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Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

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posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 10:04 AM
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Russia to sign deals with Georgia separatists


MOSCOW (AP) — President Dmitry Medvedev says Russia will follow the recognition of Georgia's breakaway provinces with agreements on economic and military aid.

Medvedev says Russia is preparing to sign deals with Abkhazia and South Ossetia that would spell out Moscow's obligations on providing assistance to the two regions.

He said in Sunday's televised remarks that the agreements will lay the basis for "allied" relations with Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Medvedev doesn't say when the documents will be signed but Russian news reports say it could happen in the next few days.

Medvedev's decision Tuesday to recognize South Ossetia and Abkhazia as independent has drawn criticism from the West, which urged Moscow to recognize Georgia's territorial integrity.

(AP)



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 11:13 AM
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Putin reminds EU of Russia's Pacific oil pipeline


MOSCOW (Reuters) - Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Sunday that Russia's first oil pipeline to Asia must be completed without delay, underlining Russia's energy clout just hours before European Union leaders meet to discuss Georgia.

Russian state-owned news agency RIA said Putin had signed a government order "on speeding the building of phases of the Eastern Siberia - Pacific Ocean (pipeline) and not allowing delays," while on a visit to the Far East.

He was speaking in Kozmino, a giant oil terminal being built on the Pacific coast to take the oil from the pipeline, which is being built by Transneft.

(Reuters)



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 11:47 AM
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Breaking:

Russia warns will respond to "aggression"


* Russia says wants to develop ties with West

* Russia's Medvedev: we can deploy sanctions if needed

* Britain's Brown demands review of EU-Russia ties

* Bush and Medvedev lobby Berlusconi on summit eve

By Christian Lowe

MOSCOW, Aug 31 (Reuters) - Russia does not want confrontation with the West but will hit back if attacked, Kremlin leader Dmitry Medvedev said on Sunday, a day before EU leaders meet to draft a response to Moscow's actions in Georgia.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown on Sunday said he would press fellow European Union leaders to review ties to Russia in retaliation for Moscow's decision to sent troops to Georgia and recognise two Georgian breakaway regions.



EUROPEAN UNION MUST NOT "GIVE UP" IN DISPUTE WITH RUSSIA OVER GEORGIAN REBEL REGIONS - SAAKASHVILI


(Source: AlertNet)



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 11:51 AM
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Medvedev


"Russia does not want confrontation with any country. Russia does not plan to isolate itself. Russia will develop, as far as possible, its relations with Europe, with the United States of America, and with other countries," Medvedev said in an interview with Russia's three main television stations.

But he added: "Everyone should understand that if someone launches an aggressive sortie, he will receive a response." He said Russian law allowed the Kremlin to impose sanctions on other states, though it preferred not to go down that path.

Defying Western condemnation of his decision to recognise Georgia's breakaway Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent, Medvedev said that move was "irrevocable."

He also said there were parts of the globe where Russia had "privileged interests" -- a clear warning that the Kremlin will not accept NATO expansion into Russia's traditional sphere of influence.

(AlertNet)



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 04:45 PM
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Russia announces ‘spheres of interest’


Russia’s president Dmitry Medvedev on Sunday announced Moscow’s intention to preserve geographical spheres “of privileged interest” on or near its borders as part of a five point foreign policy statement in a television interview.

The announcement, in the wake of the recent conflict in Georgia, is likely to raise the political temperature in neighbouring states, especially those with significant Russian minorities, as they try to gauge Russia’s appetite for future conflicts in the region.

He said that Russia would defend “the life and dignity” of Russian citizens “no matter where they are located”. He was referring to Russia’s intervention in Georgia with the declared aim of defending Russian citizens in South Ossetia against Georgian forces.

Mr Medvedev announced that Russia would provide aid – including military help – to the enclaves of South Ossetian and Abkhazia.

In the announcing his five-point foreign policy, he emphasised Russia’s wish to avoid confrontation or international isolation as the result of the recent conflict, which has been widely criticised in the west. “Russia does not intend to isolate itself. We will develop, as much as possible, our friendly relations with Europe and the United States, and other nations of the world”

He also focused on a commitment to international law, and again expressed Moscow’s now familiar antipathy to a “unipolar” world dominated by Washington, saying “this type of world is unstable and threatens conflict”.

Mr Medvedev’s announcement that Russia has “regions of priviledged interest” is likely to be greeted with concern in the west, where it might be interpreted as the announcement that Moscow has imperial ambitions in the former Soviet Union. It is also likely to resonate in Crimea, the province of Ukraine that is dominated by ethnic Russians, ethnically Russian northern Kazakhstan, and Baltic states with large Russian minorities.

"Russia, like other countries in the world, has regions in which it has privileged interests” said Mr Medvedev. “In these regions are located countries which have friendly relations…Russia will work attentively in these regions" he said, adding these "privileged" regions included states bordering Russia, but not only those.

(Financial Times)



posted on Aug, 31 2008 @ 05:24 PM
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There are breaking news coming from Ingushetia (near Georgia and Chechnya) about the opposition party wanting to separate from Russia. One of its senior members and owner of the banned Ingush website was murdered earlier today under questionable circustances.

There are uncofirmed reports of of a possible separatist struggle and coup attempt on the way.

More can be found in a new thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...'



This is exactly why I did not want Russia to rush with recognizing S Ossetia and Abkhazia independence. The echo could ring throughout the Caucasus.

There has been increased violance in Russia's Caucasus region since the war began. Two police officers were shot in Kabardino Balkaria, and there are reports on some attacks on local militia in Chechnya, Ingushetia, and Krasnodar. Several civilians have also been murdered.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 01:01 AM
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under questionable circustances


From what I've read, he was arrested and put in a policecar, where he was shot through the head. I only just read it on a German site.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 01:37 AM
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BREAKING:

Russian Foreign Minister says continued Western support of Georgian leadership is a "mistake of historic proportions."

- Sky TV



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-
reply to post by maloy
 




under questionable circustances


From what I've read, he was arrested and put in a policecar, where he was shot through the head. I only just read it on a German site.


I read from Sky News that the subject "reached" for a police weapon. Likely. They can say anything.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by chips
BREAKING:

Russian Foreign Minister says continued Western support of Georgian leadership is a "mistake of historic proportions."

- Sky TV


Yeah, check Paul Craig Roberts on the third hour (I think) of Alex Jones' radio show.

The refeed will kick in.

www.infowars.com...

He says, thanks to the neocons, that we are heading straight for nuclear war.

[edit on 1-9-2008 by pluckynoonez]



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 01:44 AM
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He says, thanks to the neocons, that we are heading straight to nuclear war.


No - that isn't the case at all.

In fact, you should learn more as to why Russia is really doing this. It has to do with negating US plans for a New World Order.

Obama's lead foreign policy advisor (also heads the Council of Foreign Relations), a Democrat, wrote the book on the NWO called "The Grand Chessboard". It is a blueprint for achieving NWO objectives.



"In that context, how America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. Eurasia is the globe's largest continent and is geopolitically axial. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 60 per cent of the world's GNP and about three-fourths of the world's known energy resources." (p.31)

“It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." (p.35)

"Two basic steps are thus required: first, to identify the geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the power to cause a potentially important shift in the international distribution of power and to decipher the central external goals of their respective political elites and the likely consequences of their seeking to attain them;... second, to formulate specific U.S. policies to offset, co-opt, and/or control the above..." (p. 40)

"...To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." (p.40)

"Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out of Eurasia, thereby threatening America's status as a global power." (p.55)

"Uzbekistan, nationally the most vital and the most populous of the central Asian states, represents the major obstacle to any renewed Russian control over the region. Its independence is critical to the survival of the other Central Asian states, and it is the least vulnerable to Russian pressures." (p. 121)

[Referring to an area he calls the "Eurasian Balkans" and a 1997 map in which he has circled the exact location of the current conflict - describing it as the central region of pending conflict for world dominance] "Moreover, they [the Central Asian Republics] are of importance from the standpoint of security and historical ambitions to at least three of their most immediate and more powerful neighbors, namely Russia, Turkey and Iran, with China also signaling an increasing political interest in the region. But the Eurasian Balkans are infinitely more important as a potential economic prize: an enormous concentration of natural gas and oil reserves is located in the region, in addition to important minerals, including gold." (p.124)

"The world's energy consumption is bound to vastly increase over the next two or three decades. Estimates by the U.S. Department of energy anticipate that world demand will rise by more than 50 percent between 1993 and 2015, with the most significant increase in consumption occurring in the Far East. The momentum of Asia's economic development is already generating massive pressures for the exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, or the North Sea." (p.125)

"Uzbekistan is, in fact, the prime candidate for regional leadership in Central Asia." (p.130)

"Once pipelines to the area have been developed, Turkmenistan's truly vast natural gas reserves augur a prosperous future for the country's people.” (p.132)


Source



[edit on 1-9-2008 by jetxnet]



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 01:45 AM
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Cheers for the link, Plucky.

I'll have a listen to that soon.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 01:47 AM
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Do you know who Paul Craig Roberts is? His ethos as a scholar and critic of American foreign policy is unsinkable.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 01:53 AM
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Do you know who Paul Craig Roberts is? His ethos as a scholar and critic of American foreign policy is unsinkable


Plucky, i'm not that impressionable and know that Paul Craig Roberts is a flaming Liberal that only attacks the "NeoCons".

His whole life is this, attacking Republicans.

Now, if you really want to know what's happening and why Russia recently stated that the Georgian conflict was "balancing the New World Order", then read my post above.



[edit on 1-9-2008 by jetxnet]



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 01:56 AM
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Okay, I will read it.

But what I do not understand is how PCRs can be a liberal his whole life, attack Republicans, and also be the father of Reaganomics.

I will read your post.



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 02:05 AM
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Thanks - PCRs is though .. he writes for NewsMax and every single article is attacking the Republicans. Reagen used to be a Democrat but then changed to Republican.

The US plans for New World Order is intiated in large part by the Council of Foreign Relations.

Russia is aware of the US plans to limit Russian control by "buffering" the former Russian Republics into NATO affiliated states.

It's why when Obama was speaking about the NWO in Germany, Russia stated they would send Nuclear bombers to Cuba - right at the very time.l

NWO is very touchy for Russia as they do not want to answer to the US in any way shape or form.

The goal of NWO is to contain Russia and China by cutting off their Oil supplies if necessary. China is outsmarting the US and Russia is using force to send a message.

WWIII will happen because of NWO objectives by either side.


[edit on 1-9-2008 by jetxnet]



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 02:08 AM
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Russia/Georgia News and Updates!!!!

Take the political banter to a politics thread

Semper



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by semperfortis
Russia/Georgia News and Updates!!!!

Take the political banter to a politics thread

Semper


mmm...we are discussing two scholars who are discussing this topic, how is that political banter, eh?



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 02:18 AM
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For those that did not get it the first time...

This is the topic..

Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

Not Neocons, Libs, Party affiliation or Reaganomics...

Off Topic posts that do not address "News and Updates" will be removed..

Semper



posted on Sep, 1 2008 @ 02:36 AM
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BREAKING:

Russian Foreign Minister calls for an arms embargo on Georgia until a new government is in place.

- Sky TV



Woah.




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