Russia/Georgia Situation News & Updates

reply to post by AlBeMet


does that iraqi army officer now work for georgia?

`georgian army is winning in south ossetia and those are not russian tanks behind me`

I wouldn't be surprised if they continue the assault until Saakashvili is removed, by the people or by force.

Exactly. I think we both know what the Russians might do next.

Mr. Saakashvili, however, is much more difficult to predict...

This is a video (an english translation kicks in if you keep listening) of Putin contrasting the American stance toward Iraq to the American stance toward Georgia. www.youtube.com...

Oh fantastic, let's see what the Iranian press is saying...

US lighting Mideast powder keg?

DEBKAfiles-- an Israeli web site with alleged close links with the regime's military and intelligence sources-- claimed that the USS Theodore Roosevelt, the USS Ronald Reagan and the USS Iwo Jima are sailing towards the Persian Gulf to reinforce the US strike forces deployed to the region.

The report said the expedition could be linked to a conflict between Russia and Georgia over the breakaway region of South Ossetia.

www.presstv.com...

Things that make you go 'hmm'.




[edit on 11-8-2008 by mattguy404]

I just heard on Russian news that Putin has condemned the US for aiding in the transport of 2000 Georgian troops from Iran.

Keep an eye on Ukraine in the next 12 to 16hrs . Bad times these are

reply to post by all2human


Agreed. Ukraine, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania...this is the area to watch right now. Do they become involved? Doubtful, but they've been on the receiving end of Russia's bullying in recent years and seem none too pleased about the situation.

Its also notable that Russia appears to have issued a thinly veiled threat to these nations just today:

Article

Take this for what it's worth, as it's from the Georgian Interior Ministry. I know others have said that Russia also confirms this, but I have yet to read it with my own two eyes so I have to remain skeptical. Still, here's what what I just read says about the incursion from Abkhazia.

TBILISI, Georgia (AP) -- Georgia's Defense Ministry says Russian armored vehicles seized a military base in western Georgia near a second breakaway province.

The ministry's spokeswoman, Nana Intskerveli, says Russian armored vehicles on Monday rolled into a Georgia military base in the town of Senaki, about 20 miles inland from the Black Sea port of Poti. The statement appears to indicate that Russian troops have invaded into Georgia proper from the separatist province of Abkhazia while most of the Georgian military forces are locked up in fighting around another breakaway region of South Ossetia.

Source

reply to post by vor78


Oh Shi...

Alright, there is now an online link in which Russia itself confirms that they have invaded Georgia from Abkhazia.

Click Here.

This is quite worrying.

Check this out: remember the Georgian Secret Service personnel that Russia said it had captured and detained?

(Rough translation via Yahoo):

FSG: Georgian Saboteurs

According to the information of head the FSB, the colleagues of department detained nine agents of the Georgian intelligence agencies, which prepared acts of terror in the territory of the country

(Interfax)

According to the Russians, they were preparing 'acts of terror.'

BREAKING - SKY/REUTERS: Georgian helicopters launch assault on South Ossetian capital.

reply to post by mattguy404


I was just about to post it my self but you are on the ball





I have a bad feeling about this Thankgod i live down under

reply to post by vor78



Vor, good find. Terrifying, but good. I would say that this is not even a veiled threat. It was outright. Now we don't know WHAT the Russian "retaliation" for the Baltic stance will be, economic or military but with the way things are going down in Georgia right now I fear it won't be economic.

Obs out

Originally posted by AceWombat04
Alright, there is now an online link in which Russia itself confirms that they have invaded Georgia from Abkhazia.

Click Here.

This is quite worrying.

I heard on Russian news 3 hours ago that , Russian special forces + 9000 VDV troops have been mobilized from Abkhazia into Georgia , + 320 armored vehicles , so it is getting serious very serious .



[edit on 11-8-2008 by Russian Boy]

reply to post by vor78


Hi
I'm from estonia(new here since the whole thing started) 4days constant refreshing this thread.Heres a littel blackflash what happened last year


Last April, when the Estonian government ordered it to be moved from a central square in the capital Tallinn to a military cemetery, protests by local Russians degenerated into riots.

Russia accused Estonia of blasphemy and threatened "serious measures" in response.

What followed was a partial Russian trade blockade of Estonia and - far more chilling - an extraordinary cyber-attack.
news.bbc.co.uk...

On the attack itself

Estonia hit by 'Moscow cyber war'
...."In the 21st century it's not just about tanks and artillery," Nato spokesman James Appathurai told BBC News.
news.bbc.co.uk...

Russia cuts S. Ossetia casualty conflict figures

10:17 AM EDT
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia on Monday reduced the estimated number of victims killed in Georgia's breakaway region of South Ossetia to 1,600 civilians while human rights groups said they were concerned by inadequate data on victims

Source

UK - Gordon Brown: There is no justification for continued Russian military action in Georgia - clear responsibility on Russian government to bring conflict to an end. (SKY)

[edit on 11-8-2008 by chips]

Originally posted by Randy Echo
French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said Georgia's President Mikheil Saakashvili had accepted nearly all of a European Union peace plan during meetings in Tsibili.

The European plan calls for a ceasefire, medical help for victims, controlled withdrawals of troops on both sides and eventual political talks.

This is a farce. If the plans calls for Russian withdrawal from Ossetia, it's a non-starter. The official, as well as popular, position of the Russians is that Georgia had perpetrated genocide against Russian citizens there, and pulling back is politically untenable (and I think would prove disasterous for Ossetia).

The French and the Finnish know about this. So their trip to Moscow is like circus.



[edit on 11-8-2008 by buddhasystem]

What i find weird is that no former USSR state said something pro-Russian about this conflict, some are sort of allies of Russia (Belorussia , probably are others) and still are silent on this Georgia-Russia thing.
Fear of being next? Ukraine, Baltic states are anti-Russian and they express their position accordingly. Why Russia in what it presents as peace-keeping effort against Georgian aggressor (last part is correct) has no support from other ex-USSR countries?
Always is possibility that i do not see it, feeding on western media.

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


other than france and the uk - just about everyone in europe is silent on the matter