.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
reply to post by antar
 


Hello Anatar and Peace to you,

I have a few questions?

1. When you say "lowers", what do you mean exactly? Do you mean disembodied souls or spirits? Are these Ghosts of past entities or are they something different?

Something different from ghosts for certain. Not spirits in the ghostly sense either. There are just as present as we are now. I have no real explaination for exactly what they are as they seem to evolve from a different dimension than we exisit in.

2. These portals, do they lie in areas were the mantle of the earth is thin? You had talked about the New Mexico Arizona area, is the crater in Arizona one of these places or something similar.

Not at the crater area as far as I know. Good question on the thinning crusts though. It is most certain that they use certain areas but the earth may not have much to do with it, I am not certain but these portals are interdimensional gates which can be anchored anywhere along earths many lelines.

3. Are these lowers affected by magnetism and does the poles of the earth have anything to do with them "rising" to your experience?

They do seem to be in areas which are more highly concentrated in geomagnetic and electromagnetic energy, yet more on the pheriphials not in the actual concentrated areas themselves like you find at vortexes. They are rising in greater numbers due to the influence of the shifting poles, the gates will become unstable when the shifts happen. Many can be found near and around certain types of rocks which how I stumbled upon the ones I have talked about.

4. Have you seen "what dreams may come" with Robin Williams and Cuba Gooding Jr? There is a scene in that movie when Robin Williams character is going through one of the lower levels of dispare with writhing bodies that he is walking over....do the lowers resemble this, the ones coming up...Jacob...the heal catcher...Yacob to the Mayan.

I knew I should have seen that movie! The weirdest part about the malformed entities is that they felt souless, very offensive. More shocking to the heart energy than to the sight senses.

[edit on 11-11-2008 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 03:44 PM
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Green, I had not consciously looked at your avatra,it sits off my field of vision on this comp screen, anyway after the negative post from he who must not be mentioned... I placed my hands in prayer and visualized all the beautiful light workers heere and myself sending out loves protective light o you, I saw a shimmering light blue almost violet diamond VERY strong. I then Scrolled over to look at your avie and was surprised to see the star, it was as if you are protected and send out the energy from the center of your avatar even before our loving light could come to your side, wow! very cool. HA! your busted! You are a light worker! beautiful...



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:03 PM
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Thank you Antar, it is of the heart chakra. A chakra so strong with me it has brought me much torment but also much bliss. It is a place of balance and divine harmony. It is the connection between the lower and the higher. It is where we are re born into the light.

I have struggeled so with what it has brought me. The moment I opened my heart chakra my world changed. I am glad it has given you strength. It is an old avatar of mine, I put it back up yesterday as a MOD said my other one (blue digital heaven) was too large. How fitting it seems now that I replaced it with my heart chakra. I too love the poweful healing and loving energies this avatar sends out, I only need to gaze at it and I feel its inner light.

Thank you for your kind words..not sure about busted LOL Im just me, but thank you.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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You people seriously need to LIGHTEN up.(pun intended)
Of course it was in jest.
Do they allow humor on the astral realms?
If humaor is not allowed in the "Upper" crowd then count me out.
I suppose I am destin to forever be a "lower".

Always yours in hatred and darkness.
cbass.

p.s.
I am projecting a beam of dark energy at all of you which is being amplified A MILLION times by my D.E.A.
Dark Energy Aplifier.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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Your avatar has been featuring in the latest doco I am watching called Nassim Haramein at the Rogue Valley Metaphysical Library. 2003
watch here: video.google.com...

On a side note, I dont really understand how this cbass has hijacked this extremly interesting thread for his own ego's sake. Really annoying actually. Especially how most here have contributed to feeding this monster. I put cbass on perm ignore, I suggest you all do the same, for this is an obvious leech like negative entity in real time.

Antar is there any way you can blog this so we can all read it without the interuptions? This has been the best thread since mr greens and dan tannas for this type of thing. Thanks for sharing it!



wZn



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
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Antar is there any way you can blog this so we can all read it without the interuptions?

wZn


You can go to Antar's first post, click the "THREAD" button at the bottom, and then you will get up only her posts in the thread. This is a very useful function in very long threads.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 04:41 PM
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I thought it was the Jewish Star of David??? Ah I have seen so many beautiful images of the heart chakra it just resonated from that region unbeknown st to me...

It is ok to be part of the Light workers and it is indeed ok to say it proudly.

If you have ever felt and I mean truly felt loving compassion for another and sent your healing light without ever needing anything in return, you are a light bringer.

If you shared your healing prayer with absolute empathy without desiring anything in return you are a Light worker.

If you have ever sent out protective and healing light to ones you did not know, with no expectation of any future rewards for your good intent, then you are a Light Warrior.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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Cool thanks for the answers.

I have some theories on this from personal experience and study and a little bit of sleep paralasis.

This might take a minute, but see if this hits home for you.

Here we go.

Our protection, as living beings is the flesh, that is to say the life is transported in the flesh. We live eternally (perpetually...time to time) by the blood.

The blood is mostly comprised of Iron and water making you somewhat of a compass, thus sensitive. My personal thoughts are that Iron has magnetic properties and is actually what holds our soul (the foundation of your personality..."the two becoming one flesh before you and those before them...to the beginining...you are the mansion prepared for your ancestors), but only as long as it (the blood) goes forward generation to generation.

I believe this is why Jesus said the road is narrow...literally the hips of a woman "narrow" as that is life and true as God is true who dwells in the light, so that people may see his actions manifest...."I am the god of the living, not the dead"...the "LIVING GOD"....Jesus said, "is it not said you are all gods".

In Pop Culture
If you've seen a horror movie called "pulse" about this very subject, they reference how masking off a room in the red band of light (red tape and such), keeps the evil spirits away...they were talking about blood i believe, same with dracula and zombies.

Zombies want to eat brains...why? They want brains, because the brain is what puts things in order or "Cosmos=to put in order". The brain is only active in the living which the blood has made. Die without "the son of man=new generation..."and a child shall lead them" and you loose the inheretence....Or Stargate...you ever notice how the portal is water? This represents birth I believe....and people are the stargate, usually with three characters given to their destination....your name.

Anyway, back to the story. Vortex's...this goes back to the beginning and yes the Pyramids. No one knows what the pyramids are for...but your vortex is a clue. I personally believe the pyramids..."the rocks crying out"...are the ARC(covenant, Noah's,tower of babel). A pyramid, the word even unknown. I figured out what it means...listening to the doors. "And our love become a funneral pyre..." and this is so easy you'll smack yourself.

Pyre...obviously fire from our old english, Mid (like Midion)...Mountain. Pyramid is Fire Mountain. This is why the bible talks so much about "going to the mountain" where bushes burn without fire consuming them...cause it's hot as a mug...ever seen footage of people walk around Kilowaha...there shoes burst into flames.

This is also why I asked about the magnatism. Just as the magnetic record is frozen in lava after cooling, so are the magnetic impressions we leave so that at the pole change, you are frozen in your actions. I believe that because the world ending eruption of a massive volcano is what is bringing these "dead" up, because of the pole change and persuent eruption. I also believe this is why you sense these, because of the magnetic properties of your blood, which must be fruitful and multiply. This is what "Crossing the Jordan" represents as "Jordan" means "descender"...."who can ascend, but he who has first descended?"...You must descend and bear the cross of a child or die and bear the Vortex...your name scattered to the wind...to go to Gehenna...which means Genesis or simply Generations. No blood, Know the land of the lost. 2 by 2 they entered...and the two became one flesh 23 from you and 23 from me...but it took 46 years to build this temple and you will raise it in 3 days?

To God...(Look in the mirror...he's the person you see..well you are part of him I should say....a day is as a 1000 years, and a thousand years as a day. To a human a day, to our spirit 1000 years. Spirit in the earth 1000 years to humans day. The third day is upon us. The night is coming(from Baal Cain=Volcano) in which NO MAN CAN work...(due to volcanic eruption..)

Your blood is one solid line and holds the Akashic. There is nothing under the sphinx or anywhere around there, it's in you and it is a "race" to remember...as another poster put it...a game....my girlfriend even remembers starting it.


"7 times, Generations, did the lord pass over Nebo(hebrew)Ka Ned zer, and on the 7th time His mind was restored to him and he praised the god of heaven(descended) and remembered it is God who sets up and brings down.
After 7 generations, memory stored in the blood compounds enough for people to begin remembering...thus awaking by so many, but also the Volcano.



His name is Akkadian, Nabû-kudurri-uṣur, is usually (but mistakenly) interpreted as "O Nabu, defend my kudurru" -- Nabu being the Babylonian deity of wisdom who is the son of the god Marduk. A kudurru is an inscribed stone deed of property, a clay copy of which served as a boundary marker. In an inscription, he styles himself "Nabu's favourite". Contained in a ruler's title, kudurru approximates to "firstborn son" or "oldest son". Due to this, Nabû-khi durri-uṣur actually means "Oh God Nabu, preserve/defend my firstborn son


Who is Gods firstborn son, who Nabu or Nibiru or Hibiru is supposed to defend? It is Jesus who's name is Esau and Cain, who serves the younger. "The son of man did not come to be served, but to serve"..."and the older shall serve the younger"...he was the first to see death....and the last to see death...he had a symbol placed over him to that anyone finding him and killing him, he would be avenged 7 fold generations or gain 7 lives (virgins...no memory), then again as Lamech 7 x 70 generations. But he was found out and killed, so the avenging waits and could blow any momment.

Remember, Jesus went to the gates of Hell and released them and they are coming to the surface...

"First the dead in christ shall rise, then we which are alive and remain, shall be caught up into the air....."Vaporized".

"His eyes were like a blaze of fire, and his feet as burnished bronze, hot from the oven."

In the kingdom of God there is no need for sun or moon. For the lord is the light..."liquid hot magma"


Peace



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by cbass
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You people seriously need to LIGHTEN up.(pun intended)
Of course it was in jest.
Do they allow humor on the astral realms?
If humaor is not allowed in the "Upper" crowd then count me out.
I suppose I am destin to forever be a "lower".

Always yours in hatred and darkness.
cbass.

p.s.
I am projecting a beam of dark energy at all of you which is being amplified A MILLION times by my D.E.A.
Dark Energy Aplifier.


Yes well thats good, Im glad it was a joke. I dont sense any great darkness in you, all I sense is that you have been carried along in a way you maybe didnt intend for this thread to go for you. It can so easily happen if we dont stand back and think before we post. Your not the evil enemy at all, and yes humour is most definetly allowed in any realm. I did read over some of your pre posts to the one I quoted and I could see the joke within them. I will await your dark energy beam of a million and prepare to zap it then!!

No harm done, MG.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
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Your avatar has been featuring in the latest doco I am watching called Nassim Haramein at the Rogue Valley Metaphysical Library. 2003
watch here: video.google.com...



Antar is there any way you can blog this so we can all read it without the interuptions? This has been the best thread since mr greens and dan tannas for this type of thing. Thanks for sharing it!



wZn


Yes Ive been made aware of his work by another member . Its a crazy world when we join ATS is search of aliens we have seen only to be led down a path of meditation, light and the wonderful world of the heart chakra!

Which of my threads are you refering to if you are referring to me at all? I agree this thread has pushed back many boundaries for me, its like more and more is able to be discussed.



posted on Nov, 11 2008 @ 05:41 PM
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The star of David is made from the symbol known as the Merkaba which two tetrahedrons put together. It (tetrahedron) is the basic geometric building block of life & many other things in this universe. The Jewish just kind of use it since the merkaba goes way back and is part of sacred geometry and kabbalah



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