The Greatest Deception of Mankind

I have believed this for years and have seen over my life multiple and various spiritual creatures. You are correct regarding what many perceive as aliens are in fact fallen creatures whose intent is to deceive. The same can be said of those who have encounters with aliens and their abductions. These abductions occur when individuals find themselves experience sleep paralysis. They will see a hag or what many call grays. The creature that causes this sleep paralysis is medium dog size but reptilian looking in form. Sort of like a large lizard with red eyes and short stout tail. It wraps itself around the head of the affected and the person goes into a state where one is awake and can see the surroundings, unable to speak but still able to sense that something alien is approaching them.

Firstly, I would like to say: "I can't right very well, so please forgive me?"

With everything that I am, and also through my recent studies on this subject, absolutely agree with 1nL1ghtened!

I have had 2 different encounters, (that i rememeber), but the greatest thing I remember, was this feeling of utter dread! It was beyond anything I have ever felt before! So I can relate to this intence feeling bigtime!

Anyway, about 2 weeks ago, after being almost obsessed with studying UFO's, reports, and cover ups. I just breatherd out and said, "ITS I LIE!", although I knew it was also very real! I didin't understand this feeling at all, but i knew it was about incredible deception!

Once I knew this deception, and whom was deceiving, all I can say is, "I was attacked, by a presence through the night, that even tried to stop me crying out the word, "Jesus"! I remember stuttering the "J", trying to force His name out! I eventuallly could, and when I did, it was gone!
This is the truth, the best I can explain it, and I also care not for acceptance at all, except from Christ that is!

What got me more than anything was: "The simple belief in these entities, (demons), was dangerous in itself!"

It really is the greatest deception ever!

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The reason why they kept you from saying "Jesus" is because they hate Jesus. If you say that name, they run.

Let me first make a disclaimer that I was not raised Christian, nor have I made any study of the religion, so I could be entirely wrong, but:

From what I understand, I imagine Satan to be an egotistical so-and-so, a real dastard of an anti-god. If such a one had the means to create such powerful minions, would he not advertise it at every available opportunity?

When people have visitations from angels, or loving spirits, they seem to be sure that what they are seeing came directly from their god.

I guess my point is that I'm just not sure why a devil would mince around trying to convince people of life on other planets. Why not just convince them of the reality of demons and scare the lights out of them?

That being said, I still like your idea, OP, of a sort of meat-puppet inhabited by otherworldly beings. But that also begs the question: Why make yourself such an odd-looking avatar? Wouldn't a frightening devil-costume or even a normal human being (a la the gods of old) be more effective?

Originally posted by windwaker
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The reason why they kept you from saying "Jesus" is because they hate Jesus. If you say that name, they run.

As they did! I knew this already, but what amazed me, and never would of believed it possible to happan, was they were trying to stop me saying the name: "Jesus", and I HAD TO FIGHT! Thats what amazed me, "I had to fight, to say His name"

Im still amazed about that!

Originally posted by LovelyDoom
Let me first make a disclaimer that I was not raised Christian, nor have I made any study of the religion, so I could be entirely wrong, but:

From what I understand, I imagine Satan to be an egotistical so-and-so, a real dastard of an anti-god. If such a one had the means to create such powerful minions, would he not advertise it at every available opportunity?

When people have visitations from angels, or loving spirits, they seem to be sure that what they are seeing came directly from their god.

I guess my point is that I'm just not sure why a devil would mince around trying to convince people of life on other planets. Why not just convince them of the reality of demons and scare the lights out of them?

That being said, I still like your idea, OP, of a sort of meat-puppet inhabited by otherworldly beings. But that also begs the question: Why make yourself such an odd-looking avatar? Wouldn't a frightening devil-costume or even a normal human being (a la the gods of old) be more effective?

Think about this!
Jesus first words of the end times was, "Don't be deceived" , and He was talking to believers! To me, that means the deception is gonna be incredible!

Scripture also says: Satan will appear as an angel of light! So acting, and showing the Spiritual truth, and Love, will be the deception!

The problem is, what spirit will you choose?

reply to post by 1nL1ghtened


Thanks for that wonderful post, star and flag from me.

Your description of the feelings you experienced is very accurate in my opinion, and shows discernment on you part.

I too like you believe that most (not all) of these beings are demons in disguise, I have like you spent some years pondering on the subject from my personal Christian view.

But this doesn`t mean that I consider those who are not demons to be positive or heavenly, I believe that there are groups of entities that do not necessarily are in a league with the old serpent, but are not on the God of Israel`s side either.

There is one point that we disagree on, I believe there is life on other planets, demons or not, I don`t know, but there is just to many circumstantial evidence that corroborates that we are not alone on our universe, not even in our solar system.

Too many questions, so few answers...

Thanks again for your post.

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Nice thread 1nL1, I proposed the theory of Aliens possibly being the very biblical demons we've been taught as Christians to fear to my Wife and Mother-in-law a few months back. Their wheels were turning for sure contemplating the consequences of this one. But, I also went further theorizing that God's Angels may also come to us as Alien's. I mean what else would we call a winged humanoid flying around brandishing a big light saber ya know? I share your interest in this idea, well done.

The Undertaker

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It is no coincidence that many are realizing this fact that was revealed in this thread. The strong delusion will not bind those who are ready to hear the truth and the very elect will not be deceived. Coming is something I posted anonymously before registering here. When it appears read it. It contains info about this subject that will bring light on what many have experienced with these creatures.

This whole demons coming as aliens being the grand deception is pure BS. if it was such a great deception howcome you know about the great deception before the actual "deception" happened. If it was such a great deception it would take great wisdom and insight such as a prophet would have figure out what is was and to warn the world about said deception. Certainly he wouldn't be ranting on internet forums. more like being featured on MSM as a terrorist.

I do not believe that the devil is stupid enough to be figured out
by arrogant and foolish christians who know nothing about the holy scriptures.

reply to post by 1nL1ghtened


To this I'd say the following:


In all of this did you ask the question "Are aliens actually posing as Gods?"

Should the theories involving ancient religions and current dominant religions prove true, should we not be asking this question as well?

You tell us we are somehow being lied to about a subject that we actually know little about, no matter how many radar detections, witness testimony, video, and abduction accounts, their just isn't enough for us to state "Hey! We know what's going on!" and feel comfortable in the "knowledge" that we have it right this time...How many times has that proven true?

I believe in Aliens. I know nothing about them, but I've done alot of research, some of which includes many Holy texts, government documents, public news media accounts, tapes, transcripts, archives, and books, and I still don't know a damned thing about them. But I know they are there.

Do they have some sort of holy or unholy responsibility to us? Probably not.

We've managed on our own this far we don't need someone to do it for us. And if we destroy ourselves? So what. If we couldn't be responsible enough to settle for having a future then we don't deserve one. Revelation tell us of what I believe is going on in the world right now. Not in the sense that it is the word of God, but the word of some being that has a little bit of existential experience. This being, call it god or what have you said this:

"Hey guys...Yeah listen...I think maybe you guys should be nice to each other, you know...Be just and true and all that jazz"...(Verbatim)
Instead we are paving a road to hell we are doomed to walk down. You're right on one point, we haven't been good stewards of this Earth. And whether one believes in god or not this place IS holy. And we are alive and that in and of itself should strike humanity with the sense that we are in fact witnesses to a real miracle...Every day.


My point is, whether it is God or aliens, how this all pans out depends entirely on us and the choices we make. Revelation isn't a prophesy, it is a warning. A warning that a sentient civilization must do all it can to nurture it's existence, or we get hell on Earth..


When you hear of wars, and rumors of wars...
Nuclear weapons are fire and brimstone.
Satan is represented as a snake right?

What is the lowest form of thought in the human brain? Reptilian..Not like alien reptilian, but like biologically reptilian. The part of us that causes us to murder, and be so territorial...That was the evil we were warned against, we have to use the top two layers more...Otherwise, what was this gift for anyway?

At that point, does it really matter who's in control?

I think not.


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We were genetically manipulated so that we could evolve to the nexus and become homo novus.

Think not for a moment that in the vast expanse of the universe there are no other life forms similar to Earth humans. The odds of planet Earth being the only planet harboring life and/or human-like beings is astronomically remote (no pun intended).

And it could be said there is very little chance that ET life would be exactly like us taking into account the likelihood of environmental and atmospheric variances, concentration of gases, differences in gravity, and so on. Even slight variations would have profound effects on the life that evolved in other solar systems.

What about the fact that it is our goodness, not our evil that scares us the most? It is much easier for us to act badly than it is to be good.

What if the deception was that all the good things were actually physical and had been passed off as being non-material in the first place?

When I read the bible I see the situation a bit different. In fact, it even says that Satan will war with god. But Satan and the demons have already been cast down to earth have they not? It says the nephilum still roam the earth to the day the bible is written.

What if we have been getting technologically advanced for the purpose of fighting ET's? Does the bible not mention there will be wars and rumors of wars? We have wars and we have rumors of war in space don't we?

Doesn't the anti-christ come about through our own governments and form a 1 world government? What does satan want? To be as god right? Wants to know everything you do(all knowing), wants to be the one who passes judgement, speaks all languages of the earth. I ask you, is there not an entity that fits this description on earth now? Do we not have those who are the bearers of false promises now?

But you can't really be certain. I can easily see how you could be right, and I can see how my scenario can be right and many others as well. In fact when I considered everything I came to the conclusion that I couldn't trust anything based on the material alone. It's too easy to fake image and appear to be a certain way(politicians). IMO what you need to be able to do is understand the philosophy and base your decisions off that. And I find that helps much further than just this topic alone.

I think to understand the philosophy is the same as understanding a math equation. And to focus on the images rather than the philosophy is the same as looking at the specific numbers in the result of the equation rather than the variables. If you understand the philosophy then you are understanding the variables and understand that any image can be placed in that equation but it's the actions of carrying out the equation(philosophy) that decide the end result on what is good and what is evil. 3-1 = 1 and 4-2 = 2 are different numbers/image, but both follow the same equation.

Hope that makes sense. All in all, one of my biggest amazements of the bible is how well it fits today. And I do believe that is because it follows on philosophy deeply.

So what are the implications of this post to the people whose religion is not Christianity?

Originally posted by mandrake
So what are the implications of this post to the people whose religion is not Christianity?

None at all!

Originally posted by mandrake
So what are the implications of this post to the people whose religion is not Christianity?

Well I(If you're referring to me), was responding in kind to a topic that is routed in nearly every religion. Using Christianity as a basis. Even if the Bible isn't your flavor, the implications are the same.

After all these years, and the real conspiracy portrayed about UFO's and "Aliens", except for deep world powers knowing (elite), must also scream a certain truth to you? lol

Why, after all this time, (50, 60 years) have not the "aliens", just come to us, and shown what they portray, without any dought?

C'mon? 50 - 60 years, they only went to the world powers?

Wonder why!

Wonder why they never showed their face to us in a real way?

It's posts like this that I finally joined after 5-6 years of reading.

You're typing not talking, so why the need of constant "..." for a pause, or affect?

Now if you were talking to someone I can understand you'd be stopping to recollect, however you're posting something apprently important and you jumble the whole thing up rather than get the point across for readers.
In the long run; leaving me a skeptic of your story.

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I was so happy to see your thread. I have believed for some time that aliens could indeed be the "great deception" refered to in the Bible relating to the End Times. We are given many signs in scripture which can be used to decern good and evil, so that we may put the spirits to trial. I have noted in some posts by those who have observed even the craft as being a part of the same "fabric" as the beings in them. I find this currious and it makes you wonder of the nature of such entities. I have no proof to offer that what you have postulated here is fact. I just feel it to be so in my spirit when compared to what I have learned from scripture and what I have learned of these beings. I can think of no other story in the news today that could possibly be a greater deception than the so-called disclosure that aliens are here to help us become enlightened as to our true nature and set us on a new path. Many signs and wonders in the sky would reinforce this great deception so that if were posible, even the very elect would be deceived. What a grand victory for the evil one should this come to pass. People need to approach this disclosure with great caution and prayerful reflection giving all the Devine descernment we can muster to sort truth from deceit.

Originally posted by JBGrimm
It's posts like this that I finally joined after 5-6 years of reading.

You're typing not talking, so why the need of constant "..." for a pause, or affect?

Now if you were talking to someone I can understand you'd be stopping to recollect, however you're posting something apprently important and you jumble the whole thing up rather than get the point across for readers.
In the long run; leaving me a skeptic of your story.

Welcome my friend!