Horror as bus passenger beheaded

reply to post by TheRepublic


We'll see... time will tell.


It gets even stranger...

"We have word from people on the scene . . . that when the killer was alone with the body . . . that there may have been some small acts of cannibalism on the body," Oliver said.

Oliver said that police have not confirmed that, but have not denied it either.

winnipeg.ctv.ca...

The killer was a cold-blooded psychopath, moving like a robot and totally calm, even taunting those who held the bus doors shut before going back to commit indignities to the body.

guys like this confuse me...
i mean not that hes bat poop crazy that i understand, there have always been crazies. but back in the good old days the people would have grabbed the dude, gotten some rope and strung him high. i mean if a busload of people see you cut someones head off right in front of them do we really need a trial?

maybe the whole world is just crazy.

I can't imagine the scene that unfolded in front of these passengers eyes, I hate to say it but I always carry my collapsible baton with me because when or if I happen to get attacked, my attacker will be eating their friggin teeth. I used to use the bus for almost 4 years travelling to Calgary for work on a seismac crew. Anything can and does happen anywhere and at any time. I've also been enrolled in ninjutsu for about a year now as well, so I'm able to protect myself and hopefully others if something does happen. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family of this horrible tragedy.

reply to post by ShadowWarrior32


the video said that some of the passengers were puking after Crazy McWacko tossed the head out the window.

thats always fun.
why go watch saw 3 when you can just ride greyhound?

reply to post by TheRepublic


Yeah, we need a trial... lynch mobs went out awhile ago and I want to understand what brought this on. Was it bad meds, a sociopath having some gory fantasy played out or what?



Anyways, you may be right and I may be wrong;

Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as about six feet tall, 200 pounds, possibly Asian or aboriginal, bald and wearing sunglasses. He seemed oblivious to others when the stabbing occurred, said Caton, adding he was struck by how calm the man was.

www.canada.com...

I know that there are competing NA drug gangs in Canada and that this could be related.

But the thing that confuses me with this case is that they didn't seem to know each other.

The other thing that makes me believe it was premeditated is that he moved from the front of the bus to the back where the victim was sitting with his head against the window, apparently sleeping.

Totally unprovoked.

grammar edit



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I've got a pretty strong stomach, but what happened on that bus....... that would give me nightmares till I die, and I'd be pukin my guts out too.

reply to post by masqua


true the fact that he was smoking a cig first (maybe tryin to fight the craziness) and then went to sit next to the kid makes me think this guy was just wigging out. it really does sound like the kind of crap people on seretonin reuptake inhibators do.

yeah so i cant smoke weed legally because ill want to eat a bunch of cheese poofs, but i can take some legal prescription meds that will make me cut peoples heads off and chuck infants off of highway overpasses.

ahh what a wonderful world!

If it turns out the killer was on long-term meds and cut back, this story will be buried quicker than Harpers latest political gaffe.

Can't have Big Pharma responsible.

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hahah.

maybe we should start a psychic hotline? wasnt that university shooting in illinois a result of this same stuff? as soon as people try and get off of the stuff they go bananas. i think the victims of crimes caused by big pharma zombies should get to sue big pharma. that might fix things quick!

reply to post by Crakeur
AMEN.. how the heck can they state the the ppl aboard actly swiftly?? Maybe tyo save their own hides and flea.. but no one stepped up to help..

Originally posted by SugarJ
.. but no one stepped up to help..

Again I ask, if you were on that bus, unarmed, and witnessed someone being stabbed by a crazed lunatic would YOU step in and try to help?

I'll be honest, HELL NO!

After the fact we can say these things because we were not there, the truth is self preservation is very strong. You know if you did try to stop this man that he would turn on you with that knife... who the hell is going to take that chance?

Sounds like a mind control victim from the initial description, but I definitely want to hear more about this. From the lack of reaction by the other passengers, I have to wonder if some ‘calmative’ was being used.
Looks like the ‘war on knifes’ is migrating from the UK to the great white north.

This absolutely makes me freaking sick. Sick of predators like this and sick of people acting like sheep.

As soon as I got ahold of a tire iron I would of went back into that bus and beat that guys freaking skull in. Its not about the victim at that point. At that point that pathetic excuse for a human's termination, with extreme prejudice, would be the only solution. People or I should say monsters like that do not deserve to breathe.

Heck If I was an officer on the scene I would of shot him. I woudn't care if my career was finished or not.

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thats why banning weapons is so friggen ridiculous.

yeah, take away all the weapons so its all a super fun la-la land!

in reality the psychos get the weapons no matter what, then the sane people who would stop the psychos have no way to fight them.

thank god i live in Colorado where we can still carry guns, knifes, etc. If i dont have a gun on me, or near me, then i sure as heck have a knife.

think about it peaceful hippie people. if that was you gettin attacked youd want a gun to shoot the guy. or just let him cut your head off.

the world is a messed up place, and always will be. as soon as you forget that, you let down your defences.

Remember, if knives were banned, chances are that guy would have still had one.

It is interesting that there seem to be many jumping to blame the other people on the bus for not "saving" the young man being stabbed. Other people have commented that there is a rather wide chasm between "what I would do in that situation" and "what I'm actually capable of doing". Blame is always a popular topic. Who do we blame for this terrible thing that happened? First, start with the guy with the knife. Then, before you start to judge those poor people who witnessed all of this, consider the fact of what they were witness to. It's very different for those of us sitting at computers reading about what these people witnessed first hand.

What needs to be of immediate concern is what caused this man to do what he did. There are any number of reasons he may have to justify in his mind the actions that led him to murder this young man, but what disturbs me and what I know disturbs many others is the description of him acting robot-like in his actions- the "mind control" element.

Was he on prescription drugs? Was he using narcotics? Does he have a history of mental problems? I wanna know what could drive a person to murder and decapitate another individual without any known reason and in a robotic, unemotional fashion. I want to know because there could be any number of others out there who are just as capable, who slip into black out states and do things they may not normally do. Our society, collectively, advocates that type of behavior. Instead of worrying about what you would do and comparing it to what you believe these people were too cowardly to do themselves, we should understand the pain of those involved, the victim's family and friends, and those who witnessed this horrible thing, and start to work out how we can prevent it in the future. It's not just restrictions on weapons, it's understanding the nature of what leads an otherwise normal person to robotically kill another person and then mutilate the body. It's not black and white.

When the Columbine shootings happened, everyone started to call the shooters "monsters". And while their actions were terrible and the results devastating- it has changed the entire educational system in the US- there were reasons they did what they did. It's not simply being a monster. People don't just wake up one day and kill innocents for no apparent reason. There is a build-up and it seems more recently there are also seemingly benign prescriptions involved many times. The root of the problem has nothing to do with knives or guns, it has to do with the mind controlling the hands that use them.

Count the guns out, I believe there are several stuff lableled as "less lethal' weapons that a civilian can carry like pepper spray, taser & stun gun.

The permission to carry is of course may vary from country or city.
But these defensive weapons definitely had proven to save lives as well.

Well if you were on that bus and have these weapons, would you hesitate to use it in defense of another person being attacked this way?

Am I the only one who suspects that their may be a real life "Kira" behind all of this? Now hear me out on this, there have been several mysterious deaths, just like this one, in different countries across the world, where it would seem that mind control played a part...

He wasn't even angry not yelling or nothing apparently just like a robotic stabbing carving machine not even grunting just dissecting.
This is bizarre like hes under some control or something.
I guess he could be a mental patient or something and heard voices and just snapped.

The guy was not mad, like he was walking at the beach...he was like a "robot" said the first video.

Can you say MK Ultra...Can you say Dr Ewing Cameron?

Originally posted by Fathom

Originally posted by TheRepublic
the kid may have 4 stabbing wounds, 5 at max.
he could be given medical treatment and may have survived.

Dude...*sigh* this is a butcher's knife.
how about I stab you in the neck 4 or 5 times max and see if you "survive"

I hate to be an ass, but that's technically not a butchers knife. That is a "chef's knife" or a "cook's knife" (by the looks of it an A.J. Henckels too)

-- similar to an Asian Santoku for general-all purpose chopping of vegtables.

A butcher's knife is more rectangular like this:



[edit on 31-7-2008 by MystikMushroom]