Another NASA employee comes forward - 8-9 Foot Alien Sighted

reply to post by RiotComing

Some would claim that religious folks have also witness phenomenon that can't be explained. Statues weeping, mother of christ being seen, and also having spoken with jesus himself. There are photos and video of these religious things. These all sound like the alien phenomenon, so what makes one more credible than another.



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Is the guy out to snag a few dollars? Maybe so. but if you're honest, so are 99% of the people on here saying he ought to give up anything he has for free. Most of you have a job, an income, you like getting paid. I bet if the boss said he wanted you to just donate a months work for "the good of the company" you would be real eager.

And if you have something you think has value, then you sell it. You don't take your old car and give it to charity, to help humanity; you take what the dealer offers as a trade in value on the new one. You don't take the old letter from Abe Lincoln that you found in the attic and give it to a museum without taking the tax deduction for it.

Why do people think someone who has information wouldn't want to sell it? If you had a picture of Bush french kissing a monkey, you'ld be on the phone to every tabloid you could find. And you know it. So it's hypocritical to then think just because the subject is UFOs, it ought to be free. How many people made small fortunes from pictures of planes on 9/11, and that was a major tradgedy, yet no one thought ill of them.

The money angle is a red herring used by people to bolster an already made up mind. Now I'm not saying i think this guy is being truthful. He may be as crazy as a pet coon. He may be just one more in a long train of scammers. He may be the real thing. But basing your position on the fact he wants to profit from it is taking the easy way out. It's junk logic.

I'll wait and see what comes of this. Neither believing or disbelieving yet.

(Oh, and for the poster who thought I should be ridiculed for defending the aged, thanks for giving me a much needed laugh. I enjoy light reading time to time.)

Originally posted by riggs2099
Before anyone gets on my case...I too have witnessed UFO's. That is why I am on here to find some answers. I have seen these things so I believe in them but I have no proof that they are alien controlled, I only witnessed objects that to me are unidentified. I consider myself to be a skeptical believer. I have many arguements on here with skeptics and believers, both have thier guys who are unwilling to look at anything else. These are the guys I have a problem with. It is very pigheaded to have made a decision on the subject and then to tell everyone else they are wrong without all the evidence being in.

So you say you've seen UFOs? Where's YOUR proof? Why should we believe you?
Prove you are only here to find answers! Prove you are not just casting dispersions on others with similar claims. Prove you aren't going to start charging money for more information ...

You get my point?

Duncan

reply to post by riggs2099

Let me clarify what I do and don't 'believe' about that book (even though this is completely off-topic and I wish you would refrain from derailing this thread which is specifically about Clark McClelland - if you are going to post, please post about him and not me).

I believe the book is correct on all aspects, INCLUDING the one that Earth is a prison planet - you are most wrong there in your assumption of me not being prepared to believe that - heck I think most of us agree we are living in it right now! I believe it is correct that intelligent life has existed in the universe for perhaps infinity (just like the Raelians said), that ET have been concerned for the planet's welfare with regard to the misuse of atomic technology, that ET communicate via telepathy, that we reincarnate.. among many other things. What I DON'T believe is the way the book was written. It was crafted as a work of fiction and if the evidence was burnt well that was a very stupid thing for the author to do in my opinion. You can read more about what I have to say about the book here.

Now can we please get back to Clark McClelland. I think he is who he says he is, and his motives, whether it be money or otherwise, are justifiable.

It's a pity the skeptics on the thread tend to repeat themselves over and over and over. I wish they would say their point once and leave the thread, but no, the same person has to keep coming back and repeat the same point they had a page or two previous. It's disheartening, I just want to see this guy get the time of day.

ATS can be a tough crowd to please, unfortunately.

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reply to post by nexusmagazine


Are you mentally challenged I never claim to have proof of anything just that I saw something. Besides its a lot more rational to say you saw you some lights in the sky that are unidentified to the observer than to say you have seen 9ft aliens. Hey if you wish to believe some guy with no evidence to back his story up than by all means go for it. I am not asking you to believe me...

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Excuse me, but I must gather that most of you folks can't read. The guy is not offer $500 for the story to be printed but WANTING that amount.

reply to post by RiotComing

All these events were foretold in the Bible long ago. That is what most of the Bible is, prophesy about these times. And shortly you will witness 'the Dark Side' coming out in public, and claiming a huge very believable lie, about them 'creating' man thru genetic manipulation and such. Claiming to be the good guys, but like our stalwart law enforcement officers, 'pretending to be angels of light', they are actually our foes, the bad guys. And you will witness it all, personally, in the next few years. These aliens have been working on this big lie for a long, long time, creating 'evidence' to support their lie, in ancient civilizations. I give you a hint, to show I know what I am talking about; the next event in prophesy is for the Muslims to attempt to wipe out the memory of Israel. And it will backfire; Iran will become uninhabitable, and I suspect Israel will also nuke Mecca, putting an end to Islam, and our war on terror. Also, they will nuke the area they just withdrew from, probably with neutron bombs so they can reinhabit it. After that, Nemesis.

reply to post by Aliensun

That was what I assumed right at the beginning of the discussion, but we were probably put wrong by Tha Joker on the first page. Having now seen consequent email releases from Clark, it's evident he doesn't have that kind of money to go spreading around. Our discussion was merely thrown off-track early on, that's all. You are correct.

reply to post by RiotComing


Riot, you make a very interesting case and I will definitely read up on the alien interview.

I have always had a feeling that earth has less to offer than what is out there... I guess that's one way to put it.

Originally posted by Aliensun
Excuse me, but I must gather that most of you folks can't read. The guy is not offer $500 for the story to be printed but WANTING that amount.

And apparently, those who can read, can't write! 'The guy is not OFFERING...' and I read it and it does in fact appear that he is offering money to print it, but he has been financially destroyed, and he has something worth money. I wish him well, that he can recoup some of his lost money. But turning to the American "Justice" system is ridiculous. What is worse, a country that pretends to have law, but does not, or a country that does not, and makes no pretense of it? And by having law, I mean enforced and respected law. We have good laws on the books, but they are ignored by the elite, including judges, cops, lawyers, and bureaurats. The rest of us 'low lifes' are compelled to follow laws that they are immune to.

reply to post by Gregarious


What in the holy hell does any of that have to do with this guy, just out of curiosity?

I am fairly convinced the UFO phenomenon is real, and that aliens are probably visiting the earth. The problem I have with these 'official disclosures' by Mitchell and McLelland is that they are SHORT on details. McLellend says he witnessed an 8 foot ET and the alien craft. Well... WHAT DID THEY LOOK LIKE?! WHAT SHUTTLE MISSION DID IT HAPPEN ON?! You see, if we had these details, we could follow up with the astronauts involved and file FOIA requests, etc. However, we DIDN'T GET the details. Edgar Mitchell says he was priviledged enough to be 'briefed' on the alien matter, but he doesn't tell us who briefed him, where it was conducted, what was said, etc. If you are going to spill the beans, well then darn it, SPILL THE BEANS! Don't do it half-assed. It is for this reason that I continue to doubt a lot of this crud.

By the way, why is it that everyone always knows someone ELSE on the 'inside', but they themselves are never on the 'inside'? Is this just one big, nasty, rumor gone wild? It really could be. Someone from the 'inside' needs to leak a clear, unambiguous video of a real alien and spacecraft. If this is all true, you know there exist such videos. Let one of them leak.

Originally posted by Gregarious
it does in fact appear that he is offering money to print it

No, he is charging for authorization to reprint his story, as per this:

(bold/ital per me for emphasis)

To reprint this article in any newspaper, magazine, mention on TV, Radio, etc., a cost of $500 will be the amount to do so! It must be sent to the address below in a US Postal Money Order! No personal bank checks will be accepted! Why am I charging for this service? Many of you are not aware that my retirement was denied to me when I left KSC! I am not rich or well-off! Thank you. CCM.

I agree with another poster, that if a man TRULY had info that would CHANGE THE WORLD, he would not charge for the info, he would make it available with acknowledgment to himself, that alone would gain more profit than, phft, $500 !!!

Originally posted by thrashee
What in the holy hell does any of that have to do with this guy, just out of curiosity?

Motive/agenda. He seems to be pitching for money, rathe rather than bringing life changing info to the world. That has EVERYthing to do with this!

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sweet!!!! another nano-inch closer to disclosure. it's just too bad that our destination is still 5 million light years away. I think things like this aren't going to prove that aliens exist or if they don't. you believe or you don't, it's as simple as that.
the governments never going to tell us anything. they are all liars and murderers. that's right cia. i said the governments all liars and murderers.

nothing will come of this.
until the aliens land

People pay thousands of dollars for pictures of britney spears coochie or angelina and brad pitts newborn babies. And here is this guy possibly holding information that is earth shattering. I think he's entitled to a few bucks for his time.

He's been screwed out of his lifes work. He should get some love back. You know what I mean?

Originally posted by grey580
People pay thousands of dollars for pictures of britney spears coochie or angelina and brad pitts newborn babies. And here is this guy possibly holding information that is earth shattering. I think he's entitled to a few bucks for his time.

I don't. He's ONLY entitled to it if it's TRUE. Sadly, he refuses to disclose the very evidence (do I see a theme here?) that would support his claims for fear of reprisal. *cough cough*

He's been screwed out of his lifes work. He should get some love back. You know what I mean?

If you want to give him some love, by all means, go ahead and give it to him.

reply to post by FremenBlueEyes


Fremen!!! A 'nano-inch'!!! What a brilliant phrase.

I think, if no one else sees the humor, or the irony, then they are just too busy watching 'American Idol', or something.

Sorry if I dropped in, after a pause, and missed something....I saw what Fremen posted, and had to comment. No way I intended to go off-topic. I belileve what I've already written earlier should absolve me....but, just in case....

Just in case no one else postulated.....what IF human beings lived for many, many generations on a planet that, while having an environment, such as an atmosphere that could support human life, but happened to have a gravitional field of less than one 'G'....would you not expect that offspring may grow taller, and more slender, than the average Earth-bound human?

Say....maybe 8 or 9 feet tall??? Just wonderin'.......

Originally posted by NGC2736
And if you have something you think has value, then you sell it. You don't take your old car and give it to charity, to help humanity; you take what the dealer offers as a trade in value on the new one. You don't take the old letter from Abe Lincoln that you found in the attic and give it to a museum without taking the tax deduction for it.

AH! Another mind reader who KNOWS what I would do in a certain situation. I would think a moderator would know better than to make such a broad generalization. Some people really don't worry much about the material world. I could make 5x what I make now if I worked in my trained field but I make $7.50 an hour under the table because I am happy and content with what I have(very, very little).

That said, I'm willing to listen to this guy, maybe he saw something. His credentials do kind of indicate that he's not just some mental patient.

Vas

reply to post by Misfit


That part I understand. What I don't understand is the rambling about the justice system. Not from you, from Gregarious.

hmm just did a search through NASA about Clark C. McClelland can anyone actually deturmine if he did in fact work for NASA?

i couldnt find any thing relating to him on there or the web except about these claims.

not saying he didnt work for NASA, and in all honesty it wouldnt surprise me if NASA purged anything public refering to him for deniability reasons, but lets face it with all the people he mentioned as reference to his achievements they have been very quiet. I woulda thought at least one of them woulda had the nads to stand up and verify whe was what he says he was.

i want to believe but evidence supoprting his role in NASA is hard to find.

p.s anyone seen the pic of theadministrator for NASA, he got a face not even his mother would trust
and the Deputy makes snow look warm...

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