Former Navy SEAL and demolitions expert Jesse Ventura: U.S. Government Carried Out 9/11

Originally posted by ViewFromTheStars
Why don't we let people come to their own conclusions. Prof. Jones was doing just fine before he stood up for his beliefs concerning 911, can't get around that. His career is pretty amazing and his credentials still dwarf all but a few top scientist. Despite what you just stated you can not fully discredit Prof Jones.

To anyone reading this thread.. look it all up for yourself.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by ViewFromTheStars]

You see, this is what the event of 911 has turned into. The psychobabble that is perpetuated by the government (as it has done since this countries conception as well as every other government in history on this planet has done) is aimed at molding the views of its citizens. Once anyone stands up to the government, especially on a subject like this, they are labeled as a kook or nut job.

There is a massive amount of pressure put on the organizations that employ these people to discredit them and to distance themselves from these people that used to be one of the most highly regarded employees they had. It's sickening to witness this and know full well what is going on and yet people will swallow it because the government says it is so.

It's kind of like the UFO field. There are hundreds of former CIA, top military officers, private sector high security people, that have come out claiming that the government is covering up the contact that has been made. Yet are they taken seriously? Nope. Why? Because the government had done such a great job in the 40's and since then to create a 'nutty' aura around anyone who tries to believe in this stuff. They totally disregard the facts that these people could not have held the high offices that they did if they weren't smart as hell and sound of mind.

It's pathetic really. So now Jesse is being questioned on his credentials. It sickens me because this guy served in one of the most prestigious military units out there and should be considered a hero by any red blooded American. Yet, because he is wailing against the machine his credentials are being questioned. Just a joke really.

Originally posted by GoldenFleece

Originally posted by NorthWolfe CND
reply to post by Anonymous ATS

 

Didn't the owner of the WTC complex, can't remember his name now, admit on camera that WTC 7 had been demolished, on his order, due to it's structural damages?

I think I saw that somewhere, but can't remember the source...any help?

Yep, you're thinking of Larry "Pull It" Silverstein who admitted WTC7's controlled demolition on PBS:

Larry Silverstein, WTC 7,
and the 9/11 Demolition

www.whatreallyhappened.com...

Now come on GF, we have to keep this real. He NEVER admitted to WTC7 being demolished on his word. He simply said 'pull it' which has been heavily debated over and over. I want to try and keep this as much on topic as we can and this debate will only feed the skeptics a ton of fodder.

The term Larry used can be interpreted by anyone to mean whatever they want in order to fit their perspective of the event. When I look at how he says it with a neutral mind I can see it simply as meaning "get them out of there, let it burn."

Jesse summed it up best, "Nothings Unthinkable when it comes to Power"

Originally posted by calcoastseeker

Originally posted by Macphisto
Interesting read on Jesse. Is he a liar? Hmmmm.

www.cursor.org...

Follow this link above.
Has spent most of his life lying about his military service(never was a SEAL and never set foot in 'Nam.Got rich entertaining yokels in a fake wrestling show(circus act?).BS'ed the "good" folks of Minnesota to electing him Governor(aren't all politicians liars and fakes?) on the Reform party platform and generally didn't do anything good for the state that has had a long term effect.
Moved to Mexico so he could smoke pot,Cuban cigars and drink Tequila with his old biker buddies.
Yeah he is believable,NOT.
Heck, his name is not even Jesse Ventura it's Jim Janos.
Stop listening to this side show Circus act.

[edit on 29-7-2008 by calcoastseeker]

But please everyone belive the chuckleheads that are in office. Dubya and Co.

I love you people. Don't believe this guy over here (because he has a track record of lying, and is a politician), but believe these guys over here (even though they are also politicians, and known liars.)

You can't have it both ways.

reply to post by ThroatYogurt


Ok the point is, is that they know what demolition looks like being a building or not. You kids should fight somewhere else.

reply to post by dariousg

Oh, please. I think YOU'RE the one who needs to keep it real. Don't tell me you're one of these people who thinks Silverstein was really referring to "pulling" the firefighters or rescue workers (as if Larry Friggin' Silverstein would have any authority over FDNY firefighting efforts.) Anyway, there were no firefighters to pull. Also, pull "IT" refers to an inanimate object, not the "THEM" he would've used if he was referring to people. There's a greater likelihood he was talking about pulling his pud.

Silverstein wouldn't even discuss what he meant for years. When he finally did, he tried to claim that he really meant the firefighters who hadn't even been in WTC 7.

This one couldn't be more obvious:

In the documentary "America Rebuilds", aired September 2002, Silverstein makes the following statement;

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

In the same program a cleanup worker referred to the demolition of WTC 6: "... we're getting ready to pull the building six."

There can be little doubt as to how the word "pull" is being used in this context.

www.nogw.com...

Little doubt except for the biggest apologists of Silverstein and the government line.

reply to post by gavron

EDIT if you think navy seals only deal with water. Yeah they train a lot with water, though they cover millions of aspects that you aparently aren't aware of. Though go figure, your just a debunker who doesn't get any information right cause you're so closed minded. Regardless, navy seals don't need water to take part in operations. Infact, a buddy of mine is a seal and he doesn't go near the water, he's on security detail. Stop being ignorant.




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[edit on 30/7/2008 by Sauron]

Here's Jesse Ventura on the Alex Jones show. Loving it.

Jesse Ventura On the Alex Jones Show On YouTube Part 1 :


Jesse Ventura On the Alex Jones Show On YouTube Part 2 :


Jesse Ventura On the Alex Jones Show On YouTube Part 3 :


Local Minnesota News Cover Ventura's 9/11 Revelations :


Jesse Ventura: EXPLAINS WHY SEPTEMBER 11 LIES DON'T ADD UP!


Jesse Ventura CNN Interview April 8 2008 A TRUE PATRIOT!


[edit on 30-7-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

How many times has the Bush administration lied since the neocons hijacked America?

I can't believe there's anyone left who would give them the benefit of the doubt.

Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report

Many well known and respected senior U.S. military officers, intelligence services and law enforcement veterans, and government officials have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report or have made public statements that contradict the Report.  Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of 9/11.

...Listed below are statements by more than 130 of these senior officials. Their collective voices give credibility to the claim that the 9/11 Commission Report is tragically flawed. These individuals cannot be simply dismissed as irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy theory. Their sincere concern, backed by their decades of service to their country, demonstrate that criticism of the Report is not irresponsible, illogical, nor disloyal, per se. In fact, it can be just the opposite.

patriotsquestion911.com...

America is on the Brink of Fascism! Jesse Ventura


911 Truth: Jim Marrs in 10 Minutes

Originally posted by dariousg

Wrong! That is not what we are doing. Well, at least not what I am doing. It is simply displaying the fact that THERE ARE QUESTIONS that haven't been answered.

It's not just Jesse that has come forward with these questions. There have been THOUSANDS of highly respected engineers and such that have 'questions'. It doesn't mean that they believe the government had something to do with it but they at least have questions. Very reasonable ones too.

As I stated before, I have seen 'DEMO' experts come down on both sides of this debate. Some stated that yes, it was demo that brought WTC7 down. No doubt. Then others stating that it 'COULD' have been caused by the fires and structural damage. Not that it 'WAS' caused by this. Only a very finite few have gone so far as to say that.

So, with the track record of the people running this administration and their ability to lie and hide behind 'national security' I would say that having questions about that day is justified.

1-And why is it important to you that after the NIST came out, some college kids with weed induced paranoia found a few things that weren't answered...... when NSIT had no way of knowing this beforehand? Unanswered questions mean nothing. For it to have meaning, you must answer your own questions first, then put out your alternate view.

2- There's definitely NOT thousands of engineers, etc. Again, the same question that I quoted about JV holds true here. Look at ae911troof. An architect is an architect, and so they will have structural knowledge. But look at all the engineers- the VAST majority of them are in areas that have nothing to do in the slightest with any structural issues - software, chemical, computer sytems, etc. They have NOT demonstrated any competence regarding structural issues. Why would you listen to them unless it's what you want to hear? Here's a critical question regarding all these "highly respected engineers" - would you want to live/work in a building designed by a software engineer? I think not.....

3- Some? Don't you mean.... just 1? And that this same demo guy said that NO WAY were the towers demo'ed? Be honest here. There's no one with the credentials you need that agree with CT "demo" theories. There just isn't.

4- having questions is cool. Just don't ignore answers if they're not what you want to hear. This is common in all walks of life. People place a high value on being "right", and will defend their views to the point of absurdity. My job requires that I recognize when I'm wrong, and must be made quickly to avoid financial ruin. It happens several times a day. It was by far the roughest part of the job, but once you learn to put the ego aside at critical times, things run much smoother. You should consider this.....

Originally posted by whiteraven
Yep....Jessie is saying what I thought of when I saw the buldings come down....DEMO...

By who I do not know but as I have posted before kerosene does not melt steel....

Groovy, first post into the thread and the topic is already moot, it's back to "Well I rekon..."

oO

I think I'll step back outta this thread, and head back to the mexican alian one, it would be safer...

Dont know why id be inclined to believe an ex wrestler anyhoo...

*runs fast*

It does seem strange that the buildings stood for so long before they actually collapsed. (wouldnt the heat have been dissipating over time rather than spreading or increasing? not that i know anything about it) It also seems strange that when you fold the dollar and other bills a certain way you sort of can see the twin towers burning. Even if the planes did bring them down, who's to say the planes weren't organised? Its a bit disturbing. And as it turns out, it hasnt affected america's power globally in a negative way at all, so clearly the 'terrorism' didn't work.

Also, what is all the hype about terrorists? More people die every year in tons of different ways, than are killed by terrorists. And Ireland has had way more terrorist attacks than america. Are the people really that scared of them? Why is the government so obsessed then? Is it to get more power over people?

Oh, also, if people like the illuminati are behind it all; then its interesting that ive read that the illuminati (bavarian) are related to an older version of the illuminati in the middle east - in fact, i read that it originated in teh middle east. (where terrorism comes from)

Can someone please explain why they think WTC 7 was intentionally raized? I don't mean what causes you to believe this was the case in terms of count downs, "pull-it" caught on tape, similarity to CD, etc. I mean why do you think anyone would want to destroy WTC 7?

I've heard bits and pieces about gold being stolen or something, insurance claims , etc. Are these the only reasons anyone would have to demolish WTC 7 with explosives?

If these reasons are valid, why use the fallacy of a terror attack on adjacent buildings to cover the demolition of WTC 7? Why not just attack WTC 7 with explosives and blame fake terrorists?

Originally posted by ThroatYogurt
reply to post by ViewFromTheStars

 

It was also dismissed by his employer :BYU where his peers rejected his paper. They eventually severed him from their university.

The only logical conclusion to be made here is that this person is a 'dis-information' agent of one type or another. Our government are the masters of manufacturing doubt. The professor/SCIENTIST in question is very adament that he does NOT support conspiracy theory. He simply wants an answer to the questions that his scientific research has pointed to. Also resigning from a position is in a completely different realm from being 'severed'. 9/11 made such a huge impact on our country's psyche it's not hard to see why it's still so difficult to discuss. However that does not excuse us from asking necessary questions. I would be willing to bet all of the families who were most directly effected by this catastrophe want some real answers, and not ones spun by MSM.

people will try to debunk anything. This is a good thing for those that can handle the truth, but for those that can't ( and a good test to see if you can't (yet) is to ask yourself if you would be able to maintain your sanity should the story be true) if you could handle the uncertainty of gov't sponsored terror than you would then be able to debate this in an unbiased way. otherwise you will be willing to believe anyting that helps you stay safe in your comfort zone.

is the payoff worth it to step outside your comfort zone?






[edit on 30-7-2008 by cpdaman]

Jesse is an honest man and is simply giving his opinion. If he wants to run for President (should he change his mind) this will undoubtedly destroy his chance..

reply to post by ThroatYogurt


I wonder, how many skeptics have flown planes into buildings? Maybe you should be our guinea pig to see if this could cause a building to collapse.

Frickin' skeptics, give them compelling and overwhelming evidence and it must be BS because a former WWF wrestler agrees with the evidence.

Get with the program.

reply to post by spookjr Silverstein Himself admitted that they decided to "PULL" Building 7 . And As Can Be Plainly Seen In The Videos That The BEAMS In The Twin Towers Were Indeed CUT ! As Far As The Debri From The Twin Towers That Were Trucked Off To Be Sorted For Personal Items Of The Victims . Those Same Debri Were Quickly Shipped Off To China For Scrap ! WHY ??Although Some Of The Steel And Concrete" POWDER " Was Taken By An Expert In Chemical Analisis Has Gone On The Books Stating That Military Grade THERMITE And Other Explosives Were Indeed Found In Said Debris . I Cant Remember The Esteemed Experts Name Offhand But It Was Stated Nationally And Was Included In Reports . I Have Watched The Tapes On Both Towers And Building 7 And It Does'nt Take An Einstein To Realize That Those Buildings Were Brought Down In A Controlled Manner . How Can TWO Concrete And Steel Buildings Be Completely "PULVERIZED" Into Fine "DUST " BY JET FUEL ? And There Is Just Too Many Firefighters And Others That Heard Those Explosions To Just Be Dismissed ! And Just Something Else That Is Very Strange , Bush's Own Nephew Or Cousin Was The Security Head In One Of The Twin Towers Building That Collapsed ! FACT !! Coincidence ? I DONT THINK SO !! Everything About The Supposed Attacks Stinks And People Know It . Things Just Dont Add Up In The "SUPPOSED" Official Reports !