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Horror as bus passenger beheaded

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posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 02:34 PM
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As sick and disturbing as this crime is we need more beheadings, when they take our knives we need more stonings, when they take our stones we need more beatings, until people realize that a reactionary force like the police are not going to protect their friends, neighbors and citizens; that enforcement has to be dealt with by the public to set an example to people like this.



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 03:16 PM
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Here is the answering machine from the killer......

www.canada.com...

"Hi, this is Li, I can't take call at this moment, please leave name, telephone number and a message I will call you back. Thank you, you have a wonderful day, bye."





[edit on 2-8-2008 by Dulcimer]



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 03:19 PM
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The police audio of the event has largely been taken down, but the quotes are in some articles. Here is one.

canadianpress.google.com...

I did save an mp3 of the audio, but I do not think it should be posted. It seems like it is only a partial of the recording, which leads me to wonder what the rest contained. I would love to hear it.



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 03:32 PM
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killer is a chinese- indonesian moslem. i'm betting the unaware victim was a jew.........



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 04:29 PM
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He was quoted as saying, "What else is there to do on a bus trip in Canada? They dont have movies you know."



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 04:50 PM
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The whole story is making me feel more uneasy than the horror film im watching!

I have been put off siting next to people i dont know on public transport!

I feel so sorry for the vitim. RIP!

This man should have a sentence in jail where he can never get out, a lifetime in Jail ALONE, is worse than any death penalty, as they have to suffer for their entire life! Well actully this man needs -
A - A white padded room
B - A dark concrete room, all he has is a hard bed and no comforts, and have it so the most anyone is allowed to say to him is 'SHUT UP'

I feel terible after coming accross this story now!



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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I am a "Canuck" who lives near the place the incident occured.

As far as what the possible mind control angle could be...I thought this out last night.

We had a "strange" disease outbreak on a subway car this summer that killed some folks...while your army was doing maneuvers here for a week...Ok that takes care of subway travel. No further mention of the incident EVER!!! So now we are trained to accept deathly unexplained stuff on the subway.

Now the bus...an lovely alternate to trains or plains. I took that same busline from Ontario to British Columbia at the age of 18 with my little baby. I didn't have a gun with me by the way.

That stretch of road that is deserted is very very long...and those stretches are frequent across the country...that is a prairie province where there are plains and huge farms.

I figure this is the next move in getting us used to third world stuff. We in Canada are not used to gruesome public deaths...But that is what the NWO will be doing in the U.S. and Canada eventually as well as the rest of the world. This horrendous act was to accustom us to it.

This person was charged with manslaughter 2...which is a very light charge and usually would indicate a plea bargain. There is nothing to plea bargain for as everyone saw this happen so there is no lack of witnesses or evidence.

Does that scream SCAM to you? It does to me. This guy may get out in a couple of years...in fact most likely will. If he was paid big bucks to do this...I am sure a couple of years in the slammer or a hospital will be a small issue to the murderer. Only time will tell what will happen.

Even if he is deemed criminally insane he will be able to get out of the hospital in a couple of years. I worked as a psychiatric nurse with the criminally insane and had a client who had slit his co-worker's throat from ear to ear with no provocation. This guy, as did many made of the people I nursed on the job made my hair stand on end...One day I was in a shopping plaza one block from my home and who should appear beside me, call me by name and say hello...that same person. HE WAS OUT AGAIN! I was praying he would not follow me and find out where I lived.

Since death and suffering are not funny I would really save my sarcasm for myself Yankee neighbor...Guns don't solve everything. Of course it was not our will to go gunless. Citizens are not consulted here any more than they are there about the wars you engage in so frequently and at such great cost to humans and society as an entirety. I predict that you will eventually lose your gun privileges in the end. The take over is too precise and controlled...no matter what Ted Nugent wants.

Always be careful about being callous to other's suffering as it may in turn happen to you.

Anonymous in this post...though a member



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 06:40 PM
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Also there was cannibalism involved as well...from newspaper article..This makes me sick, and the fellow was left without any help from other passengers..how bout everyone jumping him in unison?
What would happen if this was done on a plane in flight? and no one could get off in mid -air?



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 06:43 PM
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Actually Sociopaths have been known to be void of any emotion whatsoever. It's a very sick, very sad, very tragic story. I still cannot believe it happened. Well obviously I do believe it happened, but I am still very shocked by it all.



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 06:46 PM
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Has anyone else had the thought... "M K Ultra" here.
At the risk of sounding like a paranoid conspiracy theorist (that I am), it sounds so bizarre that I am wondering if there is a possibility of mind control and/or thought projection here.
Think "Manchurian Candidate". Think "Remote Viewing". Think "Psychic Assassination"...

THINK!!!



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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Police tape: Canada bus killer ate victim's flesh

TORONTO - A police officer at the scene of a fatal stabbing on a Canadian bus reported seeing the attacker hacking off pieces of the victim's body and eating them, according to a police tape leaked on the Internet Saturday.

www.msnbc.msn.com...



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by TheRepublic
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im sure the kid that got stabbed 4 times by the crazy dude would vouch for me... i mean seriously.

i dont just go around shooting people i suspect of being crazy. does anyone think anymore?


I have to agree with you.. and your prior posts.


1st, I don't care what people say, think or rationalize.. it's REALLY really sad that people just wimped out and pansy wristed off the bus. People dying in er waiting rooms, hit by cars and laying in the street, ALL with people standing around and doing NOTHING.

You know what? These people, like the people who ran off this bus in cowardes make me more sick than the guy who actually did the murdering.


2nd. Taking guns away from people in general is only going to keep them out of the hands of most good people and only miscreants are going to have them. If MORE -good- people had guns I guarantee you stuff like this would get curbed REAL quick.

If I was on that bus that little freak would have probably more than one Hydra Shok .45 caliber through his head. (-After- a life threatening threshold was crossed, of course)

Even if I was not carrying I would have done SOMETHING.

Just my two cents.


P.S. I have a feeling this type of thing is going to get worse and we are going to see more of these 'freaky' incidents. You may not agree with me but we NEED more 'John Waynes' in the world. (Good people with arms) ARM yourselves. Carry some mace.. and or a tazer. I ALWAYS carry mace or a tazer on me if I'm not carrying. If you want to be hapless and afraid.. go ahead and be a dear in the headlights.. I'm not going to join you in your haze. I'm sure as more and more of this stuff happens more people might wake up. I can only hope.



[edit on 2-8-2008 by ViewFromTheStars]



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 08:58 PM
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They were watching 'Zorro'.
Don't think that has much to do with it, though, but, the mentally ill get off pretty easy as far as punishment!


[edit on 2-8-2008 by Clearskies]



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 11:19 PM
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I don't know about you, but this really creeps me the # out. It really scares me to think that something like this could really happen to ANYONE, and no one ever expects it.



posted on Aug, 2 2008 @ 11:41 PM
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This is tragic indeed. Society can't always be 100% safe and peaceful all the time. Lunatics don't need permits. No law is going to protect you from someone like this. Guns, knifes, hell even a pencil jabbed in your side can kill. It doesn't matter if guns are allowed or not, if someone wants one they will get it. This is just something society has to accept anyone can do this at any given moment and flip their lid. All I can say is arm yourself, learn self defense, be more aware. I have taken martial arts and I can honestly say, in that situation going on in a bus loaded with other people, it would have been almost impossible to do anything with everyone in a frantic state running to the exit. Close hand to hand combat trying to disarm a person with a knife isn't as easy as people think. In that case of course you would want to be armed with your own knife. I don't know it's hard to say how things go down when the adrenalin is pumping I probably would have knuckled my car keys and engaged him. If you take martial arts all that fancy dance kicks is great but most of the time it's not useful. learn street fighting or martial arts that has strong base of instruction in grappling, hand locking, take downs, wing chung, chin na type stuff. That's the bread and butter of self def.

[edit on 2-8-2008 by sean]

[edit on 3-8-2008 by sean]



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 05:24 AM
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Ok this I did not know...the cops stood and watched him hacking off pieces of flesh and didn't kill or wound him? Please! What the hell is this?

Forget the people who left the bus. The cops were either under orders not to shoot or too afraid of being sent to a desk job during a police investigation. Everyday people are not going to intervene in a freakish and totally startling situation such as happened. They were probably all in shock and will no doubt be for the rest of their lives. Hey I didn't sleep all night this creeped me out so badly and I WORKED with people like the killer on a daily basis and came home each night and went to sleep...

BUT THE COPS!!!


Still anonymous ex psych nurse



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 05:37 AM
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I'm searching for any connection between V.Weiguang Li and SHEN Weiguang who wrote extensively on Information Warfare in China and the concept of "electronic beheading" before IW campaigns.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 06:11 AM
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That sounds like a good idea, there could very well be a connection here.

Personal what i thought when i first read about this was that this guy is 40 and so mabe he was conditioned as a child under some cold war project.
He was "abandoned" by the project when the cold war ended and left to live his life but maybe he overheard something in the music that the victim was listening to or overheard something another passenger said that "activated him" and cause him to do this.

The subsequent beheading and canabalism may be the result of degredation in the "programming" from the project and caused him to act strangely after he commited the murder.

I have seen a few posts mentioning MK Ultra which i think are good suggestions.



posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by Valhall
This freaks me out. I hope this story doesn't just fade away. I want to hear what they learn of the attacker. Was he on medications? If so, what kind and for what? Was he schizophrenic? Man - I'm not sure how much help I'd need if I was one of these passengers.


That is EXACTLY what I wanna know too... this just doesn't seem right, apparently his employer said that he was a real quiet and nice guy, and also very punctual, always on time, never had a problem...

The best motives I can think of are:

A, He truly is a schizophrenic and wasn't taking meds.. (I have a fiend who is also schizophrenic and he can get very violent at times if he doesn't get his medication)

B, I heard someone mention this could be something to do with 'Mind Control'.. if it is, that is really *snip* up and I don't want to think about it...

C, OR....He really didn't like that Zorro movie...


What ever the reason, Its really really disturbing.... imagine what those people had to see...


 


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posted on Aug, 3 2008 @ 08:03 AM
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Why didn't someone try to stop him???????



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