Former Navy SEAL and demolitions expert Jesse Ventura: U.S. Government Carried Out 9/11

reply to post by GoldenFleece


The only thing Jesse Ventura has brought down is the credibility of voters in Minnesota.

I was always wondering why I never heard an explination of the beams that were cut at an angle with molten metal along with it.

Watch,and at the 2:10 mark it shows the beams cut along with the molten metal.

reply to post by mabus325

You mean Jesse Ventura vs. the credibility of a poster who calls himself "mabus?"



[edit on 29-7-2008 by GoldenFleece]

I saw Jesse Ventura on Fox News recently, promoting his new book. The strange thing is, this video contradicts everything he said on the channel. During his interview on Fox he said he did NOT believe that the government caused the 9/11 attacks.

Perhaps this was done in order to not get his reputation tarnished in the eyes of the majority of the public?

reply to post by Griff
Wow, thats interesting. Still though there really arent a whole lot of people who could handle a demo job like the towers. Unless of course CDI helped with the job, which is probably not the case. And just because he can plant explosives underwater does not make him an engineer like you and me. I mean really, does a SEAL calculate points of force, stresses, and the like on structures that are 1000 feet high? I met a few guys in Europe that worked in structural demolition and the were engineers in charge of the operation. Definitly a cool job. Does Stacy have any sisters?

reply to post by spookjr



That was sarcasm


I guess we agree after all.

reply to post by William Marshal

I love this Country, I will die for this Country its the greatest Country in the world.

But freedom comes with a price, some men dont want us to have it because they are greedy.

I read your post and I respect your veiws.

If you think that a Government in our Great Country can "NOT" get highjack for greed and power you are sadly wrong.
This President did not even win an election it was rigg so bad that our Government couldnt even get the vote count straighten out.
So he was APPOINTED.

Yes Appointed by a handfull of juges who are bought and paid for by Corporate interst, that needs law to be pass to benefit thier multibillion dollar Corporations and a greedy power hungy sick minded man we all call a President.A President that stand behind the Corporation that paid for him to win, to be President.

He, our great President "owes" the Corporation once he is President.
Great Corporation from here and abroad (overseas) run and dictate new laws to only benefit them.

Not by WE THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, OR FOR THE PEOPLE.

It is true America has lost her way or let say our Government has lost its way.

What makes our Government guilty about been involved in 911 is they dont want to know what happened that day.
No real investgation has "Never" been done by our Government NEVER.

Any member in Congress who has tried to get an investgation done was always stonewall. These are facts.

The more you start digging the dirty it gets, lies over lies, cover up distorted truth, truth spun in to lies.

Come on 4 airplanes are high jack, 3 buildings fall in thier own foot print.
Small tiny hole in Pentagon where a massive plane flew in not breaking the windows above the entry hole or the windows on each side of the entry hole.
And our Government will not adress these issues to WE THE PEOPLE who are only asking questions.
No they are busy cover up the facts useing what method that are at there disposal and they have a lot of disposal.

The Greatest Horrible event happened on 911 and Our Government dosent want to know what happened.

Our GOVERNMENT dosent feel they need to tell us anything anymore.
and they feel they are above the laws of the land.

Yes I think our Government has lost its way
yes I believe 911 was an inside job, all the fingers point to the Bush ADMINISTRATION.

I think this thread has become another discussion or debate on 911.

I think it's more important to discuss whether Mr. Ventura's opinion on this matter is credible or not.

BTW... it aint

Flame on..

reply to post by wrathchild


Oh silly me!

I was responding to some one else who thinks our Government isnt able to to fool THE WE THE PEOPLE.

reply to post by cashlink


Agreed. 911 truth needs to be told

What's your opinion on Mr.Ventura? Does he add credibility to the 911 truth movement or is he someone who will use anything to self-promote?

Does he want to be a Ron Paul-ish underground hero?

He's just stealing another gimmick, just like he stole Superstar Billy Graham's gimmick.

He lives in Mexico to avoid taxation, great American hero.






[edit on 29-7-2008 by wrathchild]

reply to post by wrathchild

Truthfully it takes guts to speak out against our corrupt Government.
I believe Jesse Ventura speaks the truth about 911.
I could care less where he lives it dosent change a thing.

If you dont believe Jesse Ventura that is your right.

I hope to burst everyone's bubble, but i've read alot of threads on this site and this is the first time post I've ever put up a reply. However, I too am tired of hearing of all this nonsense that steel can't melt from jet fuel and that the buildings on 911 came down by demo.

Here in San Francisco about a year ago, there was an accident. A fuel truck was going too fast and the driver lost control of the truck and it hit the guard rail and the tanks ruptured. The fire that was started was so hot, it melted the steel I beams that supported the highway overpass above it. Now this was an instance where the heat was being radiated in all directions and yet the heat from 20 feet above the fire melted the steel. Now I'm not talking about just any I beam. The steel that melted was extremely thick. Probably alot more thick than the I beams that supported the twin towers. I've seen footage of the support I beam from the first bombing in the basement.

To conclude, the steel melted from standard liquid gasoline. San Francisco is a cool place all the time. It was on a cool evening. The steel above a fire 20 feet or more below melted. I"m not sure if the fire in the trade center was as intense, but if there was a flow of air through any particular path inside that building, feeding the fire with oxygen, then wouldn't that have the same effect as a blow torch?

Also, if the purpose was to destroy buildings......wouldn't they have followed the plan of the first attempted bombing. If it was a demo, couldn't have they just collapsed the buildings into the ones they wanted destroyed. Make some sense. A countdown? Give me a break, who does a countdown for a secret controlled demo. Also, the post that asked for credentials was right. Who are the experts and what can they show that hasn't already been shown?

I like to think of conspiracies too but lets please use some logic because these threads are always more interesting when there is real thought and logic backign everyone's stance. Don't name people who can't be named by name or title. Might as well say Colonel Mustard with a grenade in teh buildings.

A quick question,if building 7 was brought down by demolition then why didn't they bring it down when tower 1 and 2 came down(or just after) to make it look like the towers brought down building 7?

I'm just curious and I have to admit watching the video of the collapse of building 7 it does look "to me" like it was demolished.

I like Jesse Ventura, I can't see him coming forward like this if he didn't really believe what he was saying,just listen to the interview on Howard stern they are pretty much holding there laughter in trying not to laugh at him....why would anyone put themselves through that.

IMO I think Jesse Ventura would be the perfect candidate to spearhead a new 9/11 investigation,he seems like a straight shooter and if it turns out it was a terrorist attack like our government tells us he would probably be the first to admit he was wrong.

reply to post by thecry


That is absolutley right, Jesse has more to lose than gain from this. That in itself tells me what he is saying holds more truth than lies. Regardless of his past occupation.

The fact is those who believe the official report will most likely always believe it. Let me give you an example. My father inlaw who spent 22 years in the navy, I was telling him the possability of 9/11 being an inside job. He quickly said that there is no way it happened and terrorist where the ones who pulled it off. After an hour of argument, I asked him has he ever even looked into any of these claims, He says no. Then he tells me put all these things on video for him so he could see for himself.

I told him all he had to do was go online and look for himself. He said he didnt have time for all of that.

So my point is, Without looking into these claims he is willing to defend the official report without question. So many people do this and thats why You will never convince them.

But back on topic, I believe ventura is making these claims not just because he believes them, but also because he has seen all that can be looked at and came to an educated decision. I say educated because in my opinion after looking at all thats out there you would be a fool to believe terrorist pulled this off and that 3 buildings fell all within a very short period of time. And there is no point in getting into all the points of why in this thread. All you have to do is go debate all of this in the numerous threads that already exist.



[edit on 30-7-2008 by russ1969]

reply to post by ThroatYogurt


So you are going to blindly believe the government?
The same government that gave a list of hijackers that supposedly flew the planes on 9/11 and a good percentage of the names on the list were still in the middle east leading productive lives? Don't go asking for credentials when the official story is based on a steaming pile of decomposing matter.

reply to post by PhreshIDea


That's a good argument you have there. A bridge isn't all I-beams though, it's a lot of rebar and concrete too. I seriously doubt any I-beams melted or got heated soft point. Hell you can bend rebar with your bare hands. In 911 they are saying that jet fuel temps 1796F melted steel at 2500-2750F. To melt steel you need them high temps over a sustained time period. I-beams are also connected to other I-beams. So the physics behind thermal conductance doesn't add up. It would be very hard to heat and melt one part of a I-beam because it's connected to others. The cold side disapates heat faster then the hot side heats up.

I'm going to preface this post by saying... yes... this is my first post... but I have been reading ATS anonymously for quite some time...

I have a master's degree in engineering... I have some semblance of an idea of what is possible in the realm of structural mechanics.... and let me tell you... there is no possible way that the twin towers... let alone bldg. 7... fell in the manner that the government would have you believe. It just cannot happen.

I have looked at the blueprints of how the towers were constructed... it's possible they could have fallen due to some structural problem that was not anticipated... however... never in the fashion that was demonstrated in the multiple videos of the way it actually happened. I would generally point to the way that a tree falls when it's chopped at by an axe.... it doesn't fall straight down, it falls over... that's what would have happened if there was a legitimate structural failure.

I guess it just enhances my favourite saying... "Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes"

Always so many debunkers and disinformation agents in 9/11 threads.
Its getting so obvious its funny
Always the same people spreading the duality among such threads.

I for one cant even understand why people still have doubts about 9/11, If u would just research the subject even for a little bit u wil see the truth.

9/11 was an inside job and the truth is KNOWN. The skeptic either has an agenda or is just not rdy to accept the truth.

Only trust yourself and believe in YOUR capability too see truth, dont listen to these people like Throatyoghurt and some others here, they have an agenda and its not even worth going into debate with them.

Stern is hardly MEET THE PRESS. Jesse is nuts, and his word means nothing to most of us living in reality.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Leapass

 

First off those buildings didnt free fall. You can see debris falling faster then the building itself. Second there was extensive damage on building 7. www.911myths.com... My advice is do your own research. It took me 2 minutes to find there was indeed a extreme amount of damage and fires in building 7 that day.
from tide88

hahahaha that funny... i've done my own research actually and not only found that it was an inside job... but also that anyone with a half working brain can see (even if they werent demolished which is HIGHLY unlikley) that it was an inside job.. so even if they weren't pulled then it was stilll an inside job... how can you possible think its not?? LAUGHABLE

im dont with this thread.. I dont know why i've wasted so much time on it.. see I know im a pretty smart person.. and the factual evidence.. not SPECULATIVE theories.. tell me that it has been planned for years.. and at the very least let it happen... isn't that bad enough? seriously WAKE UP people your embarrassing yourselves pushin this crap that 9/11 happened the way the gov wants us to think it happened... this is so obvious its beyond annoying..

mark my words.. this issue alone will bring war to the United States.. how could it not? no one will ever agree.. and maybe that was there plan all along