Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

i also have a question - IF the russians are bombing the BTC pipeline as georgia have claimed - whay are they also not bombing the Baku-Suspa pipeline ?

Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-
Georgia asks NATO about aid, alliance is assembled to the special-session

Moscow. On August 12. INTERFAX.RU - NATO will conduct on Tuesday the special-session, on which it will examine the request of Georgia about the assignment to military aid.


“MID of Georgia expresses its respect for the accredited in Georgia friendly countries and international organizations and before face of the threat of the complete occupation of the country it requests about the urgent military aid in the opposition of the straight and not hidden aggression of Russia”, is said in the note, directed on Monday states NATO.


When is this nato meeting?
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The secretary of MID Lithuania [Zhigimantas] Of [pavilenis] reported BY BNS that, “since simultaneously the same note of Georgia obtained all NATO alliance countries and the headquarters of NATO, this request will be examined at the special session, called for Georgia”.


“Lithuania and largest countries of alliance will raise a question about the joint answer to this demand of Georgia, since we are the part of NATO, and security concerns are solved together. Lithuania will ask to positively consider this request of Georgia; however, what will be general result - let us see after session”, said [Pavilenis].


It can be more according to the representative of MID, such sessions. “This can be only beginning”, said [Zh].[Pavilenis].

(inte rfax.ru)

reply to post by Harlequin


Yeah. This might seem a bit conspiratorial (hey, this is ATS, after all), but do you think Russia might provoke Georgia - or at least report that Georgia continues to fight during the 'ceasefire' - so they can keep this going and possibly advance to some other positions? It wouldn't surprise me if Georgia had done that, too; every time it looked like coming to a halt yesterday, the Georgian government kept reporting that people were dying and that stuff was being blown up all over the place - probably to get the attention of the U.S. and NATO.

Hmm.

When is this nato meeting taking place?
What time?

reply to post by Truther


According to a NATO spokesperson, it will be today in the afternoon. No time is known yet, as far as I know.

reply to post by chips


Most likely yes
Specially when they hold a special NATO meeting

Originally posted by -Rugged Shark-
Russian TV reporter resigns after station cancels his Georgian broadcasts

Russians appear to be getting only one side of the story of the conflict in Georgia. According to a Moscow Times article, Russian television is showing the misery left by the Georgian assault in South Ossetia, but few, if any, reports mention Russia's bombing of Georgia.

After William Dunbar, a correspondent for the English-language state channel Russia Today, mentioned the bombing in a report on Saturday, his scheduled reports later that day were cancelled by the station. He said: "I felt that I had no choice but to resign."

(more)

I've been watching Russia Today since August 8th when Saakashvili launched his surprise attack. Their reporting has been very objective which is why the Georgian regime banned all Russian TV and barred Russian domain names. Pretty tough to report from there if the regime doesn't let you into the country !

On the other hand, CNN and especially the abysmal BBC have really disgraced themselves. They seem to think that this is 1990 and that their double standards will go unnoticed and that they can continue to sell the Orwellian nonsense that worked so well during the Yugoslav civil war.

Bitterness at RT is kinda predictable though. They've gotten good ratings during the last week.

reply to post by Harlequin


Why bomb the Baku-Supsa, if you control the port that it ends at?

Russian troops enter Georgian port- Georgian PM

Georgia: Russians close off strategic Georgian port

[edit on 12-8-2008 by Regenmacher]

Originally posted by Truther
When is this nato meeting taking place?
What time?

NATO meeting cancelled:

www.alertnet.org...

Few pages back.

@ blablablaxyz:

you do realize that Russia kind of instigated this . . .



@ no one in particular:

WTH does the US need forgiveness?

[edit on 12/8/2008 by xxpigxx]

reply to post by mattguy404


He meant with Georgia and NATO not Russia-NATO

reply to post by mattguy404


No, the meeting requested by Russia is prosponed at this stage, not cancelled. The Meeting requested by Georgia is this afternoon.

Originally posted by Rentor
reply to post by mattguy404

 

He meant with Georgia and NATO not Russia-NATO

Oh thaks! I've completely lost track

reply to post by mattguy404


Don't worry i lost track myself through these like 155pages.
Man i cant believe iv been here since page 2

[edit on 12-8-2008 by Rentor]

reply to post by blablablaxyz

On the other hand, CNN and especially the abysmal BBC have really disgraced themselves. They seem to think that this is 1990 and that their double standards will go unnoticed and that they can continue to sell the Orwellian nonsense that worked so well during the Yugoslav civil war.

Not so. It is simply that western channels reflect a western stance. Similarly Russian channels reflect a Russian stance.

When I listen to Putin spouting on about the Georgian forces pushing civilians into buildings then burning them down I shake my head at the blatent attempt to demonize the enemy in the eyes of the Russian people. However I don't accuse the Russian media of disgracing themselves for being inclined to whip up such feelings. After all their viewers have sons and relatives involved in the fighting.

I've also been monitoring Russia Today as well as RTR, etc. They have a pretty noticeable bias towards the Russian position, in fact, and it doesn't surprise me that the reporter in question got into trouble.

Originally posted by xxpigxx
@ blablablaxyz:

you do realize that Russia kind of instigated this . . .

yeah cause russia PAID georgia to go bomb South Ossetia and kill all those people and devestate a city.... all before russian troops rolled in to defend there citizens

reply to post by Harlequin


Ya its a classic move,make themselves look like the HERO man don't you watch Hollywood movies

[edit on 12-8-2008 by Rentor]

reply to post by Harlequin


Many people appear to be accepting the argument that Georgia provoked all this.

But

1) They went into part of their own territory to deal with separatist militias that have been fighting the government for years.

2) There are claims that Russian 'peacekeepers'(!) deliberately provoked a Georgian response on a local scale, which ignited the current crisis

3) Such a move by the 'peacekeepers' fits rather snugly with the widely-held belief that Russian forces have been massing in and around this area for months

4) Russia has the most to gain from conflict: reassertion of their regional power and an opportunity to slap the US in the face as a result of its planned missile defense system deployment.

Do you really think Georgia would deliberately provoke Russia into intervening? There would be no surer way of guaranteeing that Georgia would lose South Ossetia - which has now happened.

reply to post by Regenmacher



Georgian oil ports Batumi, Supsa partly operating-shipper

"Poti is not operating at all. Technically it is OK to start but the stevedores don't feel safe enough."

[edit on 12/8/08 by Harlequin]

reply to post by pause4thought

Do you really think Georgia would deliberately provoke Russia into intervening? There would be no surer way of guaranteeing that Georgia would lose South Ossetia - which has now happened

unless georgia believed or even had assurances the usa would come to its aid and bomb russia for them....

[edit on 12/8/08 by Harlequin]