Another NASA employee comes forward - 8-9 Foot Alien Sighted

Originally posted by solo1

I don't wish to diminish the importance of the story but I just wish for once they would come forward before they became old and senile

Okay, here's something: Discovery Commander in news conference in Tokyo doesn't brush off 'alien' question. Now, I know that a) he doesn't come out and say "I seen 'em!", and b) this isn't a top quality news organization that I'm quoting from here- but still, a current, flying astronaut saying something other than 'I can't comment on that' is news.

If Dr Mitchell can confirm the credibility of McClelland then I suppose that would add some extra weight to the story. Maybe a connection exists here or maybe not. Lets hope this is a domino effect with shatfed ex NASA staff.

But to be honest, like many already posted, I dont like the 'sob' story on his site,

"I am asking those that are rich, famous, like Rock Stars, Movie Stars, Bill Gates, all who have enough $$ for ten life times, PLEASE HELP ME! I am doing this FOR YOU, the Human Race! I am standing ALONE, so FAR! Are any of you courageous enough to assist me?"

Its a bit too much info for me...

Surely if he had done some research he could contact groups like Project Camelot or others who could possibly help him financially or position him in a better light within certain privately funded UFO researchers?

Anyway, I think people are concentrating too much on the money aspect and I havent seen to much discussion on some of the stuff he has said. If he is telling the truth then his comment below is pretty scary.

"Aliens ARE HERE!! They walk among US! They may be implanted into OUR various earth governments!!"

reply to post by lostbug


Actually the astronaut in this stuff.co.nz article said he didn't think Aliens had visited earth.

Pretty easy not to "brush off questions of aliens" if your definition of them is alien life in any form and you don't believe they are here.

reply to post by NGC2736

LMAO.. If anyone BUT a Mod were to have posted this they would have been laughed at, made fun of and generally harassed about being old. Kiss butts!!!

reply to post by Astroplasma


I used to find it compelling, but that's when I viewed this topic more simplistically. Now I have a bit more of a real world attitude. Money is a big motivating factor, especially when you lose your company pension plan, and the chances of you keeping your own home become very slim.

So far all I see is retired golf course buddies, looking to augment their pension funds a bit. I can just imagine Mitchell getting on the phone to this guy "Just say you saw an alien or something!!"

There are so many of these guys around, selling books and making unbelievable claims of varying degrees. I would find it more interesting if someone who actually had something to lose would speak out. losing crediblity in exchange for thousands of dollars in book sales? I'd do it, plenty of people do it, even those who don't write about aliens.

What I did when I saw this thread, I got the guys name, googled it with the word "book" And surprise surprise, the guy is selling books. Why was I disappointed and not shocked? ALL of these guys are selling something, they are just scammers like the people who email you, or send you letters saying you just won thousands of dollars or a car.

[edit on 30-7-2008 by unnamedninja]

Nice thread!
Starred and flaged!

I was browsing through the internet for my occasional duties and before i left I said to myself "let's check the top stories on ATS".
I had to browse the front page twice to actually realize the tittle of the thread, because IMO it might be really important about another case of a claimed close encounter incident in space.
You can check my signature to view this thread if you like.
The astronaut witnesses from that encounter, from what scraps of data all the posters participating we were able to unearth were of a significant physical height just like the case that is reported in this thread.

I could not help myself but to wonder if this report of the NASA ground control employee that is described in this thread, wether it can be verified as real at some time in the future, and if indeed was the same body physique of the alledged alien he witnessed with the case of the 1981 Salyout 6 incident reported by several trustworthy Russian space service men.

I deem the case of the Soyuz incident much significant and as it is pointed out it might have been a specific species of aliens that appeared both at the first human mission to the moon (US Apollo) and also appeared in the Salyout Incident.

I dont wish to extend to any fictitious scenarios for the current case discussed in this thread but I am very intriqued by the mention of the alledged NASA ground employee that the US space service men were seen in an interactive form of communication with the alien being.
If this claim holds any truth to it then:

a) The service men of our international space fleets might have been accustomed to visitations by a SPECIFIC type of beings and often do not hesitate to engage in some kind of dialogue because they are used to this sight.
b) There is an active exposure of the activities of a specific type of beings to our space fleets personel that was a concious and probably carefull decission from their part that it was declaring they chose to not remain hidden and instead inform our race of their existance and their physical presence for whatever reasons, in our system and also exhibit their interest in human race in general.
c) If the Soyouz case and this case match in the identity of the beings, our race for an unknwon amount of time probably some decades, is being presented with a forerunner of an official contact by another space fairing civilization. The beings on the Soyouz incident were described as mechanical and not biological or at least a mixed creation.
As we can safely assume any other biological entity fully developed and being sentient would not choose to interact with their physical presence with any unknown species, therefore they would choose to keep a safety protocol of contact with unexplored worlds.

I am sorry if anyone has mentioned similar views in this thread and i seem to repeat them, but I have very little time to interact with the internet these days

Originally posted by caballero
reply to post by Tha Joker

 

The Joker once said "if your good at something dont do it for free" this is the same basic idea, this guy has HUGE news and he wants some money for it. Nothing out of the ordinary there, just greed.

No, greed is getting more than you need at the expense of others. If you read more from this guy, it is readily apparent that he has lost a pension and is financially strapped.

My take? He kept his silence because he thought that was part of the deal with NASA. And now they've broken faith with him and so he is going public. Possibly with a broken heart. Meanwhile, like everyone else, he has to pay rent and eat.

I think the $500 fee is for smaller outlets trying to reprint the article -- meaning, the MAIN STREAM MEDIA, isn't going to pay big bucks and wouldn't reprint this story for free. Which he probably knows, so he is looking for a lot of little news sites and hoping he can get by.

I'm reading some files from an ex chief of the FBI, discussing project Zipper and of course, the 100,000 plus unexplained disappearances in the US. They talk of Zeppelin-like silvery craft about a hundred years ago spotted in the Pacific NW and that the standard procedure is to find a kook and interview him -- then put that on the record. They never interview the thousands of credible people like Radar Technicians who spot these things but can't see them on radar.

Anyway, I don't know if it is one blogger's bogus account or something more. Apparently CIA director Crowley had some 15,000 pages of documents of CIA skullduggery; www.tbrnews.org...

But, I take all this with a grain of salt.

Originally posted by GreyFoxSolid
Wait a second- Most of you are basically telling me that this guy is credible because he says he is. Personally I have never heard of this man. I don't even know how to look him up (maybe I will try after I am finished writing this).

Would have been better to try before you started making a point, surely?
You have kind of belittled your post with that by telling everyone that you haven't bothered doing any research on something you are about to make a statement on anyway.

If you had searched previous to your post, you might have decided that you no longer had any point to make or you might have been able to find more information to back up your point.

well as far as being thinking this guy is being greedy..
i can just say i doubt he is being greedy at all.. he wants compensation for his story..

but he pretty much has already told what he has witnessed.. and we all got that for free.. now whether his story will include other encounters i dont know but i mean.. people need to grow up.. you have the truth lying right before your eyes yet everychance you get you wanna write someone off as being greedy or doing it for the money..

if it was for the money then why would he have put out there some of what he knows already for free?

maybe his story will include indepth details maybe he even has documents.. who knows.. in his situation i would want money too.. his life is crap at the moment and.. he probably wont have much of one after he exposes nasa.. so why not get some money and be able to have good leisure time before he is assasinated or somethin like that?

he is not crazy.. nasa doesnt hire crazy people..
do you know how much it takes to be an astronaught? pfft c'mon now some of you people really really need to get real.. or get a life.. one or the other..

if he was head of the real x-files.. then im sure he has some sort of proof..
im really really believing most of the people who instantly deny stuff are some kind of government nerd group trolling conspiracy site forums.. just to put out disinformation.. must be one of the lamest jobs ever.. but i guess it pays so why the heck not do it eh? it might not even be real people making these post.. we have so much tech the negative posts might actually be being posted by artificial intelligence.. who the hell knows..

i for one believe these astronaughts..

[edit on 30-7-2008 by celoco]

So this person will only tell his story if we provide him with substantial financial rewards. I'm sorry but this guy has no credibility. There is no way to prove what he is saying is true, it is most likely that he decided to exploit people and make up some alien nonsense for personal gain since he is obviously in financial trouble. He probably came up with this story one night and just went with it.

If he wants respect he needs to provide some evidence we can verify. It's too easy and convenient to just say you saw an alien. Without any evidence it cannot be accepted as fact. Also, he's trying to tell me that with such a background as his he can't get a job paying over $5/ hour. Who is he trying to fool?

reply to post by unnamedninja


I do see your point. The first thing I did when I read the original post in this topic is Google "Clark McClelland". I found the lack of easily accessible information on him actually sort of odd...for some reason it made me more sympathetic, more inclined to believe. Perhaps that is just the way I am wired - or the way I have been conditioned.

here's interesting articles mentioning clark c mcclelland.

about his work with NASA and other aeronautical company
qtm.net...

clark interview senator glodwater re: UFO
www.authorsden.com...

ufologie.net's paola harris interview with clark
ufologie.net...

author's den backround info on clark
www.authorsden.com...

[edit on 30-7-2008 by beastamerica]

Originally posted by ngchunter

Originally posted by triplesod
That's the real World mate. People need to survive and to do that they do something that people will pay money for, it is perfectly natural and doesn't at all take away from his statement. It is quite unfair and very cynical to accuse him of anything underhanded just because he wants payment for his work.

EDIT: I will say though that Mr McClelland has published book/s on the subject of UFOlogy. He is possibly (probably?) in the process of publishing one right now

If he honestly had proof that ETs had been in direct contact with NASA then he'd know that he wouldn't have to beg for the money. He'd know he'd be showered in cash for appearances on every talk show from now to judgement day. His claim as to why he was terminated stinks big time. A secret giant object hurtling towards us at high fractions of c for at least the last 15 years and only NASA has noticed? Not buying it. At the very least, if he's being honest he should arrange it so that his being paid is contigent on there being solid proof. In other words, publishing it in something like a book. If he's being honest and his evidence is sound then it'll be an instant best seller and he'll be much richer than just $500 bucks a hit from each media outlet. As it stands he could be totally BS'ing everything and he'd still be paid quite well for it, even if it was a total lie without a shred of evidence.

[edit on 30-7-2008 by ngchunter]

This is just plain wrong thinking. The mainstream media would NOT shower you with appearances and cash even if you did have evidence of aliens at NASA. I worked in media, and still do, and things run differently from what you see on TV shows about media organisations.

Clark is broke, and is trying to get some money to stay alive. I deal with the guy from time to time, and he is the real deal. He might be cantankerous, but he is not a liar. He is sitting on heaps more stuff, but won't reveal things that will get him or others still alive into trouble.

Duncan

Someone find out if Mitchell's house was going into foreclosure. He might be pulling an Ed McMahon.

Originally posted by nexusmagazine
Clark is broke, and is trying to get some money to stay alive. I deal with the guy from time to time, and he is the real deal. He might be cantankerous, but he is not a liar. He is sitting on heaps more stuff, but won't reveal things that will get him or others still alive into trouble.

Duncan

Then why is he even bothering with all of this at all? If he's broke and has all of this information that he can't reveal, why is he trying to make money off that information

Think about it. The sane thing to do is go get a job and forget all about this nonsense.

Everyones motives should be questioned when there is money involved.
If he really just wanted to tell the truth, money wouldn't matter.
I think some of them are just trying to cause a stir to make the whole issue about ET's look stupid.

reply to post by nexusmagazine


That is my impression as well. I just don't see the commercial potential in his testimony. This is just a casual observation, but if he was solely concerned with money, wouldn't it make more "financial sense" to create and market a story of more substance and intrigue? (IE Serpo, Dulce wars, etc.) Or even simple, old-fashioned, Alex Jones-style fear and paranoia? Am I making sense? I am new to this subject, forgive me, but the way this is developing (in context with Edgar Mitchell's statements and others) makes sense to me. Perhaps I am naive...

[edit on 30-7-2008 by Astroplasma]

The way I see it is this:

A) He's telling the truth, and really did see all these things, and has more evidence that he can disclose. He's broke, so he's trying to make some money, but can't reveal all of what he has, even though his own self-stated goal is to get this information out because the world deserves the truth.

B) He's a nut job.

Either way, I have no respect for him. If he's the real deal, then the manner in which he's presented his case is unprofessional and only harms those with similar stories. Furthermore, if his goal is ultimately to spread the truth to humanity, then he should have disclosed everything he had long ago.

I don't buy that he has more evidence that could harm himself or others. If he really did possess such information, he would have been dealt with a long time ago.

What sort of alien was it reptilian, nordic, mantis

No it can't be true.. the 9ft tall dark ones controll the greys as their slaves, why would the tall one be doing the dirty work?