Uncensored NASA Moon Images!!

double post.. sorry

[edit on 20-8-2008 by Willbert]

Originally posted by thrashee
reply to post by ArMaP

 

That's not the track picture that was posted originally.

I'm looking for the originals of these:

[edit on 20-8-2008 by thrashee]

Actually... ArMaP gave you the right file. The location is near the bottom right corner of that photo...

I found a lot of other "tracks" in that file pointing towards that crater.

Anyone know the name of that crater?

At first I thought "scratches". Still do... but find it interesting that the seem to be pointing to the crater.

This will be my last personal response to those who wish to keep protracting this argument. While I don't quite understand how just after I've been accused of derailing a thread, not contributing anything to the OP, and merely being negative for purposes of the ego, you all wish to keep going on this discussion.

Originally posted by rjmelter
Personally I dont understand why you are trying to discredit these findings. From the energy you've put forth in the entire thread its evident. Do not try to cover up your fragrance... its too late for that.

I'm not trying to discredit these findings--we haven't even concluded what these findings are yet, have we? The only claim I've made is that these remain unknowns. What I have discredited are any ridiculous remarks that these photos will finally bring NASA down, that this is proof beyond all doubt, etc. It's not. Again I'll remind you that I've engaged quite logically with the OP on this and am actively trying to discern the facts.

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Just about all abductions are perceived as malevolent when in fact the majority of them are not

Then you're contradicting yourself. You've told me personally that you would not wish these experiences on me. You've stated that the greys are manipulative. You've stated that abductees would choose not to have gone through their experiences if they could (in fact, I just cited that quote a few posts ago).

I think you could use a good anal probe yourself via the doctors office, is it really all that bad?…

Oh, now it's via a doctor's office and not by your eliciting the help of aliens. Funny how that one has changed.

The fact that you're now rewriting both your impressions and your original remark to antiskeptic only demonstrates that you're backing away from the poor taste of that remark. I find that cowardly, especially since you have no problem calling out the insensitivity of skeptics.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
I've no argument with your posts just your attitude and unwanted,unwarranted and unwelcome sarcasm.

But the posts are the only way you can judge my attitude. Curious.

I'll say this a final time: I have been sarcastic, I have been skeptical. But my posts here, at least up until the lynching, have been on target and have been well within appropriate behavior. I haven't shouted, I haven't name-called, and I haven't attacked anyone. Up until you, TruthTellist, and Malevolent decided to make this a circus regarding me, I've hardly contaminated this thread.

Again, if you disagree or feel the need to quibble with me any more, just send a U2U.

reply to post by mikesingh


I was replying to the person who said it definitely proved there are structures on the moon. Go look at his post.

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
TO OP: Mike, what do you think these pics are, I didn't really catch what you yourself think they are, or are not? Cheers!

Z

Hi wZn! Pardon me for not mentioning your name in full! I have to catch a train, you see!! Ok, just jokin'!

Now regarding your question of what I think these anomalies are, I would hasten to add that I haven't the faintest clue! Well actually there are just three choices to lean on.

1. Natural geological features.
2. Ruins of an ancient ET civilization.
3. We Earthlings having a presence there.

Now in the absence of any evidence for any of the above, I would just say they are interesting anomalies that need further analysis. However, I don’t think we will ever be able to arrive at a definite conclusion until we (not the government agencies!) actually get our boots out there.

So the proverbial question mark remains!

Cheers!

Originally posted by johnthebon
the track are probably rover's

Man am I glad school is starting soon... this is incredible

Did you even read the post just above yours?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 20-8-2008 by zorgon]

I'm afraid I did not m' Lord!
What does school have to do with my rover remark? (I haven't bothered reading through 15 pages of a (in my opinion) less interesting thread just so I could've made a more clever remark about a line on the moon).
It's incredible but I DO have to work for a living. (don't feel attacked)

[edit on 20-8-2008 by johnthebon]

reply to post by thrashee
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Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
I've no argument with your posts just your attitude and unwanted,unwarranted and unwelcome sarcasm.



But the posts are the only way you can judge my attitude. Curious.

You, my friend, are beyond help. With every sentence you write your undeserved arrogance is overwhelming. You know exactly what I, and others, are saying but you choose to mirepresent or twist our words then throw thinly veiled insults at us.
I'll say this one last time. I have no problem with your sceptical utterances just there sarcastic overtones.

reply to post by Willbert


Thanks for the clarification.

I will say this, regardless of what is in the photos: I have a new-found respect for the OP who has the patience to sort through these photos to such a fine degree.

Originally posted by Acharya

I said this in page 7, forget to credit me or did you just miss it, Zorgon?

I think it has been said multiple times. Problem is, people here don't like to read. Maybe with pictures and stuff it will help make an impression. If they don't like words, use pictures! LOL.

As i sit here and read posts daily, you would be surprised at how many true bombshells are dropped and just get ignored. I would even bother to guesstimate how many I miss. But I KNOW how many are missed by others.

Then there is the common lament of Zorgon (and others, including myself) that people will completely ignore a link provided, yet still continue commenting.

[edit on 20-8-2008 by bigfatfurrytexan]

Originally posted by thrashee
I apologize if this has already been answered, but:

For yet another time, to the OP or to anyone else:

Can you please provide the image or file name of the "tracks" photo? The photos have been renamed as posted here, so we cannot independently verify which set this image belongs to on the ASU website.

Yep! This was already provided way back and is now lost in the deep caverns of this thread!! Anyway to cut your agony short, here's the image:

lo3-72-h2c
ser.sese.asu.edu...

You can only see them in the zoom mode. There are many more 'tracks', but try this first.

Cheers!

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I heard the earth has five moons but you cant see them because of all the polution.

If there is something to this poster, then is it possible that the photos we are looking at or continue to research are from different moons than the physical one we see when looking up?

As you know the only research I do is through meditation and what I have learned here, from all of you.

This 'is' one of the most amazing pieces of evidence I have ever seen.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
You, my friend, are beyond help. With every sentence you write your undeserved arrogance is overwhelming. You know exactly what I, and others, are saying but you choose to mirepresent or twist our words then throw thinly veiled insults at us.
I'll say this one last time. I have no problem with your sceptical utterances just there sarcastic overtones.

Is there a reason why you could not have sent this via U2U, as I asked? Don't answer that, this has gone on long enough.

Back to the OP:

Thanks, I found the spot in the photo. So the image was taken by the orbiter, which precludes any rover activity. Could it be something on the film itself? I'm thinking a splintered meteor is unlikely. Otherwise, yes, this is curious indeed.

reply to post by johnthebon


When someone comes in half way through a conversation and starts rehashing things that were already discussed, it is frustrating. It is the reason that I will not start a meeting until all my employee's are present. I am not in the habit of repeating myself professionally, as time is money and i like efficiency.

This is the same type of environment you are in at ATS. Each post should add some value to a conversation. If you fail to read the thread, then you do not know what the conversation has entailed. This puts little value in your post, as you have no point of context.

Most people here have jobs. I work upwards of 60 hours a week running a call center with about 300 employees. If i am not at work, i am likely being called from work. I realize that people get busy. However, if you are not able to stay abreast of the conversation, perhaps you could refrain from comment? It would benefit all to a greater degree as people who are involved will not have to rehash. And you will learn more (like my grandmother always said, the Lord gave us two ears and one mouth so we could listen twice as much as we talk).

If it is worth participating, it is worth knowing what you are participating in.

Originally posted by Willbert
I usually find Mike to be quite detailed.. and leaving this fact out seems a bit odd.

Hi Willbert! That's a goof up by me which is inexcusable!! I was so preoccupied with those images, that I forgot to include the refs for each image. Instead I just listed them out in Word and then forgot which ref belonged to which image! Can there be a bigger mutt on planet Earth? No!

However, I have provided the image links to the specific images asked for, but they're all over this thread! Anyway, let me know which particular image you are interested in and I'll get to work.

Apologies once again!

Cheers!

Havn't readthe whole thread yet, got to page 12 then I got sick of some posts in here.

It seems like the "Learn how to petronize someone who does not share your point of view" class in debunker school must be many sceptics favourite class.

How come that as soon as a group of people who share the same point of view and beliefs speculate and discuss about something, a debunker or a sceptic has to fill in into the discussions and loud and clear announce that all that belive what this group is talking about is morons. And to wreck the ongoing discussion with ridicolous crusade attempts just to try to make others change their point of views to the "right" one.

Why the heck can't you let people discuss and speculate without getting names and other mean things thrown at them?

Why not just make a post where you state what you belive in good manners and be IN the discussion with an open mind?

Do your debunk thing and DO be a sceptic. There needs to be a balance, but don't make posts that in some sort of way attacks someone here or someone not present. I can't see the use of it really.

When it comes to buildings on the moon I am a cautious wannabe believer.
Many if the pics I believe to be rocks, but many of them do have things in it that one just can't dismiss as "it's rocks...all of it yadda yadda".

One thing I am wondering about is, why would Nasa smudge out rocks from some pictures? And, The NASA people are not super humans. As many have stated here many of these things we see are very hard to find, so my best guess is that it is just as hard for NASA to notice these things. And to miss something wouldn't be to non logical.

I found the "base on the moon" matter quite intruiging and interesting, would be cool if there was structures there, So to me the possibilities to find structures or not has the same chance.

And one more thing, Structure or Rock....both has to be proven, not just one of them.

[Edit] Forgot to thank OP for directing me to the pictures. Thank you. =)

[edit on 20-8-2008 by Akezzon]

reply to post by thrashee

Then you're contradicting yourself. You've told me personally that you would not wish these experiences on me. You've stated that the greys are manipulative. You've stated that abductees would choose not to have gone through their experiences if they could (in fact, I just cited that quote a few posts ago).

Thrashee, your a lost cause on this subject and will never understand unless a miracle happens, I’ll give you small credit for being good at twisting words around but that‘s all. No answers to your questions my skeptical little friend, you remain incapable of understanding greys, abductions and why they happen etc. etc. etc.

Oh, now it's via a doctor's office and not by your eliciting the help of aliens. Funny how that one has changed. The fact that you're now rewriting both your impressions and your original remark to antiskeptic only demonstrates that you're backing away from the poor taste of that remark. I find that cowardly,

Who says I’m backing away from anything, my original comment was meant as a joke to septic skeptic as was my comment to you. Whether an alien or doctor drops you a probe either way all the same and best of luck to you, enjoy it.

This will be my last personal response to those who wish to keep protracting this argument.

Let us hope that you stand true to your words and this is indeed your last response.




[edit on 20-8-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]

As usual someone makes a good post (MikeSingh) and as usual by page 18 or 19 it's deteriorated into insults and bickering and the thread topic gets lost. Bravo...debunkers and derailers win again.

reply to post by tyranny22


I guess I'm not sure what you mean. The post I replied to was a post you made in reply to olegkvasha where he (or she) posted the same pictures and referred to them as a crater. The only reference to domes I see in the thread is Antar asking Mike about it, and him responding between olegkvasha's original post of the pictures and your dome post. I don't see how your point (that the pictures were tampered with based on the dome evidence) could stand if nobody implied the craters were domes in the first place.

If I'm making a mistake in logic, reading comprehension, or I missed the post where they were originally referred to as domes (hell, I may have someone on ignore and I didn't see that post or something) by all means please point it out for me.

reply to post by skeppo

Secondly, how did i insult John Lear?

...and in the next breath.

I don't know the guy but i know he lives iin a dream world! John Lear asks for what he gets. If he was not the discredited farce he is i would keep my mouth shut but people with such spectacular claims need to back this up with spectacular evidence for which i have seen none from him or in this thread, sorry to burst your bubble.

If you don't think that's insulting I'd hate to see what you think is insulting...

reply to post by Ferengi


That's a real stretch dude. Like Mulder, I'm willing to believe almost anything but it has to at least have a modicum of plausibility. That really just looks like rocks to me.

Everyone get back on topic. Thrasee has since previous posts explained his thoughts and has asked for a change in heading from the rest of us... and he has SINCE THEN acted more manorly and has attempted to be a part of the debate... (a contributor) so back off and get on topic?

Originally posted by Malynn
As usual someone makes a good post (MikeSingh) and as usual by page 18 or 19 it's deteriorated into insults and bickering and the thread topic gets lost. Bravo...debunkers and derailers win again.

Yes, I strongly agree with you. It is so sad to see a thread becoming a sceptic vs believer war zone.

*sigh* I try to refocus discussion and am ignored. It seems you all would rather bicker than discuss something pretty darn interesting about the spire picture. Maybe I should start a new thread for just that annomaly? Maybe I am iggied by the majority of the board. Maybe someone wants to take credit for what I have done on another board?

Please for the love of ALL THAT IS HOLY please, oh please, I am on my knees. What do you think about my idea that the hollow framework looking thingy below the spire matches up pretty well with the ramp between the framework and the spire? Does anyone know of any other images of this site?

Hoagland would go NUTZ for this stuff!

rocks, swamp gas, weather balloons oh my!

Originally posted by stikkinikki

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