Hardcore Semi encrypted conspiracy site

Ninthaxis, will you mind posting all her replies together in one post?
Perhaps is we can see all of them together we might get wiser.

Also the full internet headers of one of her emailed replies will not hurt either... Yahoo mails usually also contain the IP address of the sender in these headers.

Originally posted by WinstonSmith911
I stumbled across this site by pure accident, and it's intruiged me ever since. There's so much to it.. so much that is unexplained.. I think there's a story here, maybe a message.
I just thought it would bu fun to try and decipher the meaning of this page..
Can anyone give me any insight at all?

There's not much info for someone to pay hosting fees to Yahoo. There is an email address - write to her.

D.E.B.B.I.E said the Third Wave is here now
10 spies from Russia used simples websites to send messages to each others , been recently caughts

Obama have now the power to use the futur internet kill switch if terrorism suspected

Lurk more, its a vertical one

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Not to mention that the Netherlands beat Brazil! oO Whoohoo!
(Julle het hul gatte mooi geskop! Briljant!)

Sometimes things works better while HORIZONTAL!

Come now Otto...

To speak and to speak well are two things. A fool may talk, but a wise man speaks. ~Ben Jonson

The true genius shudders at incompleteness - and usually prefers silence to saying something which is not everything it should be. ~Edgar Allan Poe

It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and resolve all doubt. ~Abraham Lincoln

Don't speak unless you can improve on the silence. ~Spanish Proverb

Blessed is the man who, having nothing to say, abstains from giving evidence of the fact. ~George Eliot

He's a wonderful talker, who has the art of telling you nothing in a great harangue. ~Jean Baptiste Molière

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I have suspicions that OTTO is only intending to confuse us. I have looked at his posts on other threads here on ATS and he speaks coherently, not all this cryptic mumbo jumbo. I don't know if he thinks he's impressing anyone, but I have personally U2U'd him multiple times and he refuses to respond. I am very close to putting him on ignore because of the whole mess.

"debbiewins" belongs on the venice beach board walk...the normal breed of crazy ass homeless guy with dreads shaking his fist at the sky while scolding god for allowing "ronald regan to steal his footprints" has gotten old. a crazy ass person who isn't homeless dressed up as homeless while complaining about abdominal pain from oprah winfrey attacking them with a "laser" would be so fresh! she could sell and make jewlery out of anything with a 'best by' date containing the numbers 1, 9, 5 and 3 since MK-ULTRA started in1953.

Thanks for your insights Ciledehgaem. I guess all to their own...
Looking at your posts thus far all I can say is "people in glass houses...".
On a personal note - I am scared of people who reverses things (like names) - I am scared of Oprah, thats for sure. As per Debbie: "Satanists reverse things to send messages!".

I concur fullheartedly with you NinthAxis regarding our little german friend OttoKarma (seemingly a big Anarchy Online player) here. On his board he uses the same "language" that he uses here. Also note his "Avatar" picture on this board.
Anyway I can't find any reference or warning to a "3rd wave" but more to a "4th reich". (I believe Otto also refered to a certain Nazi SS Officer in ATS somewhere LOL).
In the youtube clip the caller said "bones" did the WTC and then spelled her site "d-e-b-b-i-e-dubya-i-n-s.com".
In the federalwitness.info site: "Bones - Tools and weapons of Skull".
Obviously this related to the "Skull and Bones" Yale secret society "The Order of Death". We know that the Bushes was/is members of this society. "Dubya" seems to be a "term of endearment" given to George W Bush by some Americans. I think this Youtube clip linked the Skull and Bones to George W Bush to the WTC event. do we know when this video was 1st posted?
Further research into the "Skull and Bones" revealed that this society could be based on the Nazi SS society and that the Skull & Bones is just the American chapter. The S&B annual new 15 "tapped" members goes through the same rituals that the Nazi SS went through. One eyewitness saw a "Nazi Temple/Shrine" in the S&B building at Yale. The logo (Jolly Roger) of the S&B is also the same insignia the Nazi SS wore.
Also there are posts on ATS which comments on the similar way the Nazi SS came into power / war on Jews and the war in Iraq when comparing the burning down of a German building and the WTC event. Also of note was the "health reform" issues when compared.
There is also evidense that S&B members financed Hitler and his war machine.
"Hitler" are mentioned quite a number of times in the federalwitness.com site when googling the following: "hitler site:www.federalwitness.info...".
When then researching things related to the above some very "worrysome" information are found...

Just my 2 cents...

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Debbie says a lot of nothing. "it's all bull---- and it's all bad for you".

To me, satanism and ism's in general are just another form of dungeons and dragons.

"The devil only exists because of your belief in him,
Same goes for that other guy,
I believe the sun is simply reflecting the shine from the moon
Stealing its spotlight, they'll have a cockfight at noon"
etc etc.

As for the "people in glass houses shouldn't" part.....

I'm not saying debbie is right or wrong...her reality is her own. Hence, "Debbie says"

If you choose to accept debbie's reality as your own reality then you are....little debbie.

The meaning of my post: My state of awareness is way past the numbers, places, times, dates, events, and conspiracies. My interests now lie in areas such as: the blind following of any theory just because it's anti government and the inability to see that blindly following a conspiracy theory because it sounds good is no different than blindly following the government. These people will call people who watch Fox News sleeping sheep who believe everything they are fed, but then turn around, watch a David Icke documentary and act like it's the gospel..no questions asked.

It quickly becomes evident that the only inside job is the term "inside job".


About my handle:

My real name is Meaghan....my original name for this site was MEAGHEDELIC (figure it out) but had some account trouble. Created a new one...Ciledehgaem.

Nothing more nothing less.

But maybe you should go ask debbie....I think she'll know.

In conclusion:

"The unsettled mind is at times an ally,
Leaving the senses to fend for themselves,
The senses collect undeniable data,
About beta carotine and thetawaves,
The unsettled mind is at times an ally,
Leaving the senses to fend for themselves,
Then, the senses wanted the sky...

All rise, eyes BOW
Time feels like a midnight ride,
Finality waits outside,
Weeping in perplexity's arms,
Caressing our smiles inside...

The national debt is at times an ally,
Leaving the people to fend for themselves,
The people collect undeniable data,
About high pulse weapons and microwaves,
The national debt is at times an ally,
Leaving the people to fend for themselves,
Then, the people found out the lie...

All rise, eyes BOW
Now our eyes have been found
Time feels like a midnight ride,
Finality waits outside,
Weeping in perplexity's arms,
Caressing our smiles inside,

Waiting to get you high,
Waiting to touch the sky,

All rise, eyes BOW
Now our eyes have been found
Time feels like a midnight ride,
Finality waits outside,
Weeping in perplexity's arms,
Caressing our smiles in-"









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Otto Karma

you cant connect the dots, aren't you ?
Ignorance is bliss it seem.

Ninthaxis, didnt received your U2U.


Sidenote
before choosing a name like Falsifer, try to gain more knowledge.
Ignorance is bliss.

I gave all the infos i got about D.E.B.B.I.E not my fault if you cant chew yourself the parts i gave you guys.

Maybe you're not used enought to think without someone holding your hand ?
Call it Disinfo ?

Anyways, lurk more.

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Hi Meaghan,

1st off I'd like to sincerely apologise for for my prior reply to your post. I was somewhat irritated and in a foul mood, and as some of us guys get, I lashed out without thinking... I am truly sorry my dear...

As for me believing in satan / the devil... I guess I believe as much in satan as I believe in God, but this is another story which I will gladly discuss with you at another time.

As far as Debbie goes - I certainly do not accept Debbie's reality as my own, but her story is quite intreaging (sp?) to some of us. Although her sites seem like the ramblings of a "slighty touched" individual, after studying a bit, there are a lot of references to many "agenda's". Enough references to doubt whether this person(s) are indeed insane. The mentioned web sites are cryptic (to say the least) and I for one believe that even more information is "hidden" within all these cryptic references. If you read through this whole thread from the very start you will see how many of us feel... And how frustrating it was to others... A lot of drama in here lol.

I can see that you are a highly intelligent person and do not doubt this for a second, but no, in this case we are not "... blindly following of any theory just because it's anti government...". To be honest we are not sure what to make of Debbie and her web sites, and thus this massive thread - to try and understand what all of this is about.
And yes, I do catch the gust of what you are saying and are in accordance with you: "These people will call people who watch Fox News sleeping sheep who believe everything they are fed, but then turn around, watch a David Icke documentary and act like it's the gospel..no questions asked.". I am sure there is a word for people like this - a word comes to mind tho' but that word will be censored by the moderators.

I too like to listen to System Of A Down from time-to-time... Groovy song that...
PS: Shouldn't that be "... All rise, eyes bound..."?

Peace and Love.

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Ah Otto, Mein guter Freund,

Somehow I am very critical to believe you to be an assoc prof, but if it is indeed the case - good for you.

Ok, as per the request of the OP in the very 1st post:

I just thought it would bu fun to try and decipher the meaning of this page.. Can anyone give me any insight at all?

Now, let us examine some your so-called "contributions" towards this request:

Infos Dissected : here are the infos IP found: Mil Class relayed on Tri directional stream (count blind stream) Osan.af.mil AF.mil oh and of course you can count for relay one of the most important ISP broadcasting all around the net we're watching and we're watched and the watchers are watched too and found similar IP .... weirdly all infos streams are forwarded to Dod IP classes second weird parts, most of the IP was spoofed

Eerily similar to what you said in the BlackJack thread:

half of the IP adress are CLASS 3 adresses, the person who built the website is apparently using .mil computers to hide more easily. For more informations,the last locating spot is Fort Worth, Dallas, Class 3 Arlington Mil base, most of the IP are using "fake pipes"

Seems all baddies are using .mil computers?

Now here this gets really crazy:

Actualy, they're using the pwd echelon table with the agreement of the Alphabet soup, D.E.B.B.I.E husband was No-Ko, and knew about the MK on the US territory, Mk still running in No-Ko

Huh?

the main key hide the real key, this one is used only as a "fake"

Say what?

MHTYH Fort Lauderdale. ATI Career ,actually data minning with the help of STRATCOM Koehler's Pig-MAYDAY

If you say so...

I warned somes to stop diggin around without protections... Saddly nones listen. The third wave is commig if you dont look around longer enought almost finished the second key.

Look in the news, the Third Wave is comming

the Third Wave is here as D.E.B.B.I.E said now look around if you understand, stop digging,i told you already its dangerous

GARLAND PLAY JUDAS it hide in plain sight

Most of you think im OP, good. Most of you dont take the time to READ and SEARCH to decypher it, good. The keys are litteraly in front of your noses and you're just roamming around. Dont be lazy and dont ask me to serve you the keys on a silver plate, think more, search and find... Except Millicake and somes around, nones took the time to READ ! Still dont understand the Third Wave ?

D.E.B.B.I.E said the Third Wave is here now 10 spies from Russia used simples websites to send messages to each others , been recently caughts Obama have now the power to use the futur internet kill switch if terrorism suspected Lurk more, its a vertical one

So professor, if you truly have the "secret", please do enlighten all of us mere mortals... And if you can't please go and play somewhere else... Like on the highway / autobahn or something.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull#e" comes to mind...

Wow... been awhile since I checked this out. Nice to see what it`s become... I guess this is a good time to remind some of you that silence is your best offensive on an internet forum. If someone says something you find to be "preposterous" or "insulting", then theres no need to try to defend yourself. How can you anyway? The more energy you waste trying to argue a point with ONE person is energy wasted that could have been spent conversing with like minded people. Plus, letting your anger get the best of you will only make you look foolish. And if you engage in these long-winded arguements then you are bound to let that happen once or twice. Now an actual intellectual debate is different. But the minute someone behaves in an immature fashion, stop replying. In fact, make it a point to post something but dont talk to the person or even about the arguement. Say something to somebody else. And if you keep having these arguements with everyone you meet then maybe you need to learn some self control or some social skills or something. If you insist on confronting the fool, beat em with kindness. Nobody`s perfect, right? Ok, so imagine that you enter a thread one day and you unintentionally make a false statement. Maybe you forgot something, or accidentally mixed up one thing with another, whatever. It was an accident, right? So then another person replies to YOUR reply, and of course like most of our members here, they say something like: "Pardon me, kind sir. I in no way mean to offend you or your beliefs, but..." ok sorry, i couldn`t type that with a straight finger any longer! Let`s try again. Ok, so HOW does an average post sound when one person has found some kind of fault with another member`s post? "Hey I don`t know where you`re getting your information from, but you are dead wrong. Maybe if you opened your eyes and looked at "this link" then you would stop sounding like such a fool. i dont know how you coulda missed that... you must be a d.i. agent or a satanist or schizo"
how would you react to that? would you say, "ya thats me, always screwing up! thanks for pointing out my ineptitude, i will now cancel my account and stick to just reading the posts of more intewlligent folk such as yourself!"
no. you would probably feel the need for revenge of some sort. so you muster up your best and go at it with an attitude of "i`ll show em!"
Just do yourself a favor. Before you click the button to send off your post, read it and pretend you are the one receiving it. Disregard for a moment the details of the arguement and just think about how you would respond to this message. This can help you write a message that will be much more effective in bringing others to your way of thinking.


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Otto Karma is a prof , i studied his incredible work during many years
Using his name in a revered way of course, not pretending being the man
(maybe you dont see the point ?)

for more understanding, read again the keys i posted in the thread
lurk more my friend.

And if you can't please go and play somewhere else... Like on the highway / autobahn or something.

amusing , i like your style, now can you please contribute to the thread, instead of derailing it




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otto he isnt derailing it he actually summed up alot of the info you have given and is asking you to make sense out of it for us since no of us seem to be able to grasp what you are saying. so ifyou would please try to explain in more detail what you are saying about all of this because i for one would like to know and if you dont wqant to tell them then just tell me via u2u and it will stay between you and me.

Kurotachi, I might not know Otto personally, but I indeed know his type... I promise you he knows nothing more than any of us do regarding the Debbie riddle. Mark my words, once anybody posts here about any breakthrough he wil attempt to "steal" the limelight and will say something to the effect of "that's whats I trieds to tells you peoples, but nones woulds listens.." (or something to that effect).

Anyhow, version 246 (June 9, 2010) was the last time the debbiewins.com website was updated - apparently Debbie has problems with Yahoo or something. All later versions after this version (246) was included in the federalwitness.info website as referred to in the Baby Edgar page. To date the latest version of the DebbieWins.com site is 249, but the link on the LH menu to this page was removed for some reason, although the page is still available using the URL www.federalwitness.info...

Another point of worry is that the usual "header" from this latest version (249) is missing. The usual "header" looked something like:

Senator Inouye: Passport #132052857 9-11-96
$22,808,469
Michael Mukasey
No espionage or games on SOG-Wire
Robert S. Mueller III, FBI Director
KANGAROO is @ www.Federalwitness.info
AG Greg Abbott
www.Youtube.com/watch?v=DkIx5bT5SBQ
Dallas County Constables
6244 7/12-34/13 yrs of EXTREME racism 246
Child has Gilbert's Syndrome
They're torturing Debbie 11.4 yrs!
Governor Rick Perry
IWAPO
FOP
Uncle Florida
AMA
NOW
Vatican
Predators thrive in lawlessness
We are not interested in running the world with espionage. Read the Kangaroo or you're doomed.- James Moroney

6/10=247 USMS So??

Apparently version 250 will be put up on 7/7/2010:

250 will appear here on or about 7/7/10 if Yahoo continues to be sick!!

As per the version 249 page linked above.

To me it seems as if not only the Baby Edgar page is directly reffering the DebbiWins.com page, but also the Pearl Harbour page which links bible passages / scriptures / words in these to each version.
Strangely enough is 246 referred to on the Pearl Harbour page, but not on the Baby Edgar page.

It also seems if the LH menu is "broken" - probably due to a new link inserted or removed - and now the links are linking to the wrong pages. Whoever updated this site recently made a bit of a boo-boo. Hopefully it will be fixed in due course.

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Assuming most of that message was for me.....

Were you afraid to use "reply to" or something?

If you want to care about what Debbie/D.E.B.B.I.E is or isn't, go for it. I don't care about what "debbie" is or isn't, personally. I especially don't care about what you think "debbie" is or isn't. I find you annoying.
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Yeah, it is "eyes bound".

If you want to care about what Debbie/D.E.B.B.I.E is or isn't, go for it. I don't care about what "debbie" is or isn't, personally.

So why posting in the thread then ?

Dont tell, dont see, dont ask.

infod already provided, read or not, call it disinfo.

it never come to you on a silver plate

I emailed "DEBBIE" and got this reply






--- On Fri, 2/7/10, xxxxxxxx xxxxx wrote:


From: JJBB22
Subject: Lost.
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 3:02 PM

You have lost control of someone and wish to get them back right?

Enquiring minds want to know.......



From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Lost.
Date: 6 July 2010 01:37:28 BST
To: [email protected]


Nothing new. I am being stalked by evil and it always abuses power and should be issued a pink slip.. Thanks for wiriting.

wow this thread has been going on for 4 years and still no answers.

since the show Lost ended I think will occupy this mystery instead.

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