Former Navy SEAL and demolitions expert Jesse Ventura: U.S. Government Carried Out 9/11

Originally posted by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
Stern is hardly MEET THE PRESS.

Jesse is nuts, and his word means nothing to most of us living in reality.

He was also the Governor of Minnesota and a lot of people have respect for him.I would take his word over 90% of the politicians in this country.

And might I add I think he would make a good president.

this has probably been covered a zillion times in other threads..... I don't buy into a lot of the 9/11 "inside job" theories, but I do think that a LOT was covered up in the aftermath. Records from the flights, wreckage material, transcripts from the various government agencies that should have been held accountable for breach, NYPD and NYFD testimonies, and the debris from the towers, flight 93, and the Pentagon. It all seemed to disappear quite rapidly after the fact.

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


Didn't the owner of the WTC complex, can't remember his name now, admit on camera that WTC 7 had been demolished, on his order, due to it's structural damages?

I think I saw that somewhere, but can't remember the source...any help?

Originally posted by Enuma Elish
Always so many debunkers and disinformation agents in 9/11 threads.
Its getting so obvious its funny

Always the same people spreading the duality among such threads.

I for one cant even understand why people still have doubts about 9/11, If u would just research the subject even for a little bit u wil see the truth.

9/11 was an inside job and the truth is KNOWN. The skeptic either has an agenda or is just not rdy to accept the truth.

You've noticed? Of course the truth is known to many people. 9/11 was not only an inside job, but an obvious one, with a mountain of anomalies, cover-ups, obstruction and silence, such as the White House's attempts to avoid an official investigation, their refusal to release any Pentagon videos or photos, the lies about Flight 93 not being shot down, the 'dancing Israelis' who were caught with a van full of explosives but still released and who admitted on Israeli TV that they were sent to "document the event" and NIST's inability to determine what caused WTC7 to collapse (one of their current "theories" is a "demolition event!") It only takes a modest amount of independent research to figure out what really happened.

But the stakes are high on this one -- can't have anyone believe their government is this evil (even though they've admitted Operation Northwoods, a very similar plan) -- so the professional pseudo-skeptics are out in force.

Originally posted by NorthWolfe CND
reply to post by Anonymous ATS

 

Didn't the owner of the WTC complex, can't remember his name now, admit on camera that WTC 7 had been demolished, on his order, due to it's structural damages?

I think I saw that somewhere, but can't remember the source...any help?

Yep, you're thinking of Larry "Pull It" Silverstein who admitted WTC7's controlled demolition on PBS:

Larry Silverstein, WTC 7,
and the 9/11 Demolition

www.whatreallyhappened.com...

reply to post by GoldenFleece


Jesse Ventura is about as credible as Howard Stern. He knows as much about demolishing a huge building as I do, maybe less...
He's also a coward who said he would ran for President, on an independent platform, and then backed off because he knew almost nobody would vote for him, better, on Larry King Live he said he couldn't raise the cash to run for President...

As for the Demolition Theory, excluding WTC 7, there are only a handful of companies capable of such a task, on such a huge structure...You would only have to find out where they were working in the week leading to 9/11...

I can tell you that these teams are trained in taking out buildings.Bridges and among other things.

And to do that you need some engineer skills. Thats just common sense. A team of navy seals could bring down the Towers if that was the objective. They just need time and proper training. Some times when a target is aside from what is usuall, you often bring in someone who can give you some help on research. Then you spend a lot of time practicing.

When the knowlage is there on have to use the eksplosives needed to do the job. You work on preparations and planing. That to is just common sense.

Nothing is Impossible. And thats the saying these type of people have.

[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

Originally posted by NorthWolfe CND
reply to post by GoldenFleece

 

As for the Demolition Theory, excluding WTC 7, there are only a handful of companies capable of such a task, on such a huge structure...You would only have to find out where they were working in the week leading to 9/11...

i do not understand this idea that if there were explosives that they had to have been planted in a debunkers given time frame, ie the week leading up to 9/11. who is to say when explosives would have or could have been planted. i keep seeing this argument put forth, and with a different time frame each time and i would just like to know if anyone can explain just how they come up with the time in which they think explosives would have had to have been planted and couldnt have been in that time so its not true?

Didn't Laura Ingraham already tackle the Jesse issue and 9/11 with her latest book?





I kid, I kid.

I don't know why Jesse feels he needs to push this subject to the forefront of his agenda, but he's a little late in catching on to the conspiracy and acting like its brand new. I really don't need Jesse to tell me something was fishy about the whole attack but I'm glad he's throwing himself out there. He doesn't have the clout to really make anything happen and certainly because he says it was demolition doesn't mean much but hey...one more impotent voice couldn't hurt.

John Kerry said the same thing a few years back when some Truther confronted him. That he knew personally that they demolished WTC7?. Anyone see that on Youtube?

The implication would then be that the building was rigged prior and that people were ACTUALLY inside of a building set to blow. No way they set that building for demo in the span of a few hours.

I believe it is what happened.

- Lee

Originally posted by re22666

Originally posted by NorthWolfe CND
reply to post by GoldenFleece

 

As for the Demolition Theory, excluding WTC 7, there are only a handful of companies capable of such a task, on such a huge structure...You would only have to find out where they were working in the week leading to 9/11...

i do not understand this idea that if there were explosives that they had to have been planted in a debunkers given time frame, ie the week leading up to 9/11. who is to say when explosives would have or could have been planted. i keep seeing this argument put forth, and with a different time frame each time and i would just like to know if anyone can explain just how they come up with the time in which they think explosives would have had to have been planted and couldnt have been in that time so its not true?

Well if it was done by some army unit. I would bet that a time frame to do this type of job would take 12 to 24 months or more. One year with gathering info and training. And one year to put it all in place. Time is not a factor unless it has to be done together with other pland operation or events.

Its not impossibel that a unit like the navy seals worked and did Demolition jobs with experts as a preparation. Who knows!

[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by re22666

Originally posted by NorthWolfe CND
reply to post by GoldenFleece

 

As for the Demolition Theory, excluding WTC 7, there are only a handful of companies capable of such a task, on such a huge structure...You would only have to find out where they were working in the week leading to 9/11...

i do not understand this idea that if there were explosives that they had to have been planted in a debunkers given time frame, ie the week leading up to 9/11. who is to say when explosives would have or could have been planted. i keep seeing this argument put forth, and with a different time frame each time and i would just like to know if anyone can explain just how they come up with the time in which they think explosives would have had to have been planted and couldnt have been in that time so its not true?

Well if it was done by some army unit. I would bet that a time frame to do this type of job would take 12 to 24 months or more.

It was most likely done by Mossad, the world's demolition experts. One group of Mossad operatives (the famous 'dancing Israelis') were arrested on 9/11 near the George Washington Bridge driving a van loaded with "tons of explosives." Another group was arrested in a van that police dogs alerted on for explosive residue:

The Five Dancing Israelis
Arrested On 9-11

www.whatreallyhappened.com...

this man can save us all so pay him respect and listen to what he says hes not stupid like some on this site

I see a few people here trying to discredit JV saying he wasn't a SEAL based on ONE web site. I spent the last hour looking at dozens of sites concerning JV and his biography and they ALL say he was a SEAL except the one posted in this thread. Even Wiki says it and they will not do anything to upset TPTB. I could find only one site that says he wasn't a SEAL.

Also this from Wiki:

Ventura always mentioned how much he respected his SEAL instructor Master Chief Petty Officer Terry "Mother" Moy. He asked Moy to stand by his side when he was sworn in as governor. He ended his inaugural address with the SEAL war cry "HOOYAH!"

Why would a SEAL instructor stand at this ceremony knowing he was not a SEAL?

Originally posted by spookjr
reply to post by GoldenFleece

 

I have a few question for anyone/everyone.
1. Explosives like C-4, Semtex,PETN and ANFO, leave easily identifiable chemical residue. Did no one ever test any of the debris for these chemicals? The chemical fingerprints would have been relatively easy to find, like at Oklahoma City.
2. Controlled demolition on buildings the size of the Twin Towers requires months of preparation. Steel supporting structures must be cut partially with acetylene/oxygen torches ALL OVER THE PLACE. Did anyone find evidence of this?
3. Was anyone killed when Bldg. 7 come down? I have not been able to find out.

No one did have the time to investigate the ruins and the debris since your government packed it all up under military protection and shipped all debris of to either get dumped into the water and the metal sold to China. Your government actually committed a felony when they started to remove evidence from a crime scene.

Best regards

Loke.

reply to post by GoldenFleece


Nice finde

Yes sometimes the turth can be far out,and to hard to believe. When it is involving people and goverment one should trust.



[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

The first thing that cought my atention after seeing the towers collaps a few times on TV. Was have unnatural the collaps was. Its sort of works against youre common sense. To my common sense the top of the towers should breack off and fall to one of the sides. It shouldent have gone stright down if the damage and fire of the airliners where the cause.

Originally posted by Loke.

Originally posted by spookjr
reply to post by GoldenFleece

 

I have a few question for anyone/everyone.
1. Explosives like C-4, Semtex,PETN and ANFO, leave easily identifiable chemical residue. Did no one ever test any of the debris for these chemicals? The chemical fingerprints would have been relatively easy to find, like at Oklahoma City.
2. Controlled demolition on buildings the size of the Twin Towers requires months of preparation. Steel supporting structures must be cut partially with acetylene/oxygen torches ALL OVER THE PLACE. Did anyone find evidence of this?
3. Was anyone killed when Bldg. 7 come down? I have not been able to find out.

No one did have the time to investigate the ruins and the debris since your government packed it all up under military protection and shipped all debris of to either get dumped into the water and the metal sold to China. Your government actually committed a felony when they started to remove evidence from a crime scene.

Best regards

Loke.

Yeah thats an other funny subject. What real evidence have we seen from the Goverment. This investigation went faster than a normal robery would take.

[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

All of you should read Jim Marrs book.

The Terror Conspiracy: Deception, 9/11 and the Loss of Liberty

Jim Marrs is dead on from how I understood the event, before having read his book.

I bet 100% Jesse Ventura would agree with him.

If Jesse comes back on the ATS Mix show, I'm going to ask him if he's read Jim Marrs book.

Jesse Ventura on the ATS Mix :

ATS.MIX: Jesse Ventura UNCENSORED - ATS MIX Show 82

He answered the question I asked about Blackwater being in Iraq, about halfway through.

I've got a thread here on Jim Marrs book :

The Terror Conspiracy : Deception, 9/11, and the Loss of Liberty

Jim Marrs is on ATS here :

The View From Marrs : Jim Marrs


[edit on 30-7-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

Originally posted by Seymour Butz

Originally posted by dariousg
We can't accept blindly the statements of anybody anymore because of all of the suspicians that have been thrown on everything.

And yet, when a guy with some demo experience says what you all want to hear, there is no questioning it at all.

And no answers at all as to whather or not he has the experience in demo'ing buildings like this, nor if he has any knowledge at all of the subject.

This is just a pathetic appeal to authority fallacy. Expertise must be shown before his word should be taken as anything meaningful.

Wrong! That is not what we are doing. Well, at least not what I am doing. It is simply displaying the fact that THERE ARE QUESTIONS that haven't been answered.

It's not just Jesse that has come forward with these questions. There have been THOUSANDS of highly respected engineers and such that have 'questions'. It doesn't mean that they believe the government had something to do with it but they at least have questions. Very reasonable ones too.

As I stated before, I have seen 'DEMO' experts come down on both sides of this debate. Some stated that yes, it was demo that brought WTC7 down. No doubt. Then others stating that it 'COULD' have been caused by the fires and structural damage. Not that it 'WAS' caused by this. Only a very finite few have gone so far as to say that.

So, with the track record of the people running this administration and their ability to lie and hide behind 'national security' I would say that having questions about that day is justified.

Originally posted by spookjr
reply to post by ThroatYogurt

 

WHAT???!!! NO STEEL WAS RECOVERED FOR FORENSIC EXAMINATION?
That is crazy. That fact alone should be cause for a million questions.
Did you mean Nano-Thermite? If so that substance would easily cut through steel. Also if that was the case then that also is cause for serious questions as it is not easily obtainable by just anyone, but the U.S. military uses it quite often......hmmmm. Also a collapse zone is ALWAYS established during a controlled demo procedure. Why have one at all if there was no visible damage to the building, aside from the obvious of course. And finally cutting charges would explain the lack of the tell-tale signs of steel cutting prep. as the charges would facilitate that quite nicely, but would have taken considerable time to place.


[edit on 29-7-2008 by spookjr]

Seeing that you are new to the site. Or at least 'spookjr' is, I would suggest searching through the MANY threads on this subject. Not to say you aren't educated on this subject, just saying that there is a lot of great debate (once you weed through the slams and degrading remarks).

Yes, the fact that none of the steel from WTC7 was made available not only to NIST but to any other investigative entity raises a lot of questions. Also, the small amount of steel that was made available for investigation for the towers was indeed small. Only a few tons. Yeah, that could be 6,000 lbs of steel and many would think that is a LOT. Well, take into perspective the amount of steel in just one of the towers and that few tons turns into a speck.