Why do women break up with nice guys?

reply to post by Edrick


Absolute bollocks

While you may have a fair point or two muddled in there somewhere, your overdramatic prose and sweeping generalisations make it hard to find anything of substance in your posts. Come on, meek = virtuous and confidence = tyranny? Get serious.

Why can’t a confident man be a good and an intelligent man, too? Is it not possible for intelligent men to be tyrants? Would you consider the Illuminati to be tyrants? Would you consider the Elite to be intelligent? Being weak, socially inept, and smart doesn’t automatically make you a good person as being confident doesn’t automatically make you a brain-dead brute. Einstein got laid, JFK got laid, are these people tyrants in your book?

There’s a broad spectrum of men and women, and sure some women may fall into the category you talk about – why bother with them if they’re not your type? I doubt whining about them is going to change the way they are. If you want a meaningful relationship, look for a meaningful partner? The onus is on you to find them and vice versa. Some people buy into the media’s concept of an ideal partner, but some people are intelligent enough to spot that and know that’s not the type of person they want to be dealing with, right?

I’m afraid for a lot of women it’s not enough for a guy to be good. Everybody is good and everybody is bad. It takes a little more to be attractive.

Originally posted by orangetom1999

The Quite Storm,

Went to public schools did you?? Got a television/movie education. Are you a "Victim??"

Do you need a makeover to get through the day Quiet Storm??



I am not interested in your sex life or your sexuality.

Umm? Did you go to private school OT,the above I think is a contradiction,but I must be wrong because I only went to public school and left to work at 15.

I`ll leave out the rest of your insults toward Quiet storm.

If you are trying to help the guy have a bit more heart dude.

reply to post by namine

While you may have a fair point or two muddled in there somewhere, your overdramatic prose and sweeping generalisations make it hard to find anything of substance in your posts. Come on, meek = virtuous and confidence = tyranny? Get serious.

I am serious, and you have clearly missed the entire point on purpose.

Is it not possible for intelligent men to be tyrants? Would you consider the Illuminati to be tyrants?

The Illuminati ARE smart, and they do not want Intelligent Competition.

Q.E.D.

Being weak, socially inept, and smart doesn’t automatically make you a good person as being confident doesn’t automatically make you a brain-dead brute.

You are again, missing the point on purpose.

You are a Woman, aren't you?

Einstein got laid, JFK got laid, are these people tyrants in your book?

You are still missing the point on purpose...

Do me a favor, Read what I wrote again, and try not to let your emotions cloud your judgment.

There’s a broad spectrum of men and women, and sure some women may fall into the category you talk about – why bother with them if they’re not your type?

Ah... the Classic "Not all women are like that"

Typical.

I doubt whining about them is going to change the way they are.

Again... Typical Response... "I'm Whining"

Seriously... It's like you don't have the creativity to refute my arguments without automatically going towards the Shaming language of the Feminist Movement.

Some people buy into the media’s concept of an ideal partner, but some people are intelligent enough to spot that and know that’s not the type of person they want to be dealing with, right?

Women are creatures of Social Appeal..... As is their Nature, being Social creatures, living within the Approval of the Tribe.

That which is Socially accepted to be "Popular" is what women desire.

And since the Main method that people in the western world learn about culture is "Mass Media", what people perceive as "Socially Acceptable" is totally controlled by the Mainstream Media, and the corporations that own it all.

Everybody is good and everybody is bad.

You *WHINE* about me "Generalizing", and then you throw THIS out here....

You are a Woman, Admit it.

-Edrick

reply to post by gps777


Edrick was obviously being sarcastic. of course you saw differently. Shy women DON'T have problems finding sex. You had sex with her didn't you?

reply to post by gps777


You speak of prostitution. I am constantly working on myself. What am I to wait for a girl to come to me, when the fact is NO woman thinks of coming on to a guy unless she looks down upon him or wants to use him and abuse him whether it's conscious of unconscious (usually anyways).

How many times I have been rejected because a woman thought I was not AGGRESSIVE enough!? Let alone, she didn't care about assertiveness. She didn't want assertiveness because that requires that people actually start to act like people, and with understanding and knowledge. A utopian existence. She wanted AGGRESSION, not "assertiveness".

reply to post by The Quiet Storm


OH! sarcasim radar on the fritz here

Disregard the response then Edrick

reply to post by gps777

OH! sarcasim radar on the fritz here

Disregard the response then Edrick

No Worries.

I sometimes forget that people cannot hear my tone of voice in Text...

I should have put a little smiley after it! LOL!

-Edrick

reply to post by namine


The reason you see truth in Edrick's posts is because it truly describes the vast majority.

Even if not "all women" are like that, the majority rules. Countless women say that not all women are like that, and that its in fact a rarity, yet they themselves ARE like that and it's not as rare as they think, it's the majority.

In fact, many women just like to think that if they can be "one" harsh and brutal way towards good men, another woman will just make up for it. In reality all of them think the same and not one woman stands up for the Just cause.

reply to post by Edrick


Hehe, you are too funny. I hope calling me a woman is not your idea of an insult?

“Not all women are like that” indeed. It is typical, it is cliché, it is sooo obvious and it’s also the truth. Do you honestly believe every single western woman is subject to the mass media?

It seems to me these “nice guy” types lust after the very women they complain about, and throw a fit when those type of women don’t return that lust. If she doesn’t find you sexy, she doesn’t find you sexy. Face it, you are incompatible. You can try to be what she wants in a man, you can hope she comes ‘round and tries to be what you want in a woman, or you can forget her and look for someone who is compatible.

I truly believe everybody’s got a bit of nice in them and a bit of bad. Do you? When a guy says “oh women should like me coz I’m a nice guy” is like saying “oh women should like me coz I got a bit of nice in me.” Guess what, everybody does? And hey that might be all that it takes to pull the woman they want, but they make the error of believing that woman is the type they often lust after.

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm


You speak of prostitution.

No I`m not,if a women only see`s the material,then she falls into those I mentioned as trouble.

I am constantly working on myself. What am I to wait for a girl to come to me, when the fact is NO woman thinks of coming on to a guy unless she looks down upon him or wants to use him and abuse him whether it's conscious of unconscious (usually anyways).

As I said you don`t know whats just around the corner,but keep this same attitude and you`ll keep running into these types because thats all you believe is in front of you.

How many times I have been rejected because a woman thought I was not AGGRESSIVE enough!?

Lookin for love in all the wrong places?

If you want to give up,thats entirely up to you,though dont blame those bad apples you keep running into,because there are still level headed women out there.

reply to post by The Quiet Storm


Okay, if you believe that then accept it's a rarity. I'm sure guys like you are a rarity, too? And when you meet that someone special it will be all the more special. The trouble is the "nice guys" are looking for that "rarity" in the wrong places, and get frustrated because they can't find what they're looking for. Being "nice" or "book smart" is just not enough for the type of woman they lust after.

reply to post by namine


Not exactly.

Any woman who is capable of provoking lust is the same way then?

Any beautiful woman?

Even I like the women who most men don't even like.. because I see beauty in all women. I'm not good enough for even those women either it seems.

It amazes me, I'm not a bad looking guy. I see people who would be considered worse than I, and they get much more than me. It's usually because they try to fit in with the crowd, that's the only way. Ie, the males they portray themselves to be 'bad boys'.

reply to post by namine

Hehe, you are too funny. I hope calling me a woman is not your idea of an insult?

Insult?

Hardly.... You have the Reasoning Capacity of the Average Western Woman.

Thus, My question.

“Not all women are like that” indeed. It is typical, it is cliché, it is sooo obvious and it’s also the truth. Do you honestly believe every single western woman is subject to the mass media?

Do you honestly believe that One good woman, automatically Negates the Self centered Vanity of the Vast majority of western woman?

The Vast majority of western women are *NOT* Helen Thomas....

They are Paris Hilton.

It seems to me these “nice guy” types lust after the very women they complain about, and throw a fit when those type of women don’t return that lust.

It seems to me that western women DEMAND power that they do not Earn, Whine about wanting More privileges than they Deserve, And in general, Do not Understand Causality.

You lie down with the Dogs Honey... You will wake up with Fleas.

You can try to be what she wants in a man

A selfish jerk who cares not for other people?

No thanks. I have a little thing called Integrity, You might want to look that word up.

If she doesn’t find you sexy, she doesn’t find you sexy.

And remember Class..... This is your Average Western Woman.

One who Judges men, not on the Content of their Character... but on their Appearance.

Which is all that Western Women Understand.... Appearances.

How many women Read books to better themselves?

And how many just put on Push up Bra's, High Heels, Makeup, and Low cut shirts.


Western Women Understand Appearances, Not Personality.

Thus, they only *SEE* Appearances, and not Personality.


They do not understand personality, because THEY are never JUDGED on the quality of their personality....

Because they are Judged only on their Appearances.

As they are judged (and rewarded with Attention) by men who do not *HAVE* personalities, other than what the Mainstream Media *GIVES* them.

-Edrick

reply to post by SuperSlovak


Yes,stare at her boobies.

Pfft,it's the human disease to always search for something more.Don't take it personally,man.Just dust urself off and get back out there.

reply to post by Edrick


I do wonder sometimes if women have the capacity to understand philosophy like ethics and morality. If they have any concept whatsoever of Good, Virtue, Justice, Value and Honor and not just in movies. and not Right brain thinking does not simply mean stupidity. But then again it's because I haven't met enough women right? Because "not all women are like that" even though it's without exception every woman I have ever come across.

Do you think it's because men have oppressed women and not given them the opportunity for education?

So I give them benefit of the doubt.

And.. I should apologize if there really is one out there.

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm

Even I like the women who most men don't even like..

Nothing wrong with that,actually if most men like the Pam Anderson only types then I`d say you have a healthier outlook but........

because I see beauty in all women.

I think this is where your stumbling most,although I agree they do have parts in all the right places along with other qualities,you need to find the right type for you,instead of hoping to get with any women.

If I`m reading that right.

reply to post by The Quiet Storm

Do you think it's because men have oppressed women and not given them the opportunity for education?

No, it's not because of Oppression.

Men must learn Right Action, because there are VERY REAL consequences for their Actions...

Use protection, or Pay child support...

Be Civil, or Be Jailed, or Beaten.

Be Productive, or Be Homeless.


MEN protect women from the consequences of their actions, thus, they learn that their Actions HAVE no consequences.... because a MAN will always take care of it.

They do not understand Repercussions, because they have never had to face them.

They do not understand Logic, because They are Protected from Causality by the Men who love them.

They do not understand personality, Because men will Shower them with Attention based upon their Physical appearances ALONE, Despite how horrible their personality is.

And this all comes crashing down as they Age, and the same men who were chasing them because of their beauty, move on to "Younger Pastures", and these poor girls never HAD to develop a Descent personality.

So, they become Bitter because they were sold a False Bill of Goods.

Men Have NOT (Contrary to PC belief) Oppressed Women... they have PROTECTED THEM from Reality, and the Consequences of Nature. (Not to mention the Predations of Lotharios.... Thanks for screwing that one up, Sexual Revolution!)



-Edrick

reply to post by Edrick


Yep, I believe there's more than one good western woman out there. I know the type of woman you hold contempt for. That type of woman happens to be what most men gun for, including the "nice guys". Most western men pride themselves on hooking up with that type of woman, maybe that's the mass media's influence on the majority of men, too? Maybe it's a problem with society as a whole that warrants a better solution than "blame all the women" ? If most men didn't fancy that type of woman, it would be phased out, or at least there'd be a lot fewer of them, wouldn't you say?

reply to post by The Quiet Storm


Hey Quiet Storm,

What do they say when you ask them why you're not good enough? Maybe they are not good enough for you, have you ever looked at it that way? You obviously have standards that these women don't meet. Maybe you are after the wrong type of woman?

reply to post by namine

If most men didn't fancy that type of woman, it would be phased out, or at least there'd be a lot fewer of them, wouldn't you say?

Ah... you Gain Wisdom!

Here... this is a post I put up on page 19, I recommend watching the Embedded Video:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is a Direct link to the Video:

"The merchants of Cool"
video.google.com...#

It spells it all out quite nicely.

And as an addendum: Women learn what is "Acceptable Behavior" by whatever gets them the Attention that they Crave.

Lotharios Do not care about a Girls personality, only about her... "Assets"

Thus, The Privileged Princess Mentality.

Not to mention the Politicians Pandering to women's sense of Entitlement in order to gain Votes.... and Advertisers also.

-Edrick