Why do women break up with nice guys?

I'm sorry riley, but you seem to either be a shill or simply someone who has been really brainwashed to brand all good guys the same way. You seem to turn EVERYTHING I SAY AROUND! and put things into my head and mouth.

I'm tired of it.

There's no excuse.

I'm not the way you make me out to be. You and orangetom, or any of your supporters.

You all don't know me. Stop misconstruing what I say.

Strawman? I dont know what it really means or how to use it but geez.. I dont deserve any of this.

I see now people are just going to see that with this argument I'm just being more of a "so called nice guy" being selfish, etc. bla bla blah.

Just stop. All these trivial words, and definitions and arguments. None of you know me!

I've had enough of the labelling, enough of the profiling, categorizing, patronizing. I've been targetted!

The more this conversation continues, the more I'm going to be misconstrued, the more these ideas will begin to permeate the rest of society, the more Good people will suffer because nobody knows what's what anymore.

Alright just stop.

maybe I made a mistake posting here in the first place. But you know, it's always the case that when a man talks about women he's going to be bashed, if a woman does the same she will without a doubt always be supported.

All these stars giving credit to the wrong people are just being done to either make them look more right than others, either being done by shills or really ignorant persons.

reply to post by The Quiet Storm


Please calm down, QS. That's the problem with having a victim mentality. Suddenly everybody is out to get you and you end up misconstruing genuine advice offered to you.

reply to post by The Quiet Storm

I dont understand this.. you're defending her?

Er... to whom are you referring as me defending?

I honestly do not know who you mean.

-Edrick (I can has Clarification?)

reply to post by Gazrok

Doesn't have to have nudity in it to be a skin mag

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f2b6bb957b41.jpg[/atsimg]

Noun

skin magazine (plural skin magazines)

1. (slang) An adult or pornographic magazine.

en.wiktionary.org...

Noun

skin flick (plural skin flicks)

1. (chiefly US, slang) A pornographic film.

en.wiktionary.org...

I expected more from a Moderator.

Oh, and By the Way... isn't your Avatar that REALLY EVIL, and Deceptive character who worships death and power, and is sort of a "Racial Purist" from the Harry Potter Series?

-Edrick

reply to post by orangetom1999

Do you not know that Cosmopolitan was famous for doing a full frontal Nudity Shot of Burt Reynolds some years back.

When you say "Full Frontal Nudity", that is somewhat of a misnomer... he *WAS* naked, but he was covering up his "naughty bits"

But, No... I was not aware of this until you said that.

Although, You are merely splitting hairs, and have been for at least a whole page and a half.

I am/was referring to Pornography that is targeted at MEN, and you KNOW this.


So, I'm going to go ahead and re-illiterate my previous point *AGAIN*

Precisely... I would even go so far as to say that THIS was the original purpose of the Magazine. (Referring to Playboy Magazine)

To create a Culture of *EXTREME SEXUALITY* that necessarily destroys familial bonds.

Yeah, there is that Social Proof I was talking about. (Referring to Celebrities writing articles for Playboy as a Justification for believing as AXIOM everything written in the magazine.)

"If Guy/Girl X does it, then *I* must do it!"

It's really incredible, isn't it?

As a piece of social engineering, seeing the results from retrospect, it is quite brilliant, it covers the entire social spectrum.

Yes.... this kind of thing is the Male Counterpart to the Rockefeller Funded Feminist Movement.


Turns women into Sluts, and Whores.... (Referring to the "Liberation of sexuality" aspect of Feminism)

Turns men into Lotharios and Johns.... (Referring to the Playboy Articles)


Great post KilgoreTrout... Starred!

So... do try to Respond to my comments *IN CONTEXT* as opposed to pretending to respond to me, while Spamming Strawmen all over your posts.

Or does the magazine demonstrate extreme self indulgence.

Yes, These magazines portray self indulgence to BOTH sexes, but the methods are, of course, different.


Men want SEX, Women want Power.

Men look for Women with Sexual Appeal, Women look for men with POWER.

This is not Rocket Science.


Women's magazines promise women POWER, Men's magazines promise men SEX...

All you have to do, is abandon Love based relationships... Hurl yourself into Earning Tax money for TPTB, and Divorce Solid Emotional connections from Sexual Relations.

Selling Families Down the River, and under the bus.

Make no mistake here Edrick

I Don't.

properly presented ..obscenity has great appeal to women.

Yes... and by Properly Presented, what you ACTUALLY MEAN, is the exact same thing I mean, except that I spell out what I mean, and you attempt to gloss it over, to obfuscate real understanding of the point.

Not so much because they fear or are concerned about what men think..but because they concern themselves with what the competition thinks.

Yes, their Rivals for Men's Power... Other Women.

It is obvious to me that The Quiet Storm is hugely ignorant of this template and has one dimensional thinking here. You too in some regards.

IT is obvious to me that you are attempting to Spread Ignorance, disguised as "Truth" or "Enlightenment", but all you are doing is clouding the issue, instead of seeking the Truth.

I agree with some of what you and The Quiet Storm are speaking. However it is not going to change things in Western Economically Affluent social structures.

WATCH ME

Women are still going to tend towards men who illustrate the ability to "provide" as long as the women dont have to struggle to hard and can live off social defaults for them and children.

Provide what?

Money that is more and more based upon NOTHING of real value, because all those who actually have the capability to CREATE VALUE are marginalized by people who think that Useless paper money is REAL VALUE, and will stay that way FOREVER?

You want to see something AWESOME?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a51e1677ec23.jpg[/atsimg]

That man, is literally holding *TRILLIONS* of dollars.

He will probably Burn them for the heat they provide, or use them for a mattress... because Fuel and Mattresses cost QUATRILLIONS of dollars, as opposed to a mere Trillion Dollars.

I believe the ignorance is on the part of the Males..not the females.

Keep following the Feminist Agenda... it is quite telling.

As I told the Quiet One...inability to Lead...in every arena...not just sex and sexuality.

There you go again, with your subtle underhanded Remarks... assuming that a lack of Experience in the arena of Sex is automatically indicative of a lack of Ability in ALL ASPECTS of life.

Think about it...any woman who can think for herself..how difficult is it for her to lead a man into bed?? Not at all. What is difficult is to get a man to take huge RISKS for her and children.

Of Course... this explains Perfectly why women prefer to Go after the Commitmentphobe Serial Womanizers who Refuse to ALLOCATE RISK for the woman's benefit.

You are making SO MUCH SENSE!

Somehow with "Oil Shortage Thinking" dominating the landscape here

Well, if you would stop bringing up that Stupid Phrase, it would no longer "Dominate" the landscape here, pal...

You are the one who keeps going back to that "Idea"

Stop trying to steer the conversation into the "Let's all Hate Nice Guys because they are LOSERS" direction.

It makes you seem a tad desperate.

And I hear that the Ladies do not LIKE desperation, ya know?

Beating yourselves up and others for disagreeing with you is not going to change things.

I am not beating myself up, as you are attempting to do... TRANSPARENTLY I might add.

And YES, Things WILL CHANGE.

Take a good look around... you are about to become IRRELEVANT.

However ..I can tell you what will...the economic failure of Western Social/Economic Structures due to Occult influences. Buckle up soon.

No, they didn't WANT the Western Economy to collapse... that part just up and Bit them on the [snip], as it happened before they were ready. Before they got out of the Stock Market to Buy Gold...

Hence, the Bailouts.

Their plan was to use the United States as a Breeding and recruiting ground for their "New World Army"

Breed em Big, and Dumb... Smart enough to pull a Trigger, but too Dumb to see through the Labrynthine complexity of their Evil Plans of Global Conquest.

You are going to see this template played out in a different vein and soon.

You

Have

No

Idea.



-Edrick

reply to post by namine


kk.

thanks.

Really thanks.

reply to post by namine

Please calm down, QS. That's the problem with having a victim mentality. Suddenly everybody is out to get you and you end up misconstruing genuine advice offered to you.

You must not have noticed the part where you all HAVE been ganging up on him.

You see, this is what I see....

TPTB always SAY, exactly what they are doing, in a condescending or Ironic way, as if to dismiss it's authenticity.

I highlight an Example HERE:

namine
...So an all-powerful group of evil entities operates beyond the veils of society, unbeknownst to the population (save for a few extremely inteligent indiviuals lol), poisoining civilization through various elobrate methods not withstanding the intent to cripple society by preventing all the perfectly benelovent "nice guys" from reproducing...

Q.E.D.

You have just been Made.

-Edrick

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
I'm sorry riley, but you seem to either be a shill or simply someone who has been really brainwashed to brand all good guys the same way. You seem to turn EVERYTHING I SAY AROUND! and put things into my head and mouth.

Shill? Who's shill am I then?

No one forced you to come on here and whine about not getting layed.. and that WAS what you were doing. No-one forced you to whine about women not giving you sex just because you claim to be nice. That was ALL you and that WAS what you were saying. If you go re-read the thread you will see I have a problem with the your expectation that random women be responsible for your own lack of sex like being nice should morally obligate them. While you are re-reading the thread.. reread your OWN WORDS and you will see that no-one has taken you out of context.

Typical really.. you already blame an entire gender for your lack of sexual experience it should not be surprizing that you would blame others for your own posts.

I believe the problem is you are finnally starting to realize just how creepy you sound. You are not our victim anymore than those fat chicks you hated on.

reply to post by riley

Shill? Who's shill am I then?

Feminism's

No one forced you to come on here and whine about not getting layed

No-one forced you to come here and attempt (poorly) shame someone into Silence.

and that WAS what you were doing

and that WAS what you were doing.

No-one forced you to whine about women not giving you sex just because you claim to be nice.

No-one forced you to come in here and make bold faced accusations as to the nature of someone elses personality that you have in NO WAY any ability to actually KNOW....

No-One forced you to Trumpet your ASSUMPTIONS about someone else's character, in a Clearly Derogatory manner.

That was ALL you and that WAS what you were saying.

That was ALL you (punctuation goes here) and that WAS what you were saying.

If you go re-read the thread you will see I have a problem with the your expectation that random women be responsible for your own lack of sex like being nice should morally obligate them.

If you go Re-read the thread (punctuation goes here) you will see I have a problem with your ASSUMPTIONS that you know *EVERYTHING* about *EVERYONE*

While you are re-reading the thread.. reread your OWN WORDS and you will see that no-one has taken you out of context.

While you are re-reading the thread.. reread your OWN WORDS and you will see that you have been SHAMELESSLY ATTACKING people who are fed up with people like *YOU* insulting, and shaming them into subservience.

Typical really.. you already blame an entire gender for your lack of sexual experience it should not be surprizing that you would blame others for your own posts.

Typical really.. you already blame Nice guys for their lack of relationships as being entirely their Fault, without even knowing *ONE [SNIP] THING* about them... just useless assumptions.

You seem to think that Being *NICE* is a character Flaw... or, something that you want to completely eradicate from *WESTERN* society....

Like you desire the Western world to become nothing more than a breeding ground for Dumb Animals *WHO FEED OFF OF ONE ANOTHER*

I believe the problem is you are finnally starting to realize just how creepy you sound. You are not our victim anymore than those fat chicks you hated on.

I believe the problem is you are *FINALLY* starting to realize just how SCREWED your entire plan of control IS. YOU are not a Victim... you are the CULPRIT.

Not long now.

-Edrick (Raise your Glass)

reply to post by Edrick


My post was NOT directed at you and I was not attacking.

He made an accusation and I answered it.

He HAS been whining about women not giving him sex and he WAS complaining that "even fat chicks can get sex". He claimed he didn't do all this yet the proof is the thread itself.

Yet here you are again blood thirsty making abusive attacks pretending it's all in defence of him so he won't have to answer. Get over yourself Edrick no-one buys the "defending the innocent" act it has never been your MO.

..and stop trolling me. I was talking to him not you so it is up to HIM to reply.

reply to post by riley

Yet here you are again blood thirsty making abusive attacks pretending it's all in defence of him so he won't have to answer. Get over yourself Edrick no-one buys the "defending the innocent" act it has never been your MO.

Again, I just copied what *YOU* said, and made it relevant to YOU, if you didn't like the tone, if you thought it was accusatory, then perhaps you should check YOURSELF.

You are not going to weasel your way out of this.

You are attacking him, and I will not Allow it.

-Edrick

reply to post by Edrick


...I was highlighting the logic of some "nice guys"...I didn't attribute that to TQS, but the fact you identify him as such is quite telling...

So now I'm TPTB? Been brainwashed into teasing defenseless "nice guys" ?

...



Boy, you sure got me figured out...

Good luck on your crusade. Forgive me for not taking you seriously...

Originally posted by Edrick


No-one forced you to come here and attempt (poorly) shame someone into Silence.

Originally posted by Edrick


I expected more from a Moderator.

Oh, and By the Way... isn't your Avatar that REALLY EVIL, and Deceptive character who worships death and power, and is sort of a "Racial Purist" from the Harry Potter Series?

This was your response to Gazrok because he disagreed on a small trival point.

You insulted Gazrok personally underhandedly based on his Avatar?

Help me out here Edrick,how would you help someone like this,in seeing that the world isn`t alsways cold and cruel because thats all they can see.

Believe or not,people have been trying to help,sometimes its behind their words and not easy to see.

As far as I can see you seem to think people can either be for you or against you and thats the only two opinions avaialable.Here`s another example..

Originally posted by Edrick

And you are being Selfish if you are Demanding Rights that you WILL NOT EARN just because you claim to DESERVE THEM.
Pick a Side, Would you?

Women are Childish Victims in need of Protection...
OR
They are Equal Beings that can Fend for themselves.

You can't Eat your cake, and Have it too.

There are a lot of humans that fit into grey area`s where its not so cut and dry/black or white.

When I was a boy I never tried at all in school,I was only interested in sport,which is quite the opposite to your life/situation,now that has had personal set backs on me throughout my life,though it wasn`t all for nothing,it taught me personal endurance,it taught me how to deal with pain and push through it,like yourself I have had quite a few rejections from women and some were cruel,it never though made me bitter toward those women or any type of women if they could even fit into a label.

So to me somewhere in between you and I there would be the near perfect ideal.

However in amongst all of this people here and myself have offered advise to you in the hope it helps your personal situation,also as like Gazrok he didn`t offer you any advice just disagreed on one small point, then you attacked him personally,you view this as an attack and then attack back,then visa versa and around we go.Where effort has been to try and put another oar in the water so we dont end up only seeing the same scenery.

The analogy you gave to describe you and your situation was the camel and the straw,which says to me you were/are looking at it wrong for it to have broken your back,you will find it near impossible to find your lady the way you are.

But I do admit this is from a moron smiley car (shrugs)

Originally posted by Edrick
reply to post by riley

 

You are not going to weasel your way out of this.

You are attacking him, and I will not Allow it.

Again. I have not been attacking him so there is nothing to "weasel" out of. I have been answering his arguments which heA put forth and I have been sticking to the actual TOPIC despite BOTH OF YOU trying to derail it back to women bashing.

A reminder. The topic is about why "nice guys" get dumped:

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
What gives? I get all dressed up, put on a smiley face and be at my best behavior, but for what? To get dumped again?

Why can't women settle for what they have! Always looking for something better. I was nice to every last woman I ever dated and still they dump me.

What the hell was that for? Am I supposed to be rude and stare at her chest?

I'm wondering what is it you will not allow Edrick?
How exactly are you going to enforce this ruling of yours..?

reply to post by namine

...I was highlighting the logic of some "nice guys"...I didn't attribute that to TQS, but the fact you identify him as such is quite telling...

Really? Did I?

Where EXACTLY did I identify him as a "Nice Guy"....

Quote me please.

So now I'm TPTB? Been brainwashed into teasing defenseless "nice guys" ?

Something along those lines.... although, you may not be consciously aware of it, However... you ARE attempting to belittle Him, and Me.

So... ya know.

Boy, you sure got me figured out...

Yeah, I know... It is really sad how some people "seem" to *FEED* of of other people's negative emotions....

And seem to STARVE when their prey feel good about themselves.

And this is the entire problem with the "Nice Guys" being left out of the Game.

Since they are CIVIL, they are KIND, they are NICE to other people... others may see this as a Weakness to be exploited in order to FEED THEIR OWN EGO'S and become POWERFUL off of the Feelings.

Starvation must be tough for them.

Good luck on your crusade.

Thank you very much.... Good luck with Your plans being defeated.

Forgive me for not taking you seriously...

Oh, don't flatter yourself, You ARE serious... otherwise, you wouldn't still be trying to Control the Perspective.



-Edrick

reply to post by gps777

This was your response to Gazrok because he disagreed on a small trival point.

You insulted Gazrok personally underhandedly based on his Avatar?

Did I insult him?

Really?

I was commenting on a picture... I don't know where you got that I was ATTACKING him.... I really like the harry potter movies, honestly.

Have you ever seen them? They Rock.

Help me out here Edrick,how would you help someone like this,in seeing that the world isn`t alsways cold and cruel because thats all they can see.

You really think that the World isn't cold a Cruel?

Really?

Because the world IS pretty [snip] cruel, Unless you are one of the Privlidged Few, uplifted by the pain and suffering of others, that is.

That wouldn't be You, would it?

Believe or not,people have been trying to help,sometimes its behind their words and not easy to see.

Thank you for seeing what I am doing!

Obviously you were not talking about yourself, with such comments as:

(Oh, this is going to be Great Big FUN!)

Dont whinge that your alone,your "alone" for good reason.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think your ego through your studies has limited your personal growth which is extremely imature.

For you to see couples happily together must burn the crap out of you,leaving you more bitter and twisted.

Its a total waste of life to put yourself through this Edrick,you dont need to find an equal you only need to find the one that makes you complete,rather than a complete A hole.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

That was a good one, by the way... But there is SO MUCH MORE!

Like Here, for Example:

Apologies for my part people in the disruption and name calling etc.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

So, you are trying to help, and yet.... you admit to Hurling insults.

Wow.

But anyways... enough about the Distant past, eh?

As far as I can see you seem to think people can either be for you or against you and thats the only two opinions avaialable.Here`s another example..

Originally posted by Edrick

And you are being Selfish if you are Demanding Rights that you WILL NOT EARN just because you claim to DESERVE THEM.
Pick a Side, Would you?

Women are Childish Victims in need of Protection...
OR
They are Equal Beings that can Fend for themselves.

You can't Eat your cake, and Have it too.

There are a lot of humans that fit into grey area`s where its not so cut and dry/black or white.

Well, there is a DIFFERENCE between people who fit into "Grey Areas", and deliberatley trying to Cover your [snip] in an attempt to look good... so that you can continue to attack with impunity.

This is one of the problems that "Nice Guys" are having... because the People at the top of the Social hierarchy FEED off of, and NEED the approval of others, so... they STEAL IT from others by deceptive means, and controlling perspectives... through *DECEPTION* which, I might add, is an interesting, and Wholly Dis-Honorable way to Wage War.

However in amongst all of this people here and myself have offered advise to you in the hope it helps your personal situation

Oh, yeah... let's go back to all that wonderful advice you offered me, shall we?

Speaking of retarded and hate...

(As you referred to Me and my Posts)
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also I`m the type of guy that would sit you on your butt before you knew what happened if you were to attack a woman or anyone for that matter,just because you get your jollies off from it,like you have displayed yourself as being.But to top it off you`re the type of guy who would say I was trying to get into your victims pants.

From the Same post, mind you... a Threat... And a presumption that I am Physically Violent with the opposite sex...Who'da Thunk it?

And this is ANOUTHER problem that "Nice Guys" have.... the People at the top of the Heirarchy will SLANDER and Insinuate things about them that are Completely False, in order to turn others against them.

It SEEMS quite clandestine, but once you know what to look for, it is actually quite transparent.

So, anyways... back to your post.

also as like Gazrok he didn`t offer you any advice just disagreed on one small point, then you attacked him personally

Really?

Did I attack him?

Would you mind quoting me as opposed to insinuating, or presuming?

you view this as an attack and then attack back

OOOHHHH! I LOVE This game... Tell me what I am thinking *NOW* Mr. Wizard!

Do I get to Tell you what you are thinking also?

Where effort has been to try and put another oar in the water so we dont end up only seeing the same scenery.

"We dance around in circles and suppose, but the secret sits in the middle and knows."

If People would stop Verbally Demeaning "Nice Guys" then we wouldn't have a Problem... but, alas, they keep attempting.

So, I defend the people that they would rather see have their Ego's Crushed, or Remain Crushed.... And *THEY* keep attacking.

I'll still be here. long after they have run out of Ammunition... long after their Weapons have ceased to work from overheating...

I'll be here..... Just hopping along...

(Hop, Hop, Hop, Hop, Hop)

Oh, by the Way... do you know where Albuquerque is?

The analogy you gave to describe you and your situation was the camel and the straw,which says to me you were/are looking at it wrong for it to have broken your back,you will find it near impossible to find your lady the way you are.

See? there you go again.

I was not referring to myself, I am CLEARLY a Bunny Rabbit... Not a Camel.

Gosh, Golly, Gee Willikers.

And there you are, forgetting that I do not LOOK for these "Ladies" that you speak of, I mean this was only a couple of Pages ago that I spelled this out Quite Clearly...

Did you already forget?

Edrick:
What makes you think that I must be ALONE because I am not in a relationship?

Are you really that OBSESSED with Sex, that you think that anyone who is not having sex, is a loser?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

And THIS:

Edrick:
Yeah, I have never been "Dumped" for being a Nice Guy.... Just for Your Information.

I have never been in a relationship, thank you very much.... I am just attacking the plans of the elite that I see as having a detrimental effect on Society.

No, I don't have "Sexual Entitlement Issues" I do not pursue Women, and have instead elected a path of Celibacy.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Seriously... Short memories are a Drag, aren't they?

But I do admit this is from a moron smiley car (shrugs)

Aw... you shouldn't be so hard on yourself man....

Why So Serious, Anyways?

It's just life... no-one gets out alive...

Seriously though... You shouldn't insult yourself like that, I'm starting to worry about you.

Keep your chin up, and keep doing your thing man!

-Edrick (It will be alright)